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Edmunds "We Drive the 580 Horsepower M5 Killer"....Audi's RS6

GermanNut submitted on 01/30/2008 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 10:46 PM
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Edmunds "We Drive the 580 Horsepower M5 Killer"....Audi's RS6

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528i - 1/30/2008 11:24:51 PMView My AgentSpace

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I Posted this article two day's ago. what happend??

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A4ORCE - 1/31/2008 2:50:22 AM

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You gots robbed... :(

528i - 1/31/2008 3:20:17 AMView My AgentSpace

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I think you have to be an Audi fanboy to that.

pacotacolol - 1/31/2008 3:45:09 PM

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are they acually talking about the caddilac cts-v?

GermanNut - 1/30/2008 11:41:04 PM

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Audi claims 8:09 for the Nurburgring. The BMW M5's official time is 8:05 done by SportAuto.

Look for the Audi to match or even defeat the mighty M5 on the best track in the world.


Audi's 40:60 rear biased quattro is really paying dividends as seen by the RS4, the R8 and now the RS6.




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S4cabriofoxone - 1/30/2008 11:56:21 PMView My AgentSpace

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The RS6 is a wagon, the M5 is a sedan...

Wait for the RS6 sedan to be released. WOW.

Heyhuub - 1/31/2008 2:46:55 AM

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Sport Auto did 8:13 with the M5 Sedan officialy. Check the Sport Auto site, it was the M3 coupe which did a 8:05.
THe M6 coupe did a 8:09 by SPort Auto.

Talli - 1/30/2008 11:54:24 PM

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my god!! i've always hated wagons, even the M5 wagon, but this way over the top! cant wait to see the sedan. thats gonna kill the competition, by a fair margin.

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/30/2008 11:56:55 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yeah, I want this, so bad. The Avant is so much cooler than the sedan, and so sexy from the rear.

I can't say I would be unhappy with the sedan, however. (-;

1995e34 - 1/31/2008 12:13:04 AM

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i want one with wood paneling, and plaid interior.

1995e34 - 1/31/2008 1:35:19 PM

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i've recently become obsessed with that plaid vw interior. it's way classier than any of that louis vitton custom pimp my ride crap.

GermanNut - 1/31/2008 12:15:21 AM

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By the way, the sedan will also pack the same 580 horsepower twin-turbo V10 and come with aluminum fenders and an aluminum hood. The only difference is weight.

The RS6 Sedan will weigh 132 pounds LIGHTER than the RS6 Avant tested here. If this RS6 Avant can pull 4 seconds from 0-60 look for the Sedan to comfortably hit 3.6-3.7 seconds.




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qweasdzxc - 1/31/2008 2:10:49 AM

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With an obese weight of 4300 lb and AWD system of last century he expect it to be as fast as NISSAN GT-R?

Thank you for telling joke of the day.

Heyhuub - 1/31/2008 2:49:32 AM

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Yeah, because the Nissan GT-R is like sooo light.
The R8 is already been capable of clocking 0-60 in 4.0 seconds, this will be even faster in a straight line.

Quit talking rubbish.

pushrod27 - 1/31/2008 10:12:58 AM

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The GTR is not lightweight.

kablaam - 2/1/2008 6:26:29 AM

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132 lbs = .3-.4 secs off 0-60?...that may be pushing it.

Lexus - 1/31/2008 1:08:20 AM

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Congratulation to Audi for another outstanding achievement. I thought it would had a much faster time from 0-62 mph, but it got 4.6s. With 580hp under the hood, I expected more.

But still a Great achievement to Audi!

Lexus

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/31/2008 5:54:04 PMView My AgentSpace

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Uh, that's Audi's time. As usual, Audi underestimated. It will be something like 4 seconds flat, for 0-100km/h, in the wagon. For 0-60mph in the sedan, expect sub-4 sec times.

BozzorTheGreat - 1/31/2008 1:53:55 AM

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Audi - and indeed all the Germans - are very conservative when it comes to acceleration numbers. This is because they use real world conditions.

Some manufacturers quote 0-60 mph (or 0-100 km/h) times using the most favourable conditions possible i.e. driver only (and often some svelte gentleman who weighs less than 150 lbs), perhaps 1/4 fuel tank full and no luggage, along with ideal road surface grip and temperature conditions.

The Germans, however, are more realistic. Usually their acceleration times use both a driver and passenger (both of whom are often obviously lovers of beer and bratwurst), always a full fuel tank and sometimes some luggage.

Rest assured, if you take any German car away alone and are notr carrying any excess cargo, you will pretty much always beat the quoted numbers.

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Rupert - 1/31/2008 12:36:42 PMView My AgentSpace

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I think in the EU 0-62 times (0-100 km/h) are done with driver, passenger, 8-ish kilos of luggage and fuel tank 3/4 full.

validus00 - 1/31/2008 2:53:17 AM

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Not once in the article did Edmunds compare the rs6 to its competitors nor did they label the wagon as a m5 killer so don't quote it as such or make it seem like Edmonds already made any comparisons. It also doesn't say how fast the car is under acceleration, so any numbers like "under 4 seconds" would be premature.

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/31/2008 5:56:36 PMView My AgentSpace

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The title of the article itself says "M5 killer."

kablaam - 2/1/2008 9:41:26 AM

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The Original Edmunds Article has no reference to the RS6 as an "M5 Killer" but autospies does, I guess it adds a pinch of dramatic effect.

You've got a NA V10 @ 500HP vs FI V10 @ 580HP.
4012lbs(BMW)8.02lb/HP vs 4332(AUDI 4DSD)7.47lb/HP.

Then again you have more torque on the Audi but will they use their DSG?

BMW will have at least the 7 speed SMG(and traditional manual)...maybe even their Dual Clutch system by next model year??

I will love to see the comparisons between the two.

The consumer will ultimately win the battle, competition is great. I would love to see M and AMG's answer to this monster.

Chip - 1/31/2008 3:39:40 AM

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Those are incredible numbers and this is one hell of an engine.

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farabira1 - 1/31/2008 5:18:28 AM

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Great for a sport wagon. But am waiting for the RS6 sedan. That would be a killer.

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GermanNut - 1/31/2008 7:13:32 AM

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Validus it says right under the headline "We Drive the 580 Horsepower M5 Killer"

What else constitutes a comparison??

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validus00 - 1/31/2008 7:29:17 AM

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i checked everywhere in that article and their homepage - nothing. they've made references to m5 and e63, but nowhere does it state that the rs6 is an actual m5 killer nor does it make any comparison between the three.

spiritfilled - 1/31/2008 8:33:46 AM

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I'm sure it also "kills" the M5 in price. You get what you pay for, hopefully.

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vman1013 - 1/31/2008 9:12:04 AM

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This Audi looks boring! And I'm no huge fan of the 5-Series but it was a transformative design compared to the previous generation.

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SHOWTIME - 1/31/2008 10:00:44 AM

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Nice Car

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amazinBimmer - 1/31/2008 10:31:25 AM

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580Hp with ceramic brakes and gets smacked by an M5 on the ring.. as sual, the front weehl drive engineered, heavy slob has the moves of a walrus in despair. Keep trying.. whay release this car as a Hatchback?// Oh wait!!! it should be a "limited model" ..only to hide from the faster, much more adept M upgrade launched in 09.
audi, you are a joke. Germanut.. tell me Im wrong, you underachieving moron!

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Heyhuub - 1/31/2008 11:34:30 AM

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The M5 sedan did 8:13 on the ring.

In this case the M6 which did 8:09, the most expensive car BMW produces can't do better then an Audi station wagon.

VISO - 1/31/2008 3:15:17 PM

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Loser Again!

S4cabriofoxone - 1/31/2008 5:58:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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And not only that... but it's a BMW COUPE. A COUPE got beaten by a wagon.

I actually saw a bumper sticker on a Subaru WRX hatch that said "You just got beat by a wagon." That's funny. I would want it on this RS6.

Well, actually, I wouldn't. No diluting of this car's stunning design.

Htay7500 - 2/1/2008 8:18:28 PM

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actually, lots of subie wagon owners have that on. pretty neat, since subie wgns are pretty awsome with performance mods.

amazinBimmer - 1/31/2008 10:41:20 AM

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and where does th e"killer "thing come in.. not mentioned anywhere int he article. It may be lodged in the Nut's 12 year old communicty college trained brain. Drive?

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VISO - 1/31/2008 3:14:54 PM

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Loser!

opfreak - 1/31/2008 11:21:27 AM

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autospies is close to getting sued. Edmunds said much less then this headline states

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answer - 1/31/2008 12:10:17 PM

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Enough with the "killer" monicker!!!!!!

By "killing" another car you'd have to impact its sales so severely that they'd cease production of it.

The Audi would have to be so amazingly good, and so amazingly cheap (think $10,000) to make buyers no longer have any desire for an M5.

RS6 is cool. M5 is cool. But the constant "killer" crap just starts silly/pointless/repetitive debates.

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amazinBimmer - 1/31/2008 12:56:54 PM

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op and answer.. just look which idiot posted this...he is a used toyota salesman who could own a wheel of an M5 someday.

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VISO - 1/31/2008 3:15:43 PM

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More Loser!

ILikeLambo - 2/1/2008 2:26:35 AM

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VISO, SHUT UP!!, we heard you the first time

GermanNut - 1/31/2008 2:16:45 PM

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I love it the BMW M5 is getting smacked on the ring by the Audi RS6 AVANT!!!!!

An Audi station wagon can lap the Nurburgring faster than the BMW M5 SEDAN.

BMW is in the LOSER's seat AGAIN!!!!!

For all of you that were wondering where that "KILLER" moniker came from.......It was CLEARLY stated on Edmunds Insideline homepage (insideline.com) two days ago when the article first appeared.

Clearly under the headline that says We Drive Audi's RS6 it stated

"We Drive the 580 horsepower M5 Killer"

Send an email to the people at Edmunds if you don't believe me.

Anyway, it looks like the BMW M5 will get smoked in the straights by the RS6, as will the E63 AMG but the RS6 is also going to smoke the M5 around the Nurburgring.

That is what huge torque, huge horsepower and Quattro AWD are all about.

GO AUDI!!!!!

If you don't believe me then ask 528i who posted the same article 2 days ago but for whatever reason, it was never posted.

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GermanNut - 1/31/2008 2:21:41 PM

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Audi is working its RS magic yet again.

BMW is put straight back in second place again.

Just like the E46 M3 was handed the RS4's tailights the BMW M5 SEDAN will not even be faster than the Audi RS6 AVANT. The 132 pound lighter RS6 sedan will make that straight-line acceleration advantage even bigger.

The RS6 sedan will be able to lap the Nurburgring very very close to the 8 minute flat mark. Considering Audi quoted the RS6 Avant at 8:09 which is usually conservative, SportAuto should be able to get 8:05.

The RS6 Sedan is going to DESTROY the BMW M5 in comparison tests.

I can't wait....

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Threepoint1415926 - 1/31/2008 2:26:20 PM

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Oooo!!! Look at all the pretty pictures. Me like!

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amazinBimmer - 1/31/2008 3:18:28 PM

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i think german is fit to be tied. too bad he wont tell us what (piece of shit) he drives.

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/31/2008 6:04:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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I don't think you've posted this much hate in any single Audi article before.

Insecure, huh?

VISO - 1/31/2008 7:01:40 PM

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Super Loser!

ILikeLambo - 2/1/2008 2:28:56 AM

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shut up VISO you little fanboy

GermanNut - 1/31/2008 3:29:55 PM

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Audi RS6 AVANT Nurburgring Lap Time: 8:09

BMW M5 SEDAN Nurburgring Lap Time: 8:13

= Audi RS6 Avant can lap the Ring faster than the BMW M5 Sedan

Audi RS6 SEDAN Nurburgring Lap Time: Surely better than 8:09

....due to 132 pound lighter weight with same exact engine and output ratings

= Audi RS6 SEDAN will SMASH the BMW M5 Sedan at the Ring.

I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

"We Drive the 580 horsepower M5 Killer"

The guys at Edmunds are definitely correct....The Audi RS6 AVANT is clearly an M5 killer

What now amazinidiot!!!!

Please respond with something on topic to the performance of the BMW M5 SEDAN versus the Audi RS6 AVANT.

I think amazinIdiot is fit to be banned....





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tattedtwice - 2/1/2008 9:38:18 AM

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So, 80 more HP, almost 100 l/f torque, bigger tires and wheels and rear-biased AWD gets it around the 'ring only 4 seconds faster? And you're creamin' your shorts over that?

Guess some people are easily impressed.

Star - 1/31/2008 4:03:05 PM

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From Edmund's article:

" The car was quick — darn quick — but NOT A GREAT DEAL OF FUN away from a wide, multilane highway."/

So another snoozer from Audi made into something is not by the Audi FANBOI no 1 "GermanNut" who has the nerve to post a commentary based on things that were never said in the Edmunds article. Nowhere in the article is says that this car is FASTER than the M5 or the AMG Mercedes. Why?. Because is not. Nowhere is says that this car kills BMW M or the AMG Mercedes because is not. GermanNut is the ONLY one that claims this car is a killer. Of what, bugs on the highway? STOP LYING GermanNut. Stop making up things, claiming you got them from articles like Edmund's. LIAR!!!!Ban the liar!

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/31/2008 6:03:47 PMView My AgentSpace

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It's more fun than any other wagon you can buy, period.

Wait for the sedan if you want a real performance car.

carE10 - 1/31/2008 6:54:44 PM

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"It's more fun than any other wagon you can buy, period."
Thats a pretty hollow statement S4, considering you have no idea how it drives. dynamically the m5 is the cream of the crop.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=993248131938476021&q=bmw+m5+touring&total=176&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

carE10 - 1/31/2008 6:57:13 PM

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid
=993248131938476021&q=bmw+m5+touring&total

VISO - 1/31/2008 7:12:28 PM

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Hey Star, get your fact correct before you quote from the article. Your stated reference:

" The car was quick — darn quick — but NOT A GREAT DEAL OF FUN away from a wide, multilane highway."/

You took this out of context so as to make it look you are referencing the new RS6. This implied statement was referring to the old RS6 (though BS on Edmunds part) and not the new RS6. I suggesst you re-read the article or stop twisting the truth.

Edmunds.com goes to state regarding the new RS6 Avant:

"Though it feels more at home in a straight line, it also manages to devour twisting roads with an impressive turn of speed. The tires grip well beyond what is safely achievable on the road, and the suspension boasts the sort of hardware that allows you to not only control the ride quality in three distinct levels — Comfort, Dynamic and Sport — but also ensure body movements are always well in check as you throw the car into a corner.

The four-wheel-drive system has been reworked to provide a nominal 40 percent front/60 percent rear torque split. It ensures massive purchase, yet the car handles with neutral poise even at high cornering speeds. The steering is quick at 2.2 turns lock to lock and it has more on-center feel than the S6's steering thanks to a revised hydraulic pump. The brakes are beyond reproach, and they still feel strong even after being hammered lap after lap on a racetrack."

I think this says the RS6 Avant is quite fun other than just straight-line.

You anti-Audi people are a crack-up to the lengths you try to put Audi down to make your little precious BMW look good. That's pretty sad if you have to resort to that type of arguments.

GermanNut - 1/31/2008 6:25:41 PM

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Lying?? How so?

The Audi RS6 Avant is faster in a straight-line than the Audi R8.

The Audi R8 is faster in a straight-line than both the BMW M5 and Mercedes E63 AMG.

Therefore the Audi RS6 must be faster than the BMW M5 and Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG in a straight-line also.

I told you once before Star, if you don't believe me that Edmunds wrote "We drive the 580 horsepow M5 killer" send an email to Edmunds asking them to show you and they gladly will.

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validus00 - 2/1/2008 4:40:10 AM

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because no one will actually do email them.

why would edmunds proclaim the rs6 a "m5 killer" without any side by side comparisons?

even if they did retract their statement, it only means they've realized their claim is optimistic, unfounded and premature.

the fact is that they're not labeling the rs6 any sort of m5 killer just yet.

VISO - 1/31/2008 10:17:22 PM

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Wow! Deboosting me doesn't change the facts. How low class can you get! How pathetic you Bimmer and MB people are.

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amazinBimmer - 1/31/2008 11:05:03 PM

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german .. WHAT DO YOU DRIVE>>>>????? silly underachiever, car salesman. Worse than slime on any given day...

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GermanNut - 1/31/2008 11:09:47 PM

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AmazinIdiot WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW ThAT THE AUDI RS6 is not only faster in a straight line but also around the most famous race-track in the world compared to your BMW M5.

The Audi R8 has won Car of the Year Awards on at least 5 different occasions

Audi is going to break 1 million sales worldwide while notching its 13th consecutive record sales year

Audi has a product blitz as we speak with the new Q5, R8 V10, Q3, A1 and A7 coming up by the end of 2010.

You will be seeing more never before seen Audis than you have ever before

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amazinBimmer - 2/1/2008 10:38:50 AM

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GermanMoron... check the BMW pipeline. better cars, better engineered and way better styling. AND WAY more desireable. Audi is losing. Big time. At least to BMW.

again, you mental midget.. "WHAT DO YOU DRIVE?". Do you even understand english??

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GermanNut - 2/1/2008 11:26:38 AM

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Check the pipelin??? I don't have to because with 1.5 million sales worldwide for just the Audi brand (only the cars with the 4 rings on the them) they will surpass the BMW brand (just the cars with the blue and white propeller logo on them) by 20115.

Yes, BMW GROUP may sell 1.5 million units worldwide right now but that inludes the Mini and Rolls-Royce brands in addition to the BMW brand.

Audi is going to give BMW all it can handle and them some as it takes the top spot for global worldwide sales in 2015.

SIMPLE AS THAT.

What will drive this success will be Audi's excellent engineering, design, marketing, and new product development that will leave BMW struggling to release as many new models as Audi.

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Htay7500 - 2/1/2008 10:31:08 PM

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^^^you two need a chill pill before you start throwing another fit at each other.

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