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European Based (The Which?) Car Magazine Says: Japanese cars Honda, Toyota, Daihatsu are most reliable
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European Based (The Which?) Car Magazine Says: Japanese cars Honda, Toyota, Daihatsu are most reliable
Japanese car manufacturers have enhanced their already formidable reputation for first class engineering by leading a reliability league table drawn up in one of the UK's most detailed motoring surveys.
Honda was the winning manufacturer in the survey
Cars made by Japanese companies comfortably outperformed British models when it came to dependability, according to the survey carried out by Which? Car magazine.
UK-based cars performed poorly with Land Rover coming joint bottom of the table with America's Crysler Dodge.
Japanese manufacturers took the first seven places in a reliability table of 38 brands compiled by the magazine.
Honda was the winning manufacturer, according to the study of 89,768 cars, which were up to eight years old.
Statistical analysis was used to calculate a Brand Reliability Index percentage based on readers' reports of total breakdowns, faults that required a vehicle to be taken to a garage and minor niggles.
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Break-downs were weighted more heavily than niggles. Honda achieved 85 per cent followed by Toyota, Daihatsu, Lexus, Mazda, Subaru and Suzuki.
The Korean Hyundai brand was the first to make inroads into Japanese domination, scoring 80 per cent.
The table was divided into reliability categories ranging from the best "very good" through "good", "average" and "poor" with the least reliable being described as "very poor".
Eight of the top ten most reliable brands were from Japan. The seven manufacturers in the "very good" category were all Japanese.
Only Hyundai and Porsche from Germany made it into the "good" category.
In contrast, British manufacturers were at the bottom of the table, with Rover (70 per cent "very poor") and MG (73 per cent "very poor"), brands that are no longer in production, and Vauxhall (75 per cent "poor") joining Land Rover (67 per cent "very poor") towards the bottom of the list.
Of the UK-based companies, only Mini (78 per cent) and Jaguar reached the average figure.
Despite Japan's overall success in the manufacturers', there was a blip in Honda's record with the firm's Civic model - made in Swindon, Wiltshire - which was in joint-bottom spot in the individual models' list.
Richard Headland, the Which? Car' editor, said: "Japan continues to show the rest of the world how to make consistently reliable cars, although the new Honda Civic shows they're not infallible. Some British-built cars, on the other hand, don't exactly run like clockwork. Land Rover, in particular, needs to raise its game."
The Which? Car survey said: "Japan continues to blaze a trail for making reliable cars. The 'Which? Car' 'very good' reliability category is not simply dominated by Japanese brands. It is Japanese brands."
Of the British cars, Mini, Jaguar, Vauxhall and Land Rover, it said: "None of these brands is under British ownership any more, but most are built in the UK. Tata, Land Rover's new owner must improve reliability."
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auto001
- 6/20/2008 5:22:46 PM
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This is like revealing the fact that 2+2 = 4
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TurboSpyder
- 6/20/2008 6:46:48 PM
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Here are the reliability index scores from the UK car magazine “What Car”.
“The American Index has been researched from over 450,000 vehicle records. Unlike our UK analysis, repair costs are not included in this analysis and the index reflects solely the incidence of failure as a percentage - *the higher the percentage, the higher the risk of failure*.”
MERCEDES BENZ 36.23%
LEXUS 39.25%
TOYOTA 24.05%
VOLKSWAGEN 24.29%
HONDA 25.07%
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?apc=&country=usa&searchtype=relindex#
auto001
- 6/20/2008 10:25:54 PM
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If VWs are just as reliable as Toyota/Honda, I'm Homie the Clown :)
Normally, euros don't like to admit driving a Asian vehicle like Toyota/Honda, that percentage should be doubled atleast. They prob. fill those out kicking and streaming... not wanting to give props to them.
Euros always fancy VWs, they grew up with these Hitler People movers, and will give positive marks no matter what. Some probably do surveys and indicate Ferrari as the "other" car in the household.
Htay7500
- 6/21/2008 9:47:18 AM
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before this all goes outta hand, the GTI is the best VW there is, and probably the only VW I'd consider. and thats a fun car with some nice decent room in the back. but the rest of the line either, overpriced, have some corolla-like styling, and a high-performance model thats actually pushing 300 plus hp to the front wheels than all wheels. VW has comfort and ride on the top of its rivals, but if that diesel doesn't come soon to better fuel economy, they'll have a bit of a hard time. and that plant in the US should be built really soon to reduce the cost of the passat so it wouldn't jump out into luxury car territory. I'll certainly won't buy a toyota (for now) as the burmese people are more important to me than anything from toyota and I hope my friends and family will understand what toyota has done with the government to torture and repress these innocent peopleas well as their own workers. I don't need a honda, maybe the fit will do but I'm fine for now, but nissan, mazda and subaru wipe both toyota and honda like dirt.
Star
- 6/21/2008 9:54:21 AM
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auto001 "If VWs are just as reliable as Toyota/Honda, I'm Homie the Clown"
Oh look, Homie the Clown aka auto001 is posting on Autospies...Welcome the CLOWN!
TurboSpyder
- 6/21/2008 2:45:51 PM
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"If VWs are just as reliable as Toyota/Honda, I'm Homie the Clown"
Hi Homie!
0to60
- 6/20/2008 5:41:36 PM
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No shit! Are they just figuring that one out? 15 yrs late dont cha think?
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STJ88
- 6/20/2008 7:08:13 PM
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Some body is De boosting because they can't stand the truth.
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silver1
- 6/20/2008 7:11:49 PM
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The entire World knows that Japanese cars are more reliable than anything else on planet earth....This is no surprise....
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Star
- 6/20/2008 9:21:51 PM
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That's the world of sheep you are talking about. Check a few posts up where TurboSpyder presented FACTS that are clearly in contradiction with your retarded claim.
flozel1
- 6/20/2008 11:30:40 PM
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Dimwit, did you even read the article??? I know reading is a big challenge for you but in this case it really is quite easy to follow. You don't even need to link to any site. The information is right on this page. I'd like to point out for slow-learners like yourself specifically where within the article they mentioned Japanese makes being the most reliable, except THEY'RE ALL OVER THE DAMN ARTICLE.
Star
- 6/21/2008 9:48:21 AM
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di*khead, if in the 2008 you make a car choice based on reliability you should be put out, for crossing the line from stupidity to complete idiocy.
All the Japanese fans that get wet every time they read CR or other publication that takes surveys, SURVEYS based on OPINIONS of owners should be banned from participating in car forums.
Any REAL study that measured the number of breakdowns instead of just asking how the owners FEEL about their car showed that the German cars have LESS breakdowns than the Japanese cars. Ultimately for an intelligent human being that's unimportant since EVERIBODY WITH A BRAIN knows that ALL the cars today are the pretty much the SAME when it comes to reliability and all you should pay attention too is the build quality and driving experience(Japanese cars fail on both counts).
What kind of idiot buys a trashy POS Japanese car instead of an engineering masterpiece made in Germany because some retard (who obviously drives Japanese)believes that his car is better than the Mercedes his neighbour has and he fills the survey saying that his car(a POS Japanese car) is better because CR told him that even before he bought it.
Again, scientific breakdown measurements(ADAC) > opinions of retards about their own cars(CR, JD POWER)
Lemonade
- 6/20/2008 10:34:44 PM
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Europeans said it
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Willis
- 6/21/2008 4:01:22 AM
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"BMW's are mostly econobox's, built to very low standards."
To all the agents or webmasters at this site. BAN these trolls for crying out loud.
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EL44
- 6/21/2008 5:15:17 AM
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Hey are you trying to break the Japanese fan boy image? Or you are realy unconscient? BMW mades are among the best cars in the planet.
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EL44
- 6/21/2008 5:12:39 AM
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Interesting article. but the ones who cannot accept the fact can always keep dreaming.
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ChicaneShooter
- 6/21/2008 6:16:58 AM
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LOL! as oto60 said, it's a bit slow of the euros to "discover" this. americans learned this DECADES AGO.
that is exactly WHY detroit upper their game, and now come close to the japanese in reliability. BYPASSING the euros in the process.
euro fans are in SUCH DENIAL facing the fact that toyota and honda (to say nothing of Lexus and Infiniti) have eaten their lunch in the u.s., are will soon repeat on the rest of the planet.
if they don't wake up to reality, even HYUNDAI will sail past the over-hyped euro brands too. oh, wait! they ALREADY HAVE!
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Rupert
- 6/21/2008 3:52:13 PM
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'euro fans are in SUCH DENIAL facing the fact that toyota and honda (to say nothing of Lexus and Infiniti) have eaten their lunch in the u.s., are will soon repeat on the rest of the planet.'
What makes you think that? Hondas and Toyotas and Lexuses have been on sale in Europe for as long as they have in the US, why now would they suddenly become more popular? Unlike the US, Europe and the rest of the world have good alternatives to Japanese cars. For Example, in Toyota's segment, you have Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge? They're obviously renowned for building fantastic, high quality cars...in contrast we have Citroen, Ford Europe, Renault, VW, Skoda, Seat, Peugeot, Fiat and Opel. There's a lot more competition for Toyota here, Toyota can't be just 'good' to succeed, they have to be excellent, and so far, they haven't. Their cars have been a successive list of bland, uninspiring cars, with uninspiring engines. Where's the hot hatch? All the companies I've just listed have some form of a 'halo' car, and many have a great reputation in sporting events and in producing sporty cars, plus a reputation built around a name, whether it be VTS, RenaultSport, GTI, Cupra, VXR or Abarth. Toyota doesn't, and neither does Lexus (they're trying to), nor does Infiniti. That's why I prefer Honda, they make good cars with good engines and have a sporting pedigree with 'Type-R'. In my opinion as long as the Japanese offerings continue to have so little to offer over the European makes they will not do as well. What's their USP? Reliability, sure, but that doesn't get anyone excited. Audi has interiors, BMW has handling, Mercedes has innovation and luxury. Lexus is at least offering something unique, hybrids, but even then not enough of a fanfare is made about it. If I were Lexus I'd stick hybrid badges wherever I could, and make them look really different. Toyota, Lexus, Honda and Infiniti aren't about to sail past the Europeans in terms of anything.
ChicaneShooter
- 6/25/2008 7:02:51 AM
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the subject is RELIABILITY. and multiple surveys have proven the japanese always come up at the top rankings.
i don't deny other brands DO distinguish themselves in other areas. but again, RELIABILITY is the subject of the article, and this thread.
europeans don't put on as many miles as americans, so maybe the problems don't show up as soon. but ALL vehicles age, and start to have issues, large and small. most just put up with the small ones. for those that don't, they have LEARNED over the years, that japanese vehicles age slowest.
americans USE their cars, hard and long. and they have come to EXPECT japanese levels of reliability, to the point where detroit HAS HAD TO bring their standards up to this level. maybe someday, the euro brands will too.
ChicaneShooter
- 6/21/2008 6:53:49 AM
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detroit upped their game...
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Star
- 6/21/2008 9:51:03 AM
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Opinions of retards(who own Japanese cars) about their own cars are NOT FACTS.
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EL44
- 6/21/2008 1:15:37 PM
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Keep dreaming honey.
ChicaneShooter
- 6/27/2008 4:21:15 AM
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LOL!!! aynalStar of all people talking about facts and opinions. he is a BLACK HOLE of facts.
only star spews his fact-free idiotic OPINIONS all over the place, like diarrhea.
he dismisses CR reliability surveys as "just opinions." sure, X percent of owners have "an opinion" that sometime in the past year, they had to fork out money to fix their car. and X+A percent of vw owners also had like "opinions." LOL!
i have an opinion Star is world-class Stupid. oh wait! that's FACT, not opinion.
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