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How Will Japan's Failing Love Affair With The Automobile Affect The World?

Kimiyuki Suda should be a perfect customer for Japan's carmakers. He's a young (34), successful executive at an Internet-services company in Tokyo and has plenty of disposable income. He used to own Toyota's Hilux Surf, a sport utility vehicle. But now he uses mostly subways and trains. "It's not inconvenient at all," he says. Besides, "having a car is so 20th century."

Suda reflects a worrisome trend in Japan; the automobile is losing its emotional appeal, particularly among the young, who prefer to spend their money on the latest electronic gadgets. While minicars and luxury foreign brands are still popular, everything in between is slipping. Last year sales fell 6.7 percent—7.6 percent if you don't count the minicar market. There have been larger one-year drops in other nations: sales in Germany fell 9 percent in 2007 thanks to a tax hike. But analysts say Japan is unique in that sales have been eroding steadily over time. Since 1990, yearly new-car sales have fallen from 7.8 million to 5.4 million units in 2007.

Alarmed by this state of decay, the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association launched a comprehensive study of the market in 2006. It found a widening wealth gap, demographic changes—fewer households with children, a growing urban population—and general lack of interest in cars led Japanese to hold their vehicles longer, replace their cars with smaller ones or give up car ownership altogether.
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How Will Japan's Failing Love Affair With The Automobile Affect The World?



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TurboSpyderTurboSpyder - 5/23/2008 12:27:07 PMView My AgentSpace
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Japanese manufacturers make 60% of their profits from the American market so I guess they'll do more of what they've always done such as trying to keep their currency as weak as possible relative to the US dollar.

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abcdabcd - 5/23/2008 4:49:24 PM
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TurboSpyder:
"such as trying to keep their currency as weak as possible relative to the US dollar."

I really don`t understand why they could want to keep yen weak . to earn more yens ? for what when they have that same amount of dollars from more yens so they are on the same . only thing they want (and everyone else) is stability of currency . in japan workers are earning money on the same level as in USA and europe if currency is stable , no matter what is the value of yen (they have more or less yens but that same amount of dollars,euros). japan haven`t any natural resources , they are buying it from other countries , if they would keep yen down to dollar they must simply pay more yens . so for what japenese have wanted to hold yen down like you say and heard from other sources ? in my opinion this is propaganda from some automakers to " masses would believe in that " . or have you any logical explanation for weak yen ? maybe i`m wrong ?



_43LE_43LE - 5/23/2008 9:43:30 PM
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abcd,

Remember that this is turbo/sport/midengine that you're talking to. He's well known here for one sided, narrow minded arguments and quoting things without all the facts, just to make his argument look better.



damikcodamikco - 5/26/2008 10:16:58 PMView My AgentSpace
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A weak yen makes japanees products cheaper in the states


answeranswer - 5/23/2008 12:27:21 PMView My AgentSpace
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Well, if there aren't a lot of open/fun roads to drive on, and parking is impossible and/or expensive, what do people really expect?



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rumnycrumnyc - 5/24/2008 8:02:20 AM
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well i live in japan and they seriously love their cars. Tokyo is far more car friendly than NYC (live have lived in both cities with cars). They have race tracks and track days regularly and you see every hardcore car you can imagine as regular cars...


TurboSpyderTurboSpyder - 5/23/2008 12:36:24 PMView My AgentSpace
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"Automobiles used to represent a symbol of our status, a Western, modern lifestyle that we aspired for," says Kitamura. For today's young people, he argues, "such thinking is completely gone."

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GTR35GTR35 - 5/23/2008 2:24:35 PMView My AgentSpace
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Definitely not if you live in L.A., as far as the young peoples' comment goes. Here in the south land, having a car is a must for the majority of the people and the nicer car the most respect and envy you will get. A land of poor public transportation combined with lots of spoiled brats and gold digging women leads to young people owning the coolest cars available.
I'm sure this would all change some day but as of now, here, the cooler your ride the more respect you will get.



M35MTM35MT - 5/24/2008 11:31:22 AMView My AgentSpace
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"Japanese demographics have something to do with the problem. The country's urban population has grown by nearly 20 percent since 1990, and most city dwellers use mass transit (the country's system is one of the best developed in the world) on a daily basis, making it less essential to own a car. Experts say Europe, where the car market is also quite mature, may be in for a similar shift."

The above is closer to the culture in Boston, which is the opposite of what you experience in LA.



fuelfoolfuelfool - 5/23/2008 4:42:37 PM
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"Somebody has to sacrifice to make gas cheap for us spoiled americans."

Ummm, no.

My 6 year old nephew has a more sophisticated understanding of economics than you. No one "sacrifices" to make gas relatively cheaper in the US. Nor does some other nation's economy have to suffer for ours to prosper. That's not how market economies work. It's not a zero sum game. For godsakes, please don't vote until you read a decent book on economics. Milton friedman would be a good start.


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fuelfoolfuelfool - 5/23/2008 4:44:05 PM
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$10 (or two and a half gallons of gas) says you must be an Obama supporter.

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Htay7500Htay7500 - 5/23/2008 7:17:48 PM
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"I know India and China ain't about to stop buying cars just so americans can go back to $1.79 a gallon."

the days of cheap gas are over, unless you live in saudi arabia or anywhere in the region where gas is less than a dollar. as chinas and indias economy grows, their demand for oil increases along with the prices of gas in many countries. when theres little or no demand, then we see some relief. now, we have to deal $4 a gal.



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BMW995BMW995 - 5/23/2008 1:34:14 PM
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With Japan's auto taxes 4 times that in the U.S., no wonder auto sales continue to fall. Gasoline prices in Japan are above $6/gal (not nearly as high as in Europe where it's above $8/gal).

Also, Japan doesn't have the greatest need to drive by auto with their great rail system.


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PorschinatorPorschinator - 5/23/2008 2:16:06 PM
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Most Auto companies rely on the US auto Market. Everywhere else is just more icing on the cake.

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PorschinatorPorschinator - 5/23/2008 2:21:23 PM
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I wish I could use the transit. But life in Japan is much different than the US. Everything is spread out in the US and taking the train would be inconvenient and take forever to get to work :-P


LexSucksLexSucks - 5/23/2008 3:59:19 PM
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Since when does Japan dictate how the rest of the world views cars?

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auto001auto001 - 5/23/2008 4:54:18 PM
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Because they are an advanced nation brimming with innovation, who are more open minded about change, and is willing to evolve :) (US is a close second though..)


ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 5/24/2008 6:19:47 AM
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since the japanese propaganda cartoon Speed Racer crept into the consciousness here, and finally conquered hollywood too!



LexSucksLexSucks - 5/24/2008 11:37:44 AM
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I hope this doesn't mean that we'll all be driving 55hp micro-cars with weird names? As long as there are people who value performance and handling there will be car companies to cater to those individuals. Japan isn't the Mecca of Automobiles.

And like someone else said, US roads aren't as crowded as japans and our public transportation system sucks. Our situation is completely different.

I can't believe that I got de-boosted. It must be my screen-name. Either that or people are admitting that they rely on other groups of people to make their car buying decisions for them. Talk about lemmings. Or maybe the folks that de-boosted me are Japanese? :-)




zorbeezezorbeeze - 5/26/2008 1:06:24 PM
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"and our public transportation system sucks."

That is not a good thing. Your government should be working hard to change that not be happy that it is like that.



hao420hao420 - 5/23/2008 11:08:48 PM
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Is that a Toyota Century V12 in above picture???

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ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 5/24/2008 6:25:06 AM
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i believe so.

they should export more of 'em, and compete with RR. as long as they're challenging porsche and ferrari...




mercuryguymercuryguy - 5/24/2008 1:48:29 AM
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In many US cities, subways and rapid transit are not an option because big Oil and Big Auto eliminated these options for us.

Secondly, with rampant crime in many US cities, many people just won’t take the chance on public transit. As the poverty grows our inner cities become 3rd world nations. Some cities are becoming war zones, with drive by shootings an gun crime a common daily occurrence.

Obviously I'm not referring to cities like New York, where public transit is a huge success.


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autoproautopro - 5/24/2008 11:13:45 AMView My AgentSpace
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We may all need to re-think what were driving.Most of you were not around in the 70's when we had long gas lines and all Mfg's stared building smaller 4-cyl cars.The industry may need to do the same thing if gas prices keep rising as fast as they have.

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LexSucksLexSucks - 5/24/2008 6:44:11 PM
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Even during the Opec Oil crisis in the early seventies automotive manufactures were still producing V8's and other gas guzzling engines.

The 4-cylinder cars didn't replace the V8s. High Fuel prices aren't going enough to force everyone into Geo-Metros and Toyota Yaris's.

I'm by no means rich. The fuel prices would have to be triple of what they are know in order for me to have a serious problem with it. And at that point, even a 4-cylinder car (or a hybrid) will empty the average persons wallet.



mercuryguymercuryguy - 5/26/2008 2:17:38 AM
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Many people tell me, before you plan on trading your car for a Focus or Fusion, see if you fit inside one. I’m a thin guy, and these cars are tight. My dad has arthritis, he simply can not bend his neck to clear the sloping a pillar. Even the rear seat is a challenge for him.

Everyone has V^ or 4 cylinder on the brain, but think of the compromise. My Chrysler 300 has the base V^. The car just coughs going through the hills of Pennsylvania. The transmission labors and constantly downshifts to compensate. I doubt this car will last long based upon how hard you have to push the engine to get it to perform, and this is not a very big car folks.

Then there are the safety issues of small cars in accidents. We all hear about crumple zones, but just look at the people extracted from these death traps after an accident. Often they have to tarp these cars as the occupants clearly didn’t make it.


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ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 5/28/2008 4:45:05 AM
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design of the passenger cell determines survival rates, not sheer size.

crash tests have shown intrusions into the passenger cell of some FULL SIZE pickups. while some COMPACT cars have had their passenger cells remain intact in the same crashes.

further, it's been demonstrated that SUVs also have a higher rollover rate. and many have passenger cells little better than pickups'. due to their superior MANUEVERABILITY, compacts are also less inclined to BE involved in accidents to begin with.





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