Geely is the leading contender to takeover Volvo

One of the highest quality brands in the world of automakers and they will sell it to Geely? Why Ford wants to ruin it so much!?!

— OBSERVER1984 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/25/2009 4:53:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Shame if it does...

— lexusrox123 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/25/2009 5:07:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

How sad. Where is Ford's conscience?

— 4ron (View Profile)

Posted on 9/25/2009 5:09:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Capitalism is about making money, not about national security. That's where Western countries fail. China and Korea use industry as an extension of foreign policy (hence the exploit and dump into foreign markets, restrict domestic competition strategy). Japan used to do it (not so much anymore) and as much as the rest of Asia hates to admit it, they're copying the same strategy.

Why would Geely bother buying something they can easily copy? Does Volvo have any technology patents (not like they mean anything in China)?

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/25/2009 11:42:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

SWEET!!!!

Another Hyundai Competitor limping along the prairie, as the Hyundai Wolf stalks it.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/26/2009 1:03:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6   

The Chinese are still 20 years away in engine tech. They still cant even pass our crash tests. Their crash protection tech is 1950s.

By the way, nobody leapfrogs to anything, they earn it, they fight for it, and they walk to it. Unless they were born with a silver spoon in their mouthes.

Thats what Hyundai is doing with our Luxury ambitions.

Hyundai prices except for the Accent (for now) are more than most models of the same segments now from different brands. Their cars arent really cheap anymore without incentives. Hyundai is moving from being a cheap Toyota to a Cheap lexus, their prices are starting to reflect that. Where have you been at?

3 Years ago the Cheapest Elantra was $11,000, the cheapest one is almost $15,000 today. The Cheapest Sonata was $15K 3 years ago, the cheapest one is $18K today. These are just the current Gen Products.
The Next Gen stuff will be even more costly as the interiors and exteriors are much more advanced than they are right now. Hyundai had caught up to their econo car competitors 5 years ago. Now they are using KIA for that role and slowly trying to catch up to Luxury Competitors.

Our Products are superior than other Entry Level Luxury Makes like Chrysler. Especially for a cost, reliablity, and fuel efficiency standpoint. Entry Level Luxury makes=Econo cars for rich people like Volvo are actually the intended target as well.

We may Benchmark Lexuses, and BMW, and Benzes, but our real competition is Volvo and Chrysler. Why buy a Volvo or a Chrysler when you can get a quality, reliable, fuel efficient Hyundai with the same Kit for $2000-$5000 less?

Also, unlike Volvo Hyundai makes stuff people actually want.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/26/2009 7:00:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5   

Hyundai also has a program to make their cars fatailty free in 10 years. They say that internal research shows we can do it better and at a cost savings than Volvo can.

10 year Hyundai Plan:

1. 24 months= Start to roll out new and Redesigned models that have the Fit and Finish that reflects our upmarket ambitions, yet provide the public with an alternative cost savings. In other Words, provide the public with Volvos, SAABs, Buicks, Lower trim Lexuses, and Cadillacs for Mazda Prices. We used the same formula when we started with Toyota. We provided good Kit for Bargain Basement prices.

2. 5 years=Be be the most fuel efficient Make on the Planet; Luxury or non-Luxury.

3. 10 Years= A. Move our brand futrher upmarket to be more competitve with Lexus, and undercut Benz.

B. Provide all vehicles with "Fatality Free" features as standard.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/26/2009 7:13:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

The New Models coming out will be in this order:

1. Genesis/ Genesis Coupe
2. Tucson
3. Sonata-i40 Sedan/Sonata Touring-i40 Wagon (Portico)
4. Elantra
5. Accent/Veloster
6. Veracruz

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/26/2009 7:21:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Azera is still a question mark.

Santa Fe will be a 2012-2013 model.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/26/2009 7:23:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Oh Yeah Kornholio. You should try one too.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 3:31:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Nice comment from a guy who Worships GM vehicles. Lmao.

Like anybody but a GM lover is going to take you seriously.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 4:25:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

GM=Dying, but on temporary life support. GM=Chrysler 1979-2009.

Just being real they even have execs doing Iacocca impressions now. Next thing you know you have your little K Cars (Viva and Spark) that will save you for 10 years, and after that time Americans with their short attention spans will forget again and demand that you make the most decadent vehicles possible.

So in 10-20 years, GM will cater to the public's wants and start making the next energy wasters. Gas wasters, Diesel wasters, Electric Wasters, Hydrogen Wasters or whatever. Something will happpen to that market and those big elegant decadent vehicles youve made will be useless in a shi-ty economic climate. The Government will bail you out, but only with the condition that you get bought by HYUNDAI or BYD.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 4:33:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Who Knows GM might get bought out by PROTON in 20-30 years?

Sorry 1UAW, I dont take advice from a lover of cars that most reasonable human beings wont tough with a 10 ft pole.

At least Hyundai makes stuff people want.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 4:37:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

GM will be bought out by VW or Toyota in 10 years, then Toyota's quality will suffer horribly becuase of it. GMC and Buick will be bought out or get axed. It will be Cadillac and Chevy. Chevys and Toyotas (Or Chevys and SEATs) will share the same parts, Cadillacs and Lexuses (Or VWs and Audis) will share the same parts.

VW or Toyota will sell GM off to some bank or venture captial firm, that only sees GM as a cash cow, as long as it makes dough. That capital firm will let GMs incompetent management run the company into the ground. While Toyota or VW even after 5-10 years away from GM will still have a tough time regaining their crown.


Hell, GM is even moving their headquarters out to the Suburbs, like Chrysler did in the 80s.

Hyundai will have easily dominated all of these guys in either: perception style quality luxury, etc....



**Note: Hyundai has trouble providing enough cars right now to meet demand, they have 6 plants being constructed globally. One in Canada, one in Brazil, one in Russia, 2 in China, and another one in India. They are also looking at sites up in the Midwest and South to possibly build another plant. They are doubling the size of their Alabama Plant as we speak also. They are even looking at sites in Nigeria, Egpyt, Ethiopia, and South Africa to build their first African plant as well.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 4:57:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Canada=Elantra/Forte Plant

Brazil=Accent/Rio/Veloster Plant

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 5:00:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

The Alabama Plant is being expanded to build more Sonatas for Export, They are adding a KIA Optima Line there as well, and More Small cars like the KIA Soul.

The KIA Plant in Georgia will be building Trucks.

KIA lines build better trucks, and Hyundai lines build better cars. Why not have KIA make the company trucks, and Hyundai make the company cars?

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 5:04:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Hyundaismoke,
Actually, I can see why Geely wants Volvo. They can buy what Hyundai can't earn, a legit luxury brand.

Imagine China forcing its way into the S.Korean market (S.Korea would have no choice if they still want to sell cars in China) and then selling Volvos at 1/2 the price of a Kia. Koreans would eat it up, a Western brand at half the price. Bye bye Hyundai monopoly, probably bye bye Hyundai either way. They'd go bankrupt losing their home market or losing their China market.

S.Korea is about to find out what Japan has been feeling ever since S.Korea decided to copy everything Japan does.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 5:27:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

1uaw,
Japan has loosened its trade policies, how else do you explain Indian and Korean junkers being allowed into Japan?

You should also watch "Roger & Me" and see that UAW support should be for any company manufacturing in N.America, not just any company with a N.American name.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 5:30:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

huu, Chinese Companies already make blatant Hyundai rip offs, but some of them are licensed by Hyundai as well.

Hyundai/KIA is in the stages of making it harder for them to copy=New Designs that Chinese companies with their limited budgets will not be able to copy correctly.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 6:22:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

FFS, HyundaiSmoke can you stop replying/talking to yourself. There is a medical term for the problem you have.

— audispy (View Profile)

Posted on 9/27/2009 8:35:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Hyundaismoke,
The Chinese under the PRC are masters of copying. There isn't anything Korea can make that the Chinese can't copy. Just because Hyundai includes a bluetooth in their car doesn't make it too high tech to copy.

Would you like to name a car that the Chinese copied from Hyundai? joint ventures don't count so your licensing argument is pure BS.

Even if it were true, why would Hyundai argue since the "design" being stolen was stolen from Honda/Toyota first anyway.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2009 8:02:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0