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Have the Americans stolen the crown back for the best looking mid-size sedan?

Agent001 submitted on 10/20/2007 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 12:21 PM
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Have the Americans stolen the crown back for the best looking mid-size sedan?

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Czelinski - 10/20/2007 12:32:50 PM

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It does look good, but not the best looking mid size sedan.

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adamsaf723 - 10/20/2007 11:34:50 PM

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I agree. It's an improvement, but not enough so to impact the mid-size sedan segment drastically.

EnnNorak - 10/21/2007 9:32:27 AM

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It looks good but Chevy needs to find a better-looking logo and not plaster it in your face on that ugly wide piece across the grille. As for the Aura, I can't believe the ugly tail tlights that make the car look as el-cheapo as the Ford Edge rear. Tail lights should be solid red and not have any silly chrome surrounds or ugly clear lenses with visible chrome behind them.

Jagexpert2 - 10/23/2007 7:49:18 PMView My AgentSpace

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I think the interior is original in execution. Its a dynamic departure from the modular, piecemeal looking dashes that GM has been recycling for years. It was one of the main reasons that I would never have driven a GM car or truck. I would have lost my mind staring at their dash for more than a day. Try renting one and you will see what I mean.

That being said ENN Norak makes a good observation. I think the Old bow tie Chevy badge needs an update.

As for the exterior I think its a very good start. The Saturn brand seems to have given its redesign flu to Chevy. Yay!!

moto - 10/25/2007 11:46:09 PM

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EnnNorak, don't forget that the badge on the bonnet is the only thing certain fanboys look for. If Chevy wants to improve its image, it really should be putting it out proudly on its best products.

Or maybe Chevy needs a badge switcher, like James Bond's rotating license plate, so that the Malibu will actual be considered for what it is rather than what past history the bowtie (real or imagined) has with brand-blinded buyers. Based on my initial reactions to it, it's head and shoulders above the Camry, Accord, and Ultima from a materials, detail design, and build quality standpoint. i haven't done an in-depth comparison, though, so i reserve judgement. All the comments nitpicking individual styling are ridiculous. This is a family sedan, not a supermodel. Compare these on how well it cooks, not how well the photoshopped skirt photo looks in the magazine.

bmwdrvr - 10/20/2007 12:36:52 PM

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i wouldnt call the new impala crap...comeone that was a bit much the SS models are good looking, they just dont scream stare at me, and neither does any other car in that class. the impalas seem very popular you seem them all over the place, and not just as rental or commercial. i think this new malibu is nice looking, not sure about best styling in its class, but than again styling is subjective.

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/20/2007 5:36:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yes, it is, and the Impala is quite possibly the most boring design on the road. Inside and out! It's so incredibly bland. It's hard to describe. And it's certainly not a good car.

pushrod27 - 10/22/2007 3:36:13 PM

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I agree. I think the current Impala SS is a nice-looking, understated car. There's nothing exciting about it, but i think it's basic shape is appealing. Do you seriously think the Camry or the Avalon are better looking?

pushrod27 - 10/22/2007 3:39:33 PM

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Also, S4: how do you know the Impala is not a good car? i know a few people with them, and they seem to be reliable. I rented one a few weeks ago. It was a base model LT with the smallest engine, but it was still pretty nice. The interior is very spacious, the ride incredibly smooth. My only complaint is the hard cheap plastic used for the lower part of the dash and the doors.

bmwdrvr - 10/22/2007 5:18:41 PM

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deboost me all you want, but the impala is a great car, i know owners, they have never problems with them, can you say that about a vw audi no you cant, those arent good cars not in the slightest. the impala is hey stare at me, but neither is anything else in that class the ss is good looking its not bland, just toned down, and classy. i personally like them, and i as a fact know they are good cars, and big sellers

S4cabriofoxone - 10/22/2007 5:40:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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Okay, fine, they're reliable but they're not well-built and there's no reason to buy one. I'd go as far as to say I'd rather have the new Ford "Taurus..."

mini22 - 10/20/2007 12:50:29 PM

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I must say it looks nicer then a Camry and Accord. I don't know about the interior quality but it does look nice and remind me of the Saturn Aura.It just gets down to how nice it is to drive.

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zorbeeze - 10/20/2007 1:01:25 PM

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I think the Aura is the best looking in that class interior and exterior but this Malibu and the new Accord are a close second.

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EnnNorak - 10/21/2007 9:36:49 AM

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Except for the ugly tail lights on the Aura.

DaHarder - 10/21/2007 12:19:57 PM

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We get it, YOU don't like the Aura's tail-lights, even though I'm sure there are many that find them both elegant and very practical with there simple design (that follows the contours of the car) and use of much more visible L.E.D. bulbs.

EnnNorak - 10/26/2007 12:18:01 PM

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DaHarder, it's not the shape of the Aura tail lights I am complaining about. It's the silly tasteless chrome surround on what would otherwise be a decent solid red tail light. Chrome surrounds and excessive use of clear lenses are becoming a hallmark of cheaper vehicles. Its a conspiracy in the auto industry to help differentiate cheap cars from more expensive cars as expensive cars are generally overvalued now that most of their luxury features have trickled down to lesser cars. Its a form of blackmail marketing: pay me more or put up with an ugly feature.

theoptimisticpessimist - 10/20/2007 1:02:56 PM

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Pretty car, much simpler and more elegant design than the competition. the interior is simply beautiful, I hope the quality can match the Asian counterparts. If it does, wow a real contender.

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Auto_Fan - 10/20/2007 1:06:48 PM

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GM is getting better in their products lately. They are offering cars with better quality, upgraded interior, more features, good engines and transmissions and also better reiability and warranty.
Not to forget to mention that they are more affordable than some of the competetion. If they continue to improve they will earn the crown, not steal it!!

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EnnNorak - 10/21/2007 9:35:43 AM

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I agree that, on balance, GM is making a big come-back but there are still forces within GM that threaten to reverse the trend by falling back on styling gimmicks in some instances.

CBR2200 - 10/20/2007 1:29:26 PM

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Looks great inside and out except from the rear it's damn fugly.

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M35MT - 10/22/2007 8:42:30 AMView My AgentSpace

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I agree, the rear looks derivative.

Saturn has the best brand identity of the GM brands. Their designs, following in the footsteps of the Sky, look really good. The new VUE acutally looks respectable next to a CR-V and Rav4 (which, arent beautiful by any means - but they look good for what they are).

Lyall - 10/20/2007 2:10:54 PM

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Agent 001: Autospies was a lot better without your recent deluge of low quality posts. For a brief period when you didn't post so much, the quality of articles was higher. Agent009's contributions are better. You come up with biased, opionated headlines and try to pass them off as industry gospel. I'm not saying you suck totally, but lately, you damn near have. This recent Malibu claim, is another example of your faux-journalism. Why the hell can't you try and write like Dan Neil does?

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Agent001 - 10/20/2007 5:20:24 PMView My AgentSpace

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Biased, opinionated...Damn straight!

People want to know our true viewpoint...not some watered down Sunday newspaper, 'we're so paid off by the advertisers', it's not even funny style.

They want us to get to the bottom of things and you can't do that being middle of the road.

When we're right, we're right.

And when we're wrong, the readers point it out.

So glad Al Gore invented this internet thing, so we can have a forum that shows the REAL pulse of the automotive landscape.

'Why the hell can't you try and write like Dan Neil does?'

Because then I'd be Dan Neil and not Agent 001.

Dan is Dan and I'm 001.

Dan is good but so am I.

Two entirely different styles and focus.

And finally, you can't please everyone...but thank you for your feedback and support of AutoSpies.com.

001

utahnkid - 10/20/2007 7:01:07 PM

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I think you're the only one here taking this stuff as "industry gospel". Maybe you just need to get out more. This site is for entertainment and nothing more, just relax and I promise you'll make it through your day. Don't like how things are done or said here? Then I'm sure you can find a thousand other auto enthusiast websites.

DaHarder - 10/20/2007 2:12:33 PM

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Fantastic looking vehicle, inside and out, seems to use very nice materials, and have a nice build quality.

It's my opinion that both Toyota and Honda seriously stumbled with their current mid-to-full sized entries this generation.

Toyota with their unpleasantly shoddy interior, and Honda by making the Accord (sedan) extremely unattractive... Almost laughably so.

With the Aura already having paved the way for buyer acceptance of a high quality/desirable mid-to-full sized vehicle, I strongly believe that the Malibu will take that baton and Run With It.

Great Job GM!

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ICON - 10/20/2007 7:18:59 PM

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Couldn't agree more!! Great job GM..definitely better looking than the Camry/Honda group.

farabira1 - 10/20/2007 2:20:39 PM

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I mean the malibu looks original in the sense that it looks american, and the design is quite progressive but still the 08 accord looks ten times better than this malibu and even the altima looks to be a few notches higher in design. And toyota camry, not my favorite of cars, but i'll rate it higher than malibu in terms of design. But certainly GM is in the ring, and will be a serious consideration for buyers of midsize sedans in this segment. GM is not in a faniancial crisis like Ford, and i guess it is Ford who needs to emulate GM in how to regain top spot after having heavy losses. American Motor industry is certainly coming back into contention.

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JUGNU - 10/20/2007 4:01:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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To me Camry/Aurion/Avalon (All 3 we get here in Middle East) have no parallel from GM(or any other make for that matter).Be it design, engines, functionality, reliability, quality, value, resale....etc

JUGNU

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DaHarder - 10/20/2007 4:10:49 PM

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Honestly now...

Do you really find the Camry's design attractive, or better yet...

Can you actually say that if the Camry and the Malibu were parked side-by-side, stripped of any identification as to their manufacturers, you would find the Camry more aesthetically pleasing than the 2008 Malibu?

For me the answer is a resounding NO!

And I have every reason to believe that the build quality/relaibility et al. will be more than up to task as well.

Note: To each their own.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/20/2007 5:39:54 PMView My AgentSpace

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The Camry is not a well-built vehicle.

Will_ - 10/20/2007 8:38:59 PM

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^lol.

Congratulations on your quest to totally lose all your credibility.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/21/2007 12:47:36 AMView My AgentSpace

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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/LongTerm/articleId=117036/pageNumber=2

Ignorance is bliss, Will. You're a blissful person, I see.

Will_ - 10/21/2007 4:59:31 PM

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And you quite clearly just cannot read. From your very article:

"Indeed, the car feels solid and likely to maintain its structural integrity through the next decade or two or three."

"At no point during our ownership was the Camry affected by recalls, nor did we experience any mechanical failures. The reliability of our Toyota was never questioned, though a traffic collision taught us the limits of its durability."

A few "misaligned panels" as one of the team of reviewers quoted the Camry as having, did not equate your blanket statement.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/22/2007 12:23:36 AMView My AgentSpace

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Not being well-built means it has misaligned panels and cheap interior pieces--that's exactly what their vehicle had. Most of the cars based off the Camry platform have interiors that IMO just don't stand up to Toyota's reputation... that includes the Lexus models. I am not happy with how the RX's interior has held up.

Will_ - 10/22/2007 4:31:22 AM

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And yet you fight to the death over VW's shoddy quality and reliability like it's over-exaggerated...

S4cabriofoxone - 10/22/2007 5:44:51 PMView My AgentSpace

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2007 Automobile Car of the Year: GTI

And Will, if you've read any of my comments, I absolutely know that American VWs are not reliable and I'm still waiting for them to do something about it. But there are two generalizations that are just incorrect: that Audis are also unreliable and that VWs outside the North American market are unreliable. In fact, Audi is quietly inching up the charts--they are the most reliable German brand at the moment. That may not sound like much, but they are also one of the most reliable luxury brands. As for VW? In Europe, they're obviously doing something right, because they consistently land at least two vehicles on the "most reliable" list.

Anyway, what's the point of bringing VW into this? You would be going crazy if we were talking about VW and then I mentioned Toyota's recent issues.

Obliv - 10/25/2007 8:24:45 PM

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Anyone that actually thinks the Camry is attractive is nobody id want to meet.

Agent004 - 10/20/2007 4:35:41 PMView My AgentSpace

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Agent004 - 10/20/2007 4:36:27 PMView My AgentSpace

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Oops, sorry, I fell asleep on my keyboard looking at this car.

DaHarder - 10/20/2007 5:12:07 PM

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Then I would think that the Camry would have already placed you in the aforementioned (sleep) state, and the 2008 Accord would have rendered you Comatose by now!

Note: Thanks for the constructive contribution to the discussion... NOT!

utahnkid - 10/20/2007 7:10:29 PM

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... yet you still managed to put spaces in between? What were you expecting? A Ferrari? This is a mid size family sedan..

ICON - 10/20/2007 7:21:19 PM

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I think you have been in a coma for quite a while...no news there.

Htay7500 - 10/20/2007 4:39:17 PM

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those taillites look very diamante-ish.

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lexusis350 - 10/20/2007 4:54:59 PM

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I'm not a big fan of the interior. The outside is okay, but definitely not the best looking mid-sized sedan, that's for sure.

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AgentOrange - 10/20/2007 5:09:02 PMView My AgentSpace

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For the money, I'd say it IS the best looking mid-sized....

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seevemonka - 10/20/2007 5:19:55 PM

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Yes I do Agree. GM is definitely making a comeback with the cts, Aura & Malibu. The Malibu and cts are a statement from GM that they are serious about improving their interiors. The cts and Aura are statements that they are also serious about the driving dynamics. Lets hope that GM keeps it up.

DaHarder - 10/20/2007 5:39:11 PM

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With the notable exception of the tail-light lenses (which can be easily redesigned), this vehicle is very handsome, as it has

1 - Beautiful Proportions

2- Artful Sculpturing Throughout

3 - A Pleasantly Distinctive Front Fascia/Face

4 - A Muscular Stance

5 - A Very Tasteful use of 'Bright-Work'

6 - Wonderfully Realized Interior.

Nothing on this vehicle looks the least bit pretentious, yet it still looks very elegant/classy.

What other vehicles in this segment can match those (stylistic) attributes?

1 - Accord - Honda tried way too hard this time to make this thing look sporty, and instead came up with a design that lacks any 'cohesion' what-so-ever, and of all the vehicles to copy from, why the Chrysler Sebring 'slash' on the sides? The ugliest vehicle in it's class!

2 - Camry - Horrible stance, very strange 'character-lines throughout, ungainly light-designs, and that 'Bird Beak' is just awful!

3 - Altima - Handsome but flawed by those ridiculous tail-lights that travel too far up the sides of the vehicle, and the fact that Nissan really played it way too safe this time around, as it looks far too similar to the outgoing model.

4 - Mazda6 - If ours looks anything like the Euro version... A Solid Hit!

S4cabriofoxone - 10/20/2007 5:43:06 PMView My AgentSpace

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DaHarder, the new Malibu is definitely attractive, but I think it has LS460 syndrome. They over-polished every aspect of the design, so it now borders on bland as opposed to interesting or cutting-edge. The Camry and Accord at least draw controversy.

After seeing the LS460 on the road for a few months (earlier this year), though, I came to the conclusion that it is a beautiful design. Perhaps the same can be said about the Malibu when I see it on the road.

dmvnt - 10/22/2007 9:23:41 AM

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"and of all the vehicles to copy from, why the Chrysler Sebring 'slash' on the sides?"

First, it's a Honda/Acura styling cue inspired by the Acura TL. Second, the Accord has been in development for several years, and would not have the time to suddenly steal a design cue from a 2007 model in time for a 2008. Dial your anti-Honda bias down a notch or two and perhaps your posts will have a little bit of credibility.

DaHarder - 10/22/2007 1:59:10 PM

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Hey! Calm down...

I'm not anti-anything, except Anti-Bad Design, and To Me & Many Others...

The 2008 Accord Is Ugly... Especially the sedan.

Note: It's ok to have people NOT share your opinion, it doesn't make you a bad person... Geez!

zorbeeze - 10/22/2007 10:05:09 PM

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" the Accord has been in development for several years, and would not have the time to suddenly steal a design cue from a 2007 model in time for a 2008"

Ah yes i forgot that the Accord is the only car that's in development years before it's actually sold to the public. Yes Chrysler hasn't spent years developing their cars. They go to the drawing board and the next day start marketing the car.

dmvnt - 10/23/2007 9:39:50 AM

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"Ah yes i forgot that the Accord is the only car that's in development years before it's actually sold to the public. Yes Chrysler hasn't spent years developing their cars. They go to the drawing board and the next day start marketing the car."

That's not what I was saying. Nowhere did I say that any other manufacturer doesn't spend years developing their cars. The only point was that the amount of lead time in designs for any new car makes it unlikely that a styling cue from another model from a previous year will be added to a newly released car.

Jesus, calm down and stop reading things between the lines that aren't there!

And besides, as I pointed out, the obvious inspiration came from within Honda's own ranks, from the Acura TL which has had such a character line for 5 model years. Not from the Sebring.

dmvnt - 10/23/2007 9:45:35 AM

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"I'm not anti-anything, except Anti-Bad Design, and To Me & Many Others..."

I'm not either, and to me and many others, the new Malibu is boring and derivative. And you would have thought that after the previous generation Malibu, Chevy would have learned their lesson about putting a front end inspired by their trucks on a family sedan. Talk about ugly!

AND to me and many others, the Accord's new styling is very attractive. Certainly sportier than the dreary Malibu.

MeanVulcan - 10/20/2007 5:40:24 PM

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hmmmm... NO!

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Mate - 10/20/2007 5:47:09 PM

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The new Honda Accord is better lookin'

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DaHarder - 10/20/2007 5:53:19 PM

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Please... Elaborate?

lexusis350 - 10/21/2007 5:00:40 PM

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I have to agree. I saw the 2008 Accord in person and it's by far the best looking in it's class. A lot of people say it's disproportioned, but I really think it's nice looking. For example, I like the over-enlarged headlights. It gives the Accord a distinct appearance and still has the Honda flavor to it's design. The back of the car is elegant and looks like something that would belong to a more upscale class of vehicles. The only complaints about the Accord I have are the fact that it doesn't have a SmartAccess system, ventilated seats, or a 6-speed automatic transmission. If the Accord came with those three things, it would excel beyond anything that could compete with it. It has the engine, looks, luxury, and safety; all it needs is a few more options and it would be the perfect family sedan.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/22/2007 11:51:44 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yes, I've seen a few of the new Accords and especially from the side, it looks very upscale. The thing that bothers me about the Malibu's design is that it's a little too timid. The Camry and Accord push the envelope for the mid-sized class in terms of design, if you've ever heard anyone say something like that before. They both look more expensive than they are; dare I say, the Camry looks like a Lexus and the Accord looks better than an Acura.

mikeydred20 - 10/20/2007 5:57:27 PM

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I see alot of Acura TL influence in this vechicle. Overall it looks good. I just want to know have they improved on the engine, I could never forget a co-op at my job had one a few years back and was bragging about it being a V6 only problem is it only had 150 HP. They also don't age well and I do not see this overtaking Accord or Camry.

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DaHarder - 10/20/2007 6:33:30 PM

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Yes, the general shape/look of the c-pillar has appeared in vehicles from the Acrua TL to the VW Phaeton, and it still looks good...

Especially here.

DaHarder - 10/20/2007 6:41:17 PM

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One doesn't have to look back too far to find a time when the Olds Cutlass Supreme (1970's) or Ford Taurus (mid-late 1980/early 1990's) and several other U.S. vehicles (in all its many guises) outsold everything on the planet.

But then again, to some of the audience here (obviously adolescents/teenagers/very early adulthood), even going back to the turn of the century seems like an eternity.

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DaHarder - 10/20/2007 6:44:23 PM

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In addition, if you had read the tagline, it specifically asked,

"Have the Americans stolen the crown back for the best LOOKING mid-size sedan?"

To which, my response would be a resounding YES!

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DaHarder - 10/21/2007 12:26:44 PM

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Faulty math aside (40 years?), it was but the 1990's when the Chrysler LX-platform mates were regarded as some of the most dynamic/handsome sedans on the road with their 'cab-forward' styling.

Even today, many see the LX-triplets as leading-edge designs, which I'm certain is why they're so numerous in/on U.S. garages and roadways.

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Agent001 - 10/20/2007 6:06:02 PMView My AgentSpace

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I see some original Infiniti Q45 on the rear profile and roof line.

001

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rg12345 - 10/20/2007 6:51:51 PM

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I like what I see.. inside and outside .. it's a good looking car.

utahnkid - 10/20/2007 6:56:16 PM

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I dunno about that interior.. I could see it being pretty nice or pretty tacky. And that copper color looks like something you might regret a couple years into owning and realizing its the same shade as a hookers eye liner.

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porsche911 - 10/20/2007 7:56:44 PM

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The exterior is very good. The interior is excellent. I like it. This car should pull up the sales for the company...it has all the necessary attributes to succeed in this market. Are they coming up with a Maxx version of the Malibu this time, because that would be nice.

One problem though...I think This car shares the underpinnings with the current Saturn Aura, etc. and those are being replaced with a new platform, so in reality, this car is actually soon, going to be a generation old, underneath. It will still drive beautifully and will remain a very good car, but, for those who care, it will be, underneath, the same as the soon-to-be-replaced Saturn Aura, etc.

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DaHarder - 10/20/2007 10:50:02 PM

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The 2010 Aura/Vectra will be using a 'slightly revised' version of this same platform, not an entirely new one...

Someone correct me if I've misinformed.

Will_ - 10/20/2007 8:45:34 PM

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The interior is where this car shines. The exterior is okay, but I wouldn't make any stretches about it being significantly "better" than any other car in the class. Back to the interior, if GM has been able to replicate the interior quality of the Japanese then I believe that will get it the most acclaim.

But if only buyers in this segment put looks above everything else...

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gryphon - 10/20/2007 9:41:24 PM

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I think the Malibu handily beats the Camry and Accord in looks. However, that's not a hard task at all. The market will be judge of whether it beats either or both in performance, reliability, and - most importantly - sales.

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the_gamper - 10/20/2007 10:39:45 PM

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It looks real good. Marginally better than Accord at least in terms of style. Makes the Camry look like a reject from a Grade School art class. GM is certainly on a roll, their new products have all been at least strong contenders putting them right in the thick of it with the Japanese for the first time in a long time.

Ford on the other hand, is still wrestling with the bad decisions made years ago for future products. I think they finally know it is going to take to change their fortunes and have summoned the will to do it. Unfortunately it may not be until the beginning of the next decade that we will see the full results. In the meantime they have a few decent vehciles taht can compete but still lag behind. Hope they can hold out until until the next gen of vehicles hit.

Chrysler, on the other hand, hasnt really showed that it has fully recognized the problem or that it knows how to fix it. The last few year seem to be a succession of miscalculations and almost comical product planning.

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DaHarder - 10/20/2007 11:08:46 PM

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The funny thing about Chrysler is that they seemed unstoppable when the 300/Magnum debuted, and then they introduced clunker after clunker...

Caliber, Compass, Dakota, Sebring, Commander and on and on.

Strange from the American car company that (arguably) produced some of the best looking vehicles on the road only a decade ago.

I guess it's GM's time to shine...

bambamsd - 10/20/2007 10:56:15 PMView My AgentSpace

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I've taken a critical eye to the Malibu and I like what I see. This is the first domestic auto that has caught my eye in a long time. They will do very well with this car.

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jt716 - 10/20/2007 11:04:36 PMView My AgentSpace

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Looks very awkward exactly what you would expect from GM. I still think the Fusion wins on exterior looks compared to the Camry, Accord, and Malibu. Then again everyone has their own opinions.

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pchera01 - 10/21/2007 12:33:50 AM

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No, but better than Accord and Altima

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DaHarder - 10/21/2007 12:50:53 AM

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Really... I request that you might want to look again:

http://www.chevrolet.com/malibu/?c=MalibuDisrupt_OLA