Hyundai to halt U.S. production for 10 days in Q4

Why are you such a Hyundai-hater? Are you just "scared" that they will topple ToyLex? Their cars are completely inoffensive.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/10/2007 8:19:41 PM | | Votes: 1   

Nope, here are the reasons I hate them:

1. They compare their un-prestigious cars to cars that have worked for years building a name for themselves. Take for example the Sonata and 528i. They compared those two and made it seem like the Sonata was better. Take a look on the inside of the car. It's crap. They also compared an Azera to an LS 460. Once again, less advanced and a lot more ugly. They just make me mad when they consider themselves more than an affordable puddle jumper. They also compared the Santa Fe to a Landrover LR3 and the Veracruz to an RX.

2. They aren't good cars. Sure, they MIGHT have changed, but the Hyundai I've always know has been a car that lasts a few thousand miles and then it's off to the shop they go. They claim to have changed, but there are no real facts to their long-term success.

3. They can't compare, even to the cars in their class. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc. all have navigation systems available, some even have SmartKey available. Hyundai hasn't even taken the time to develop a navigation system. I don't know about you, but to me, that seems like they're not in the business for customer satisfaction.

4. People buy them, then realize the mistake they made. People see their advertisements: long warranty, decent powered engines, and supposed good reliability. After a year or two of owning it, they trade it in for a new or even used car. All of the used car lots around where I live are packed full of used Sonatas, Accents, Elantras, and Santa Fes. So add the fact that they're deceiving to the list.

Basically to sum it up, I hate Hyundai because they toot their own horn. I don't appreciate arrogance, especially when they're wrong and hurt other people financially because of it.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/10/2007 9:44:33 PM | | Votes: 0   

By the way, everyone I know who owns a Hyundai hates it. I know a girl who has a brand new Sonata and she said after a month the fun wore off and she hates it now. She said there's no satisfaction in owning a Hyundai and I have to say that I agree.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/10/2007 9:47:35 PM | | Votes: 0   

You probably inculcated so much Anti-Hyundai rhetoric into her impressionable brain that she was left with no choice but to jump on your (unsubstantiated) bandwagon.

Note: If you don't care for Hyundai's efforts, then simply avoid any/all posts/threads that references them... Easy - Yes?

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/10/2007 10:22:39 PM | | Votes: 1   

No, I actually just met her. I saw her car and said "You drive a Hyundai?!" and she said, "Don't make fun of me. I don't even like it anymore." So no, I didn't implant my Anti-Hyundai facts into her brains, she saw the car for what it was herself.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/10/2007 11:34:31 PM | | Votes: 0   

fact /fækt/ Pronunciation[fakt] –noun

1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.

Note: I thought I'd help you out since you obviously have no idea what the word means.

Yours, my fellow poster, are but mere opinions... Nothing More!

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 12:47:26 AM | | Votes: 1   

I have a couple of Hyundais in my warehouse that will put your IS to shame. Your comments are based on nothing but ignorance. I expect more from a so called high end car owner. www.importhark.com

— importshark (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 2:56:01 PM | | Votes: 1   

Look at me making a point and screwing up the web addy. importshark.com

— importshark (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 2:58:11 PM | | Votes: 1   

"They compare their un-prestigious cars to cars that have worked for years building a name for themselves."

If you take that seriously... and take offense to it... well, the joke's on you.

"They aren't good cars."

Guess who's creeping up to Toyota in the JD Power rankings? Yup, the round "H."

"They can't compare, even to the cars in their class."

Let's just say I disagree. The only I find inherently uninteresting is the Sonata; the Santa Fe, Azera and Veracruz are appealing. If you think the re-bodied Highlander that the RX is deserves more respect than the ground-up Veracruz... well, it doesn't. This is coming from an RX330 owner. It's not an amazing car. Neither is the Veracruz- but it's a better value.

"People buy them, then realize the mistake they made."

Why are they so high in consumer satisfaction?

Look, I'm no Hyundai-lover, but give respect where respect is due.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 8:28:01 PM | | Votes: 0   

S4, I do take offense to that. Hypothetically, how would you feel if they compared their Tiburon to an S4 because it has the same amount of power for less than half the price? You know as well as I do that the S4 is more than power, just like the LS is more than parking itself. The S4 is also about performance and luxury. The Tiburon would probably roll if you tried to go around a hairpin curve at a high speed and don't even get me started on the appearance of the interior. If the joke's on me, that's fine. I won't ever appreciate anything Hyundai has if they compare themselves to cars that are out of their league. They need to come to terms that they aren't a luxury/sport brand.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 10:35:30 PM | | Votes: 1   

It (the Santa Fe) is indeed their flagship SUV, the Veracruz is a CrossOver...

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/10/2007 10:24:36 PM | | Votes: 1   

Wow. What a sad little world you must live in.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 12:20:05 AM | | Votes: -2   

Once again... ^^^^^

If you don't care for Hyundai's efforts, then simply avoid any/all posts/threads that references them...

Easy - Yes?

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 12:49:48 AM | | Votes: 2   

Antony, stop talking from your @$$. You can't prove that. In fact, I'm almost 27, I own a Lexus IS 350 and a Lexus LS 460. I've had my license for over 10 years. If that's too much for you to comprehend, then I suggest you find something better to do with your time that harass me.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 5:51:58 PM | | Votes: 0   

DaHarder, if it bothers you so much that I hate Hyundai, then ignore any/all posts/threads that I comment on. Easy-Yes!

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 5:55:12 PM | | Votes: 0   

"...I'm almost 27, I own a Lexus IS 350 and a Lexus LS 460."

Pictures, please.

27 years old, $40K Lexus and $70K Lexus. It doesn't add up. What do you do, sell drugs? Or did you just get a great lease deal?

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 8:30:01 PM | | Votes: 0   

No, I started into real estate when I was 19. Here are my cars:

http://www.autospies.com/users/lexusis350/gallery/My-Cars/264/

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 10:21:02 PM | | Votes: 1   

I agree with Neutral - Hyundai/Kia has spent and continues to spend the big $$$ to develop and build quality vehicles. Every import automaker stumbles into the American market. I can remember the early 70's when "Made in Japan outta old beer cans" was the statement most people made after a Honda, Toyota, or Datsun past by on the street. There's quality behind that Hyundai oval - it takes time, effort, and piles of money to make a good car, a very good car - like the Sonata - takes a little more! Is that they are investing resources into employing Americans with the
USA plant. I really love my Sonata!

— Mike2244 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/12/2007 1:20:26 PM | | Votes: 0   

^ Good points all,though I feel the last comment was completely unnecessary as I seriously doubt that the individual in question even owns an automobile...

Hyundai or otherwise.

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 2:05:35 AM | | Votes: 2   

Well at least someone agrees with me. Thanks AlexApex. Audis don't bother me, but I can definitely tell where you're coming from on that issue.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 5:57:06 PM | | Votes: 0   

"such RIDICULOUS comparisons. i simply DETESTED those ads. and NEVER had any respect for audis ever since."

Wow. Sad. Denying yourself of such amazing cars because of simple ads as a little kid. Traumatizing, really.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 8:32:05 PM | | Votes: 1   

"the german big 3 were NOT always LUXURY cars. up thru roughly the same time period, bmw and mb were sorta in the pontiac and buick class. (vw was the 'chevy of europe' but even cheaper.) decidedly LESS CAR than the caddys and lincolns of that era."

But where are they now? Don't live in the past. Cadillac is playing catch-up. Lincoln is... not even doing anything.

Mercedes-Benz has in fact always made luxury cars, and BMW, mostly. Audi has made anything from mid-level (DKW, Wanderer, etc) to Rolls-Royce-esque (Horch). Right now they're in between. I think it would be interesting if they brought the Horch name back, à la Maybach but better. The problem? Bentley. It won't happen.

"lexus at least has ALWAYS had the CONTENT and state of the art ENGINEERING to justify their luxury status."

Since when does Lexus's first car--the ES250--merit praise for its high-engineering? More than any ES model to date, it was a completely re-badged Camry.

The random CAPITALIZATION in your posts is starting to annoy me.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/11/2007 8:35:00 PM | | Votes: 1