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Boost it!
Agent009 submitted on 9/13/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 12:27:11 PM
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No doubt the new A5 is a hit with most of the hardcore fans. But is the new Citroen C-Airscape a better rendition of the theme? Overall in our opinion the design is much cleaner and far more integrated than even the upcoming A4. Maybe Audi stylist need to take a peek over Citroen's shoulder a bit more next time! Check out the shots below and tell us which is better looking the new A5 or the C-Airscape! Enjoy the best photo coverage of the 2007 Frankfurt auto show. This year's gallery is sponsored by our friends at Texaco. Special thanks to them! 2007 Frankfurt Auto Show Photo Gallery
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The Airscape is a beautiful car no doubt, but perhaps you forget this is a concept. I doubt the car produced will be as elegant. In the future i would not compare a concept to a production car. Its not fare. The A5 is unmistakably Audi, and itself is a sexy modern design. I think it turned out great.— PureBMW (View Profile)
The Airscape is a beautiful car no doubt, but perhaps you forget this is a concept. I doubt the car produced will be as elegant. In the future i would not compare a concept to a production car. Its not fare. The A5 is unmistakably Audi, and itself is a sexy modern design. I think it turned out great.
— PureBMW (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 12:52:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 11
Well said!— Need4Speed (View Profile)
Well said!
— Need4Speed (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:03:51 PM | | Votes: 2
Preach on Brother!! Whoa… Um, yeah, hey 009, I hear ya’, both cars are beautiful but ‘PureBMW’ does make an excellent point.Next time Gadget… next time!— Airliner (View Profile)
Preach on Brother!! Whoa… Um, yeah, hey 009, I hear ya’, both cars are beautiful but ‘PureBMW’ does make an excellent point.Next time Gadget… next time!
— Airliner (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:15:11 PM | | Votes: 1
"FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE KILLED THE SPORTS CAR" How can Audi be compared to BMW when it sells V8 front-wheel drive sports cars! — GLover (View Profile)
"FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE KILLED THE SPORTS CAR" How can Audi be compared to BMW when it sells V8 front-wheel drive sports cars!
— GLover (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 4:20:35 PM | | Votes: -5
Audi doesn't sell any front wheel drive V8 powered cars in the US. — Neverfollow (View Profile)
Audi doesn't sell any front wheel drive V8 powered cars in the US.
— Neverfollow (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 4:35:48 PM | | Votes: 1
It doesn't sell any anywhere, all V8s are quattro equipped. — Rupert (View Profile)
It doesn't sell any anywhere, all V8s are quattro equipped.
— Rupert (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 5:00:52 PM | | Votes: 3
This Citroen is a better match for Hyundai, the rear lights are too cartoonish for a classy car such as Audi. They make it look flashy and shiny at the show but I'm sure the production version will look uglier and the bad dimensional proportions will be more noticeable. Sorry, but the Audi is in a design class way above this cartoon car.— MeanVulcan (View Profile)
This Citroen is a better match for Hyundai, the rear lights are too cartoonish for a classy car such as Audi. They make it look flashy and shiny at the show but I'm sure the production version will look uglier and the bad dimensional proportions will be more noticeable. Sorry, but the Audi is in a design class way above this cartoon car.
— MeanVulcan (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2007 7:14:17 AM | | Votes: 4
Audi should look at the Toyota Solara Coupe for a perfectly styled and executed design. The Solara has elegance written all over it from every angle. It looks very European and sporty and elegant.The A5 looks fat and like Misses Piggy.— david989 (View Profile)
Audi should look at the Toyota Solara Coupe for a perfectly styled and executed design. The Solara has elegance written all over it from every angle. It looks very European and sporty and elegant.The A5 looks fat and like Misses Piggy.
— david989 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:22:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -23
But, the Audi is European?The Solara is a 2 door boring Camry.— EL34 (View Profile)
But, the Audi is European?The Solara is a 2 door boring Camry.
— EL34 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:32:23 PM | | Votes: 3
I have never heard anyone say the Camry is boring, except dumb and hateful German fanboys who can't accept that a Camry is quicker and handles better than a BMW 330i or 335i.— david989 (View Profile)
I have never heard anyone say the Camry is boring, except dumb and hateful German fanboys who can't accept that a Camry is quicker and handles better than a BMW 330i or 335i.
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:40:17 PM | | Votes: -24
BMWs are so overrated and they all looke ugly and bland.— david989 (View Profile)
BMWs are so overrated and they all looke ugly and bland.
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:49:42 PM | | Votes: -21
I guess this proves the notion that reasonable men will disagree on matters of taste and style. I think the Solara coupe looks horrible, like it was cobbled together from different cars. As for the other two (both of which will be out of my price range, so, well....), to me the Citroen looks chunky, where the A5 looks taught and athletic.— finishline (View Profile)
I guess this proves the notion that reasonable men will disagree on matters of taste and style. I think the Solara coupe looks horrible, like it was cobbled together from different cars. As for the other two (both of which will be out of my price range, so, well....), to me the Citroen looks chunky, where the A5 looks taught and athletic.
— finishline (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:59:40 PM | | Votes: 6
Solora and elegence, do not belong in the same sentence. — no1listensanyway (View Profile)
Solora and elegence, do not belong in the same sentence.
— no1listensanyway (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 2:26:34 PM | | Votes: 5
I wish the site had a way for legitimate posters to vote to ban IDs that post retarded comments like these. Comments for and against certain products are fine, but these ones are just plain annoying.— A4ORCE (View Profile)
I wish the site had a way for legitimate posters to vote to ban IDs that post retarded comments like these. Comments for and against certain products are fine, but these ones are just plain annoying.
— A4ORCE (View Profile)
Posted on 9/16/2007 6:03:58 AM | | Votes: 2
david989 toyota/lexus changes car every 3 to 4 years to keep interest. toyota/lexus are trendy. they have never displayed a design or signature look.— Dr550 (View Profile)
david989 toyota/lexus changes car every 3 to 4 years to keep interest. toyota/lexus are trendy. they have never displayed a design or signature look.
— Dr550 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:34:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6
Throw that bong away man! Lexus and Toyota cars are design leaders. Not many people like to admit that because they're so jealous of the global success Toyota and Lexus are enjoying.— david989 (View Profile)
Throw that bong away man! Lexus and Toyota cars are design leaders. Not many people like to admit that because they're so jealous of the global success Toyota and Lexus are enjoying.
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:38:28 PM | | Votes: -19
Unfortunately david989 defies commonsense.— daytonaviolet (View Profile)
Unfortunately david989 defies commonsense.
— daytonaviolet (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 2:04:58 PM | | Votes: 9
there is a difference between a production car and a concept (dont forget its not just the design that matters but also the quality) — Audi4Life (View Profile)
there is a difference between a production car and a concept (dont forget its not just the design that matters but also the quality)
— Audi4Life (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:35:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
the roof line of the citroen looks a little to much like the volvo c70 to me... however the A5 is a pure German coupe with great balance and proportion... as for a solara coupe, well it is still a tubby front wheel drive hulk...— CarbonBlue (View Profile)
the roof line of the citroen looks a little to much like the volvo c70 to me... however the A5 is a pure German coupe with great balance and proportion... as for a solara coupe, well it is still a tubby front wheel drive hulk...
— CarbonBlue (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 1:37:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7
Not only A5 but the new A4 is also very average looking.They should have looked more sharp and revolutionary.JUGNU— JUGNU (View Profile)
Not only A5 but the new A4 is also very average looking.They should have looked more sharp and revolutionary.JUGNU
— JUGNU (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 2:30:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3
See the A4e Concept article. It gives a real picture of the front view, and it is easy to gather that it will look much better in person than in Audi's press shots. They have used terribly bland press photos for every model- even the R8.— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)
See the A4e Concept article. It gives a real picture of the front view, and it is easy to gather that it will look much better in person than in Audi's press shots. They have used terribly bland press photos for every model- even the R8.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)
Posted on 9/16/2007 7:29:24 PM | | Votes: 1
HAHAHAHAHAH! Houstonwhatever2000......If BMW´s handling suck, what is there to say about AUDI, or Toyota/Lexus....and a Toyota Camry v6 SE or ANY other Camry whouldn´t do 0-60 in 5.8 sec even if they were twin-turboed! You suck!!!! Go drive a stove!— 4wheelsnme (View Profile)
HAHAHAHAHAH! Houstonwhatever2000......If BMW´s handling suck, what is there to say about AUDI, or Toyota/Lexus....and a Toyota Camry v6 SE or ANY other Camry whouldn´t do 0-60 in 5.8 sec even if they were twin-turboed! You suck!!!! Go drive a stove!
— 4wheelsnme (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 2:37:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
please go away and never come back, houstoncutie.at 3600 llbs with around 270 hp, the 07 camry does a 1/4 mile in 14.3 seconds.at 3600 llbs with only 225 hp, the 05 e46 330i sedan does a 1/4 in around 14.3 seconds with the 325 at 14.7-8 with 198 hp.at roughly 3700 llbs with 300 hp, the 07 e90 335i sedan does a 1/4 in around 13.5 roughly the same as the e46 m3.the new camry is cant even beat the last gen 3 series in speed or handling.take your bs elsewhere.— minimalist (View Profile)
please go away and never come back, houstoncutie.at 3600 llbs with around 270 hp, the 07 camry does a 1/4 mile in 14.3 seconds.at 3600 llbs with only 225 hp, the 05 e46 330i sedan does a 1/4 in around 14.3 seconds with the 325 at 14.7-8 with 198 hp.at roughly 3700 llbs with 300 hp, the 07 e90 335i sedan does a 1/4 in around 13.5 roughly the same as the e46 m3.the new camry is cant even beat the last gen 3 series in speed or handling.take your bs elsewhere.
— minimalist (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 3:27:59 PM | | Votes: 5
"The engine tweaks don't add up to much—the redline goes up 300 rpm to 6800, peak horsepower goes up 10 to 235, and torque goes up eight pound-feet to 222. But a little more thrust and shorter gearing do pay off at the track. Our Performance-package 330i sprinted to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and covered the quarter-mile in 14.3 seconds at 97 mph."here is the link loser:http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6978&page_number=2— minimalist (View Profile)
"The engine tweaks don't add up to much—the redline goes up 300 rpm to 6800, peak horsepower goes up 10 to 235, and torque goes up eight pound-feet to 222. But a little more thrust and shorter gearing do pay off at the track. Our Performance-package 330i sprinted to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and covered the quarter-mile in 14.3 seconds at 97 mph."here is the link loser:http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6978&page_number=2
Posted on 9/13/2007 3:31:43 PM | | Votes: 2
new 335i:"Paired with the standard six-speed transmission, this is sufficient to propel the 3616-pound 335i to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds, with essentially no turbo lag—the tiny hesitation between the time the driver punches the throttle and the onset of full boost. That’s a tenth quicker to 60 mph than was the slightly lighter 335i coupe, an advantage the sedan held through the quarter-mile (13.5 seconds at 106 mph)."here is another link loser:http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/11731/2007-bmw-335i-sedan.html— minimalist (View Profile)
new 335i:"Paired with the standard six-speed transmission, this is sufficient to propel the 3616-pound 335i to 60 mph in 4.8 seconds, with essentially no turbo lag—the tiny hesitation between the time the driver punches the throttle and the onset of full boost. That’s a tenth quicker to 60 mph than was the slightly lighter 335i coupe, an advantage the sedan held through the quarter-mile (13.5 seconds at 106 mph)."here is another link loser:http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/11731/2007-bmw-335i-sedan.html
Posted on 9/13/2007 3:33:47 PM | | Votes: 2
I am on here everyday and I'm getting tired of reading the insane and inciting comments by houstouncutie2000 and david989. They need to be banned!! They never have anything useful to say. Their opinions don't need to be heard! They are not deserving to be here. Get rid of them! Come on Autospies, do something!!— bambamsd (View Profile)
I am on here everyday and I'm getting tired of reading the insane and inciting comments by houstouncutie2000 and david989. They need to be banned!! They never have anything useful to say. Their opinions don't need to be heard! They are not deserving to be here. Get rid of them! Come on Autospies, do something!!
— bambamsd (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 4:35:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4
When I was a proud owner of my 86 Camaro, then 86 Prelude Si, i did not have much money. I loved cars but did not understand why German owners were so passionate about their cars. Because i did not know, and i could not afford, i hated them. WHY oh why would some moron spend so much money on a (then ugly) BMW or Mercedes, when you could get such a better car from Toyota or Honda? You hate what you dont know and what you cant afford. If any reasonable person would test all cars they make comments about im sure half of what they say would be mute. The difference is sophistication. If i have money im gonna buy a BMW, why? Ever hear you get what you pay for? Much like fine wine, fine food, fine clothes. Dont hate cause you cant afford. Also Toyota, Honda, Lexus, they all make excellent cars. It all boils down to what are you looking for and what can you afford. So dont hate.— PureBMW (View Profile)
When I was a proud owner of my 86 Camaro, then 86 Prelude Si, i did not have much money. I loved cars but did not understand why German owners were so passionate about their cars. Because i did not know, and i could not afford, i hated them. WHY oh why would some moron spend so much money on a (then ugly) BMW or Mercedes, when you could get such a better car from Toyota or Honda? You hate what you dont know and what you cant afford. If any reasonable person would test all cars they make comments about im sure half of what they say would be mute. The difference is sophistication. If i have money im gonna buy a BMW, why? Ever hear you get what you pay for? Much like fine wine, fine food, fine clothes. Dont hate cause you cant afford. Also Toyota, Honda, Lexus, they all make excellent cars. It all boils down to what are you looking for and what can you afford. So dont hate.
Posted on 9/13/2007 4:49:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
PureBMW, logic and reason is not acceptable on this site, as you can see from so many other failed attempts.— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)
PureBMW, logic and reason is not acceptable on this site, as you can see from so many other failed attempts.
Posted on 9/16/2007 10:12:15 PM | | Votes: 1
I'm annoyed.— Htay7500 (View Profile)
I'm annoyed.
— Htay7500 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 5:44:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
Please, this is supposed to be a car enthusiast site, commenting on the specifics about Articles. Ie. the citreo looks a little to over the top for their marquee. This car is trying to over do it, when it shouldn't. This car is nowhere near the refined touch of the A5 the Sport coupe, in terms of interior materials options, wood inlays, alcantra leather, silk nappa standard. The face is much sleeker on the A5 than this citreon. Citreon would never mass produce this model. Audi has the years of designing perfection and quality product management over Citreon.You definately get what you pay for with a prestigious auto car...— EnvyofyouRS5 (View Profile)
Please, this is supposed to be a car enthusiast site, commenting on the specifics about Articles. Ie. the citreo looks a little to over the top for their marquee. This car is trying to over do it, when it shouldn't. This car is nowhere near the refined touch of the A5 the Sport coupe, in terms of interior materials options, wood inlays, alcantra leather, silk nappa standard. The face is much sleeker on the A5 than this citreon. Citreon would never mass produce this model. Audi has the years of designing perfection and quality product management over Citreon.You definately get what you pay for with a prestigious auto car...
— EnvyofyouRS5 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 6:15:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4
ummm...did you forget that this is a concept and concepts are always a CLEANER design!— macpowah (View Profile)
ummm...did you forget that this is a concept and concepts are always a CLEANER design!
— macpowah (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 8:42:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1
Then the A5 would look like a Volvo/Subaru...— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)
Then the A5 would look like a Volvo/Subaru...
— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 10:04:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
Why are we saying "should have looked like"? We should have that discussion if the car was already out and did not do well in the market. Despite, I've seen the S5 and A5 in person and they look great - better than in pictures, I think the A5/S5 will be great sellers.— Dustbuster (View Profile)
Why are we saying "should have looked like"? We should have that discussion if the car was already out and did not do well in the market. Despite, I've seen the S5 and A5 in person and they look great - better than in pictures, I think the A5/S5 will be great sellers.
— Dustbuster (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 10:14:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Interesting, david and houston both say that car makers steal designs from Toy/lex and yet then say 'bmw should take lessons in design from toyota...BAD JOKE guys... I sometimes think the owners of this site are those guys because they stir discussion/readership...— Peyton18 (View Profile)
Interesting, david and houston both say that car makers steal designs from Toy/lex and yet then say 'bmw should take lessons in design from toyota...BAD JOKE guys... I sometimes think the owners of this site are those guys because they stir discussion/readership...
— Peyton18 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/13/2007 11:30:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4
Imo the audi looks more elegant overall and it has nicer lines. But this is definatly a very nice vehicle. It should sell alot if the production model came close to this.And people, dont reply to houston and david989, just ignore them and they will go away. — M53R (View Profile)
Imo the audi looks more elegant overall and it has nicer lines. But this is definatly a very nice vehicle. It should sell alot if the production model came close to this.And people, dont reply to houston and david989, just ignore them and they will go away.
— M53R (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2007 2:22:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
regardless lexus(toyota) fans, bmw has a history of design and motor building. i can see some elements trickled down to lexus/infiniti 5 years after debut on bimmers. quite sad actually. — Dr550 (View Profile)
regardless lexus(toyota) fans, bmw has a history of design and motor building. i can see some elements trickled down to lexus/infiniti 5 years after debut on bimmers. quite sad actually.
Posted on 9/14/2007 2:48:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
What were they thinking when designing this Airscape?? It looks like a complete rip-off from Audi! Look at those wheels or the overal lines.— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)
What were they thinking when designing this Airscape?? It looks like a complete rip-off from Audi! Look at those wheels or the overal lines.
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2007 3:14:54 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
I also see some BMW and of course Citroen in it.But no I don't like it.— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)
I also see some BMW and of course Citroen in it.But no I don't like it.
Posted on 9/14/2007 3:15:45 AM | | Votes: 3
The A5 is better looking than the Airscape because Audi has moved the front axle toward the front about 6" which gives it that RWD look. The Citroen design is pure FWD...not good.— BMW995 (View Profile)
The A5 is better looking than the Airscape because Audi has moved the front axle toward the front about 6" which gives it that RWD look. The Citroen design is pure FWD...not good.
— BMW995 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2007 12:05:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
No.— CLK63BlackSeries (View Profile)
No.
— CLK63BlackSeries (View Profile)
Posted on 9/16/2007 1:41:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Posted on 9/16/2007 1:41:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
A definitive NO.That is an unflattering press picture, but the A5 will be dazzling on the road. Classic, gorgeous coupe proportions with a dash of Audi elegance.As many others have stated, it's just strange to compare a French show car to a German sports coupe.— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)
A definitive NO.That is an unflattering press picture, but the A5 will be dazzling on the road. Classic, gorgeous coupe proportions with a dash of Audi elegance.As many others have stated, it's just strange to compare a French show car to a German sports coupe.
Posted on 9/16/2007 10:09:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
Let me join the chorus of dissenters, Agent009. Many members have said that it is unfair to compare a concept car to a production model. Besides, the photos of the Citroen are not shot at the same angle as the Audi photos. One can see the front and right front corner of the Audi, but not the Citroen. One has several views of the Citroen's hindquarters, but that is not the case with the Audi. Best wait until the C-Airscape is in production (if ever) before comparing it to anything else.— Audiphile (View Profile)
Let me join the chorus of dissenters, Agent009. Many members have said that it is unfair to compare a concept car to a production model. Besides, the photos of the Citroen are not shot at the same angle as the Audi photos. One can see the front and right front corner of the Audi, but not the Citroen. One has several views of the Citroen's hindquarters, but that is not the case with the Audi. Best wait until the C-Airscape is in production (if ever) before comparing it to anything else.
— Audiphile (View Profile)
Posted on 9/17/2007 12:27:12 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
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