First The Japanese, Then the Koreans, Now India Targets the US Market

Well let's see. When the Japanese launched -I have heard many old people say that they were junk. When the Koreans launched - I saw that they were junks. So these cars are junks now - with the Chinese, but the Americans, Japanese, Koreans, and Europeans shouldn't count them out forever because it may come to haunt them. So with biases aside the other companies should pay attention rather than igore the competition. Any good company would do that and not be overconfident (This lesson was learned by the American manufacturers and the Europeans are seeing the effects now).

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/7/2006 3:56:46 PM | | Votes: 1   

"(This lesson was learned by the American manufacturers and the Europeans are seeing the effects now)"

Means that the American companies learned the lesson, while the Europeans are seeing the effects now.

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/7/2006 3:58:05 PM | | Votes: 2   

Kart1, You are wrong.
Just the opposite, I heard older people say that they were very reliable. Even in the 70's "just change the oil" them was very popular on Hondas and Toyotas.

Japanese product was always been known throughout the world as now..very reliable and high quality engineered.

take a look at the best engineered sword of the ancient times..It's the Samurai Sword. No European piece of rusted out crap even comes near the perfection of these Japanese metal swords. Infact Samurai swords are so well built, they say its just as solid as the very first day of its becoming from the hands of these meticulous builders. It was as if Japanese always disliked "low quality crap" ie MB, Audiwagon or BMw.


Sheepdog

— Homer008 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/7/2006 4:44:04 PM | | Votes: 2   

Nicehomer - The cars were reliable I agree, but I don't know too much about the other parts that make up a car. That is why I said that older people say that the cars were junk. I don't have any first hand experience owning a 60's, 70's, or a 80's car at all. Also (maybe I should have put this in the first comment) I didn't mean that the Japanese companies had poor reliability, although it may have sounded like because I put the Koreans in there too. I was talking more about feature content, comfort, and things like that. The Japanese cars were really cheap in those days (from the one's I've seen, but the reliability was definitely solid) - just like the Korean cars were and kind of still are. So as I consider many Kia's and Hyundai's junk (all a couple of years ago) many people may considered Toyota's and Honda's were junk because they weren't up to the standards when compared with comfort, convenience, ride, and things like that. I didn't mean to mislead. Toyota is king when it comes to reliability.

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/7/2006 5:31:40 PM | | Votes: 2   

god those indian companys are shit. its made for the roads of india where there is no such thing as traffic rules and the only use of those trucks is because they can take damage and still run. i'm giving you guys a warning from experience, stick to the solid german engineering.

— mand (View Profile)

Posted on 11/7/2006 8:24:21 PM | | Votes: 3   

Why so we can have several reliability problems??? If you really want to give advice about reliability you should always recommend Toyota. Because no matter how much you argue against Toyota's reliability (saying that "Toyota's have problems too") Toyota will still be the most reliable manufacturer out there.

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/7/2006 10:59:48 PM | | Votes: 3   

Oh and only companies like Toyota and Honda consider other markets when they launch cars (you know build cars for specific markets - mainly America, Asia, and Europe). All other manufacturers make cars for their home markets. Why do you think German cars don't have big cupholders (Do they have the 64 oz. drinks in Germany? I feel the ones in BMW's just might break) Why do American cars have the biggest engines??? Gas is cheap here and there is no tax on engine size.

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/7/2006 11:04:09 PM | | Votes: 3   

Finally, someone said it! Kart1, you do understand.

— Homer008 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/8/2006 7:46:49 AM | | Votes: 1   

Oh another thing..your comment;
"I would rather drive an Indian-designed car than a Chinese one", don't even try to bullshit us...You wouldn't drive a Indian-designed car if we payed you liar. Grow up young lad.


sheepdog

— Homer008 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/8/2006 7:56:48 AM | | Votes: 1   

Correct again:
Ssaang Yong uses a inline 6 built by a MB, on their SUV and Vans (diesel). It probably wasn't a bad engine..at the time of use for S.Yong but now its heinously outdated as you've stated. Right on!

Sheepdog

— Homer008 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/8/2006 8:02:51 AM | | Votes: 1   

Didn't Honda start with a lawnmower engine on a bicycle, or something like that? Most companies have humble beginnings, it's where they're going and how they're getting there that counts.

— cynic (View Profile)

Posted on 11/8/2006 10:00:28 AM | | Votes: 1   

Jugnu - you are expecting too much from these companies. I guess you want to be as advanced as the Japanese and Europeans??? Not now - India is a developing nation where as Japan and Europe are developed. So the products are not up to standards of what the Japanese are building - and no one should expect them to be at that standard - because other than the Japanese no one has production techniques that are that good.

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/8/2006 2:05:50 PM | | Votes: 1   

jugnu, aka resident birdbrain. You said they should keep their junk to themselves. By the same standard, why dont you keep your half-assed, nonsensical posts to yourself until you can learn how to spell.

— dweezil (View Profile)

Posted on 11/8/2006 7:51:09 PM | | Votes: 0