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GM and Fiat looking to buy BMW engines
BMW arguably builds some of the finest engines in the industry but the carmaker isn’t one to prevent other makes from using its powerplants. Only last week Citroen announced plans to use BMW engines in some of its cars and soon GM and Fiat could be doing the same.

Both GM and Fiat are currently in negotiations with BMW over a deal to procure engines and transmissions, according to the Financial Times Deutschland, citing sources at all three carmakers.
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1995e341995e34 - 2/28/2008 10:01:28 AM
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engines AND transmissions...meaning more rwd gm and fiat models? great news.

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07G35J07G35J - 2/28/2008 11:01:15 AM
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GM vehicles powered by BMW engines. I like the sound of it. That's great news.

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richard112360richard112360 - 2/28/2008 11:30:04 AM
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GM vehicles powered by BMW engines and BMW vehicles powered by GM Transmission sounds like a plan to me.

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Autoegr525Autoegr525 - 2/28/2008 4:00:35 PM
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BMW has used GM transmissions in many models in the past, the old 4 speed for inline 6's and the five speed used with the V8's were GM units.


PorschinatorPorschinator - 2/28/2008 4:26:41 PM
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BMW3...wake up bro...


1995e341995e34 - 2/28/2008 7:27:08 PM
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rolls royce used gm transmissions too


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 2/28/2008 9:22:21 PMView My AgentSpace
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No the 4 speeds were ZF 4hp22 and later the ZF 4hp22eh when the manual mode was available in mid to late 80's. the 5 speed auto was indeed a gm design.


damikcodamikco - 2/28/2008 9:41:19 PMView My AgentSpace
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GM inthe passt has already been a partner with BMW so this is no surprise, considering they are already engaged in a project to prouduce a hydrogen drive system.


MiltonMilton - 2/28/2008 12:44:26 PM
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Now we know that they will have some really great and reliable engines :)

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MKIIIdbMKIIIdb - 2/28/2008 4:23:56 PM
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I cant believe BMW would ever sell engines another company, let alone GM.
WOW! i just lost alot of respect for BMW


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PorschinatorPorschinator - 2/28/2008 4:33:33 PM
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GM and BMW have been close partners in developing technology for a long time. They both have implemented eachothers tech into their line ups. Anyone says differently is being naive or ignorant.

Latest collaboration is the Hybrid Two-Mode system. BMW engineers great motors and I have a friend that owns a European Repair shops and prefers BMW to MB and Audi is a close 2nd. This can only be good for all parties. Wonder which motors are under discussion and for which vehicles. Perhaps only for GM's Euro cars only?


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GruntyDieselsRockGruntyDieselsRock - 2/28/2008 5:45:59 PM
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That will explain why my 330 shifts like shit maybe.

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jgf330xijgf330xi - 2/28/2008 6:23:05 PM
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Anyone remember the Lincoln MKVII Diesel?? BMW Diesel from the 525d...

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huu76huu76 - 2/28/2008 8:29:39 PM
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BMW3,
Getrag. Now get a clue.


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528i528i - 2/28/2008 8:40:12 PMView My AgentSpace
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yay I got a GM transmission on my car.

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bmwfan1513bmwfan1513 - 2/28/2008 8:59:07 PM
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85bmw745i85bmw745i - 2/28/2008 9:26:18 PMView My AgentSpace
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GM is stepping up their quality big time. For the first time I can actually recommend an American car to someone. I think BMW and GM could do alot, especially if they help inspire and design engines for GM. I can't believe I am saying this!!!

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damikcodamikco - 2/28/2008 9:47:01 PMView My AgentSpace
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Fact GM uses honda motors in the previous saturn vue redline, Toyoat 1.8 in its pontiac vibe. What many consumers dont know is that most of the car companys develope variuos auto componets together. (cost effictive nreasons.

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1995e341995e34 - 2/28/2008 10:44:37 PM
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they have. automatic trannies, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_4L30-E_transmission


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1995e341995e34 - 2/28/2008 10:46:08 PM
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automatic transmission developed and produced by General Motors. It was developed for light-duty use in longitudinal engine rear-wheel drive vehicles, replacing the similar TH180/3L30. The 4L30-E was used in many European and Japanese vehicles, including the BMW 3- and 5 Series, Isuzu Rodeo and its derivatives, and Opel Omega/Cadillac Catera. It was replaced by the 5-speed 5L40-E/5L50. The 4L30-E was built at GM's transmission plant in Strasbourg, France.

Applications:

* 1991–1995 BMW 525i
* 1992–1995 BMW 325i
* 1992–1998 BMW 318i
* 1994–2001 Honda Passport
* 1994–2003 Opel Omega B
* 1996–1999 BMW 328i
* 1996–1999 BMW 528i
* 1996–2000 BMW Z3
* 1996– Acura SLX
* 1996– Opel Frontera
* 1997–1999 BMW 323i
* 1997–2001 Cadillac Catera
* 1999– Isuzu Amigo
* 2001– Isuzu VehiCROSS
* 1991–1998 Isuzu Rodeo
* 1990–2001 Isuzu Trooper

-wiki


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amazinBimmeramazinBimmer - 2/29/2008 8:27:28 PM
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of course GM would .. when you want the best engines there is only one place to go.. BEE EM dubya.

ask mclaren f1, the new lotus, RR (prior to purchase), Morgan, etc. its called core competency


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