FIAT CEO Warns Chrysler Deal In Danger If UAW Fails To Cooperate

Same old story.this is utter insanity.

— roundwego (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 10:09:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

You would think that all parties agree that both are doomed without cooperation.

But for some reason every talk with the UAW has to be preceded by a threat.

Similar in fashion to the way the UAW always entered contract negotiations in the past. I guess what went around comes around.

— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 10:44:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

My guess is the UAW will concede because otherwise Chrysler will be liquidated.

— Deutschland (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 11:19:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I'm going guess UAW agrees to Fiat's terms for survival, then make their own threats in the near future. Just disgusting...

— A4ORCE (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 11:44:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

It appears there is the sticking point with the CAW in Canada. I guess they are just blind and stupid. This is not rocket science. Both the the UAW and CAW must agree to the same wages that Americans get with foreign auto companies in the US or they will soon be out of a job. Chrysler will no doubt declare bankruptsy immediately after April 30th.A real shame as I really think this merger will work. There needs to be the same pay for all auto workers for companies to be competative. The unions need to shift focus away from money demands or else.

— mini22 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 12:01:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

What does Fiat car anyway. They are getting 35 percent of a company for free.. and have the option of taking over 50 percent when this deal is done for a small amount. Fiat cant help them anyway. The cars they are talking about sending here are atleast two years away. Partnering with Nissan in the same situation makes more sense.

— NItePhire (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 12:03:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

This would help Chrysler, put these overpaid UAW people on the level again. Out of high-school with no college and you start at 80-100k a year. That is insane! Oh and you get incredible health benefits, and pension, oh and 95% of your salary if your fired. WTF, nobody has that kind of job security anymore. And don't lecture about they pay for some or all of their health benefits in some cases. If I was making 80-100k a year, I could easily afford the monthly health bill. Especially in states where the cost of living comparatively is low.

— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 12:11:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

hmm, I hope Chrysler fails soon... just so that some fear can be struck in the GM branch of the UAW.

— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 12:14:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

I agree with the sentiment that the UAW must agree to the concession or face with thousands being out of jobs. But the reality is, and I have been saying this for a long time now, the UAW's motto is to never concede a single penny. They rather lose all their jobs and ruin the American's auto industry before making any kind of concession. That is their negotiation tactic. They have held all of us tax payers hostage for so long now, and now I, too, want the death of our auto industry only to get rid of the UAW. We can emerge from bankruptcy through reorganization and be much more successful afterward, but only without having to deal with the UAW.

— investor27 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 12:26:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

It doesn't matter if they lose their jobs, they still get almost their full salary in out of work pay that will then become the governments problem since the auto company is going bankrupt which will increase our debt into more trillions than it already is.

Hey, what's a few more zeros on a check!

— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 1:17:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

UAW loves throwing themselves under the bus.

Way to go!

— richardposluszny (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 1:54:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I will educate the uneducated on this subject. First if you belive all this dumb A$$ crap from the media that we make 100k and do not have college degrees like the rest of America that makes YOU a dumb A$$. Oh how soon did we forget that all new hires make $14 an hour, much less then our Japanese counter parts oh and the great health car is not so great anymore and our pensions our in our own hands now been that wat for about 3 years now funny how people whith no inside info have so much useless and ignorent things to say about something they know nothing about.

— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 3:51:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Who would want a Fiat anyways.

— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 3:52:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

all garbage

— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:44:45 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

you calls these cars garbage? It's obvious you don't know jack $hit about cars. This coming from the guy who works for the company that brought you the Chevy Celebrity Eurosport, the Citation X, and the Chevette. I'd much rather have one of these instead of a 2 liter Alfa GTV.

— Veeracer (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 10:54:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

A point-Fiat is one of the best selling brands in Europe now behind VW and I think Ford. Fiat is not the crap unreliable brand it was 25 yrs ago. Also Sergio Marchionne took the company from near bankruptsy(when he was hired)to what it is today.The problem is 1UAW you need to either accept wages at what the Koreans and the Japs pay at US plants or be out of a job. What would you prefer. Chrysler will most likely go into Chapter 7 liquidation,not Chapter 11.That means that it's assets will be sold off and some foreign auto maker will swoop in and buy them.Assuming that happens who ever they hire will be paid what the Japs and Koreans are paying at US factories.Certainly Jeep will be bought by somebody and perhaps Dodge.Of course the UAW and CAW will claim victory.You say that new hires are at $14 per hour. The problem is the "old hires needs to be at $14 an hour or is unemployment more appealing.What if the Chinese buy all the tooling for Jeep and Dodge and move it to China.(That what happened to British Leyland.They did come back to reopen the British factory but only hired back about 3% of the former work force.)

— mini22 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 5:21:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8   

The UAW strikes again! Looks like these pot bellied no high school degree having idiots just don't get it. Bend or get ready to line up for unemployment!!

— hyundaifansdotcom (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 5:37:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

It seems that the UAW never negotiates with terrorists.

— Type707 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/15/2009 8:31:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Yay!!!!!!! No Fiats allowed in America. (Plays Banjo) Alpha Romeo would be a big threat.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:02:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

UAW needs to bend because in order for the new partnership to work, they must be competitive first on the labor department. Otherwise, nothing is gonna happen. Nobody wants the UAW in its current form. Amen.

— woood (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 12:59:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

UAW is the cancer that ravages the host. At this stage of the disease the best course of action is: do not resuscitate. The UAW needs to be made DNR.

— hensta (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 1:32:02 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Why do you all assume that people who work in the auto industry are uneductated idiots. Do you feel you are that much better than them?

— roundwego (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 7:24:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Something I have noticed. I don't know what kind of benefits Toyota or Honda workers have but as a comparison. Government workers compared to workers in a private company usually make quite a bit less but have much better benefits. Maybe the workers should decide which they would rather have.

— roundwego (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 7:28:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

Just to bring things to light first there have been NO discussion to date on this matter with Chrysler and the UAW so no one can't say the UAW is in the way or wont come to an agreement. You just have to love the biased media to blow things out of proportion and create an atmosphere of hate to sale ads and get money and its even more amazing how some people just fall for it.

— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 8:44:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

The other point about these legacy costs. There is a government backed program to pay out these legacy costs. This happened after Studabaker went bust in the early 60's. But here's the point. An old timer will only get about 20 to 25% of their benefits if chapter 11 bankruptsy is declared by either GM or Chrysler.So if this how the UAW wins by not agreeing to lower wages then I guess I don't quite get it.Wouldn't it be better to work for the lower wage and keep your job?

— mini22 (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 1:35:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

'Have you heard of commas, periods, you do know your run on sentences. Doesn't the uaw have a grade school program you can attend while you spend your time in the work bank?
How about one thought that makes sense.'


This is an auto site not school.

— upwards (View Profile)

Posted on 4/16/2009 2:14:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1