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A very logical choice considering the US is one of their biggest markets. Have Lexus, MB, Audi thrown there hats in the diesel ring?

— Terminal10 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/5/2007 7:00:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

lol

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/5/2007 8:16:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

You just made a funny, of yourself. Anyone that knows anything about cars knows that TDIs (the diesels on Audis and VWs) are on top of the game.

The Q7 TDI spanks the snot out of the diesel X5 in this video (the MB R class CDI as well) Come again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCu1SWgqU0w

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 3/5/2007 8:19:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

"amazinBimmer" used to be AmazingBimmer, but I have a hunch that he got kicked off, and unfortunately, came back.

He doesn't seem to have much of a grip on reality.

Bring the BMW diesels on! Hopefully, this will grow to be a strong market. "Sir, would you like to be picked up in the A8L 4.2TDI or 335d?" "I'm in the mood for something luxurious today, Winston. Bring along the A8."

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 3/5/2007 9:14:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

TDI, CDI, Bluetec, whatever... let's get some diesels over here finally!

— jeffy210 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/5/2007 10:17:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

"Reuters reported that BMW AG".....ok...so where's the link?

— mstangpny07 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/5/2007 10:27:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

you audi and MB fanboys will be weeping when the 335d comes here. or you will be buying one yourselves

— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 3/5/2007 10:28:43 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

but how much this cost
i have red somewhere it could cost one about 45K
that is too much

— pchera01 (View Profile)

Posted on 3/6/2007 1:03:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

What happend to hydrogen cars??

— 528i (View Profile)

Posted on 3/6/2007 1:43:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Just a comment by someone that actualy owns a Diesel, a diesel has a lower consumption but it is way more expensive in everything else and by a long shot, don't get me wrong, i like it and that's the reason i have it since i run so many miles per year it is kind of cost effectiv but prepare because where i live diesel is about 20% cheaper than petrol and in US that doesn't hapen!!!
If you want some more info about how it gets more expensive just say something!!!

— Ventura (View Profile)

Posted on 3/6/2007 3:40:22 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Yes, that is true, diesel is currently more expensive than gasoline. But the supply and demand will take over. As more diesels get on the market, the price of diesel will drop.

— tomloy (View Profile)

Posted on 3/6/2007 4:11:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

BMW was always No.1 diesel maker.By far most silent powerfull and less thirsty diesels.You can compare any other engines but(at least) in the diesel segment you simply can't.The 335D is stunning and it won 2005,2006,2007 International Engine of the year in it's category.Audi won only in '99 with it's 2.5L V6 because they didn't have a 3.0L diesel back then(in 99 the 3.0D from BMW won).Every single year,BMW wins international engine of the year in many categories,diesels and petrol while Audi never wins anything.
You'll probably think that what i say it's totally biased and maybe it sounds like that but wait until you experience both BMW and Audi diesels.They're uncomparable.Audi has a lot to learn and probably some day they will be on top in the diesel segment but today....no way.
Mercedes is the biggest looser.It's diesels sound like tractors.I've expected the new S to be different but it's not.Same horrible noise.

http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/
http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/previous04.html

— Kostin (View Profile)

Posted on 3/6/2007 5:20:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

DiamondJim, it seams that you wrote something!!! LOL! everything is more expensive, first of all, the price for a TDI is higher than it's performance equivalent in petrol about 5000€ or 6500USD if you prefer, then you have maintenance, i have 2 Golfs, one diesel and the other one Petrol, the Petrol one when it goes to the shop i pay in average 200€, in the diesel i never paid less than 700€ and the highest that i had for a regular maintenace job was 1400€( 1800 USD ) and i think that it is rather expensive!!! Then we have the tires, they last about 3/5 of what my petrol car does, high torque is fun but it is not friendly for the tires!! All of this is making me think before buying my next car, that and the part that the diesels are quite fun with all the grunt in low RPM but after 2 or 3 months you are missing the revs hunger of a petrol engine!!! About the torque believe me it gets boring after a while, you have a big grunt that is always making the wheels spin but the traction control is constantly killing it and if you turn it off you just buy a new set of tires every 15K miles or less!!!

— Ventura (View Profile)

Posted on 3/6/2007 10:37:36 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

@ventura:Hi there!Thank you,i am fine.Who gives a rats ass how much taxes do you pay in your country? You said it yourself that it's an American website.Hypothetically speaking,maybe in US you don't pay taxes at all if you own a diesel.All countries have different taxes.The way you said it,sounded that a diesel is 5000€ more than a petrol engine.You did not mention any taxes!!! If you take a look at the latest diesels released you will see that they are close to petrol engines performance,they have less HP but a lot more torque.For example:the 745D accelerates from 0-100km/h in 6.6s while the 750i does it in 6.0s.Really don't you think they're close enough?
P.S.:You didn't answer to my question regarding the 1400€ "regular maintenance job" for a VW Golf.

— Kostin (View Profile)

Posted on 3/6/2007 5:12:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Kostin, has you said they have more torque but don't you think that if it was the 745i with 6.8s from 0-100 will be a smaller gap tham for 750? I believe that you are from europe so you should know smaller engines and if you know it you can see that this gap in smaller engines is bigger!! If you compare the 2.0TFSI with 2.0tdi (same volume) in their highest specifications they have a huge gap betwen them, you have examples of this in almost every brand present in european market! About my coutry, well you're right, i live in a country ruled by morons that inspite beeing one of the lowest paying wages country have the 2nd or 3rd more expensive cars in the UE, as you can see for what you pay for a 330d i can only buy a golf tdi!!
About the maintenance, it hapens every 90.000km what for me is less than 2 years and it is the distribuction belt, only in pieces i pay 700€ and then i have the handwork to install it, to this you just had oil, diesel filter, oil filter, air filters, windows whipers and the rest of the handwork plus taxes and you get the nice sum of 1453€.

— Ventura (View Profile)

Posted on 3/7/2007 3:53:10 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

ok, let's just get it clear, first of all i said the average price for petrol was 200 and that in the diesel i never paid less than 700 (read post), second if i had change water pump and brake pads this maintenace would be compreensible but no, i didn't change!! it was ONLY distribution kit like you said and filters and oil and some rings and whipers, not even lamps i changed more!!! If you think that this is the most expensive one, think again, the next one (1000Km away) will reach over 2000€, brake disks and pads and a valve thats broken, before i do the maintenance i ask for the price in 3 diferent oficial dealers and it had only a 100€ diference betwen the most expensive and the less one!! in the petrol one the maintenace equivalent to the 1453 one was nearly 400€!!! Big diference, no?
About diferences in performances, let's choose your car, C-class and not a model so expensive that no one cares if it pays 5000 more or less, the diference betwen the C200K and the C220CDI is huge, i'm speaking about performance figures and as you know, one is a 1.796L and the other one is 2.148L!! About buying a diesel, it still compensates in here since the diesel is 20% less expensive than petrol but that doesn't hape in US, in US the diesel is more expensive than petrol and as you know the modern diesel cars don't accept quite well low quality diesel so they have to buy premium diesel removing a big part of the benefit of buying a diesel, then you have the maintenance, of course us doesn't have such big taxes like in here so perhaps the price wouldn't be so high but if we go by proportions and you pay the double it will be another part of the benefit of buying a diesel that would fly away!! What i'm saying is that considering the prices PERHAPS it is not that nice deal for an American to buy a diesel!!!

— Ventura (View Profile)

Posted on 3/7/2007 5:46:06 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Don't get me wrong, diesel is way more fuel eficient so i wish that all Americans could buy diesel, they would reduce the oil consumption of the country by a high percentage but in the end all the acounts made in each individual pocket they wouldn't be richer!!
If a petrol car was 1500 USD cheaper than the diesel equivalent it would take quite a thousands of miles for them to get the return of the money!! Don't forget also that both petrol and diesel are cheaper in US than in UE!!

— Ventura (View Profile)

Posted on 3/7/2007 6:03:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1