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Foreign automakers are placing their U. S. factories in the region because of generous incentives and a workforce famously resistant to unions. That's presenting a huge challenge to the once-formidable United Auto Workers.Deric Golden has what he calls his dream job, fixing small flaws on the sedans being churned out at the Hyundai factory here.So when two organizers from the United Auto Workers knocked on his apartment door one day, hoping to get him to sign a union card, he quickly sent them packing.2011 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Photo Gallery2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Coupe Photo Gallery2012 BMW 6-Series Coupe Photo Gallery2011 Geneva Motor Show Photo GalleryLamborghini Showcase Photo GalleryAutoSpies.com Photo GalleriesIf you want to see your photos running on our homepage photo ticker, be sure to upload your photos on the go by sending them to Mobile@AutoSpies.com Share on FacebookRead Article
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Honor thy error as a hidden intention.— Agent009 (View Profile)
Honor thy error as a hidden intention.
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LOL! — Agent009 (View Profile)
LOL!
Posted on 3/29/2011 4:01:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5
"I'm popping my corn now to watch the South rise again and slaughter the Yankee carpetbaggers."- Like they did the last time?— LexSucks (View Profile)
"I'm popping my corn now to watch the South rise again and slaughter the Yankee carpetbaggers."- Like they did the last time?
— LexSucks (View Profile)
Posted on 3/29/2011 5:02:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2
lol, I can imagine the scene— Hoorayforpeepee (View Profile)
lol, I can imagine the scene
— Hoorayforpeepee (View Profile)
Posted on 3/29/2011 2:22:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5
The guys in the pictures above look more like thug and gangster to me than UAW workers. And don't they have a job? It must be nice making $100,000+ a year with benefit and all you have to do is march out with a street sign.I wish I can get a job where I can smoke weed and pot all day and than when I get bore because I did Not a bigger raise than my employers or the guys next to me, I go on strike. (sarcasm intended.)— Lexus (View Profile)
The guys in the pictures above look more like thug and gangster to me than UAW workers. And don't they have a job? It must be nice making $100,000+ a year with benefit and all you have to do is march out with a street sign.I wish I can get a job where I can smoke weed and pot all day and than when I get bore because I did Not a bigger raise than my employers or the guys next to me, I go on strike. (sarcasm intended.)
— Lexus (View Profile)
Posted on 3/29/2011 3:58:43 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 10
Yeah that guy in the orange shirt, shorts and running shoes looks like a real ganster....— 800over (View Profile)
Yeah that guy in the orange shirt, shorts and running shoes looks like a real ganster....
— 800over (View Profile)
Posted on 3/30/2011 10:40:31 AM | | Votes: 0
correction,march on a the street with a sign saying they're on strike etc...!— Lexus (View Profile)
correction,march on a the street with a sign saying they're on strike etc...!
Posted on 3/29/2011 3:59:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
correction again, smoke weed and pot during my lunch break on the expenses of hard and honest working citizens.— Lexus (View Profile)
correction again, smoke weed and pot during my lunch break on the expenses of hard and honest working citizens.
Posted on 3/29/2011 4:01:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
In don't think they are paid during lunch. So how the heck can it be at the "expenses of hard and honest working citizens"? — LexSucks (View Profile)
In don't think they are paid during lunch. So how the heck can it be at the "expenses of hard and honest working citizens"?
Posted on 3/29/2011 5:03:58 PM | | Votes: -7
Mr. King can eat his own words "It is critically important for our membership to organize those facilities to keep the companies where we already represent workers competitive." So they need these factories on board so they can continue to support and pay election officials in the North to keep the current UAW people's heads above water.Good job foreign auto's keep fightin the fight. Or should I say workers who are fiscally responsible and live within their means and enjoy and are PROUD of their work.— Whelan (View Profile)
Mr. King can eat his own words "It is critically important for our membership to organize those facilities to keep the companies where we already represent workers competitive." So they need these factories on board so they can continue to support and pay election officials in the North to keep the current UAW people's heads above water.Good job foreign auto's keep fightin the fight. Or should I say workers who are fiscally responsible and live within their means and enjoy and are PROUD of their work.
— Whelan (View Profile)
Posted on 3/29/2011 4:09:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9
"King is hoping his pitch — that the union is the defender of middle-class jobs and upward mobility". Does Mr. King really think non-union factory workers are really that naive to believe his lies. You can keep your UAW kronie unions up there, because the UAW members does nothing but bleed a company dry before they move on.— gkearns56 (View Profile)
"King is hoping his pitch — that the union is the defender of middle-class jobs and upward mobility". Does Mr. King really think non-union factory workers are really that naive to believe his lies. You can keep your UAW kronie unions up there, because the UAW members does nothing but bleed a company dry before they move on.
— gkearns56 (View Profile)
Posted on 3/29/2011 5:14:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9
If Southerners want to be paid the least amount of money possible then let them. Its amazing how people here side with corporations instead of the unions. Both are evil, but corporations are far more destructive to the middle class. If we keep this up we'll finally be able to compete globally with $0.18 an hour salaries. The corporations will be happy for they dont have to go oversees for slave labor anymore. Be careful what you wish for people. — LexSucks (View Profile)
If Southerners want to be paid the least amount of money possible then let them. Its amazing how people here side with corporations instead of the unions. Both are evil, but corporations are far more destructive to the middle class. If we keep this up we'll finally be able to compete globally with $0.18 an hour salaries. The corporations will be happy for they dont have to go oversees for slave labor anymore. Be careful what you wish for people.
Posted on 3/29/2011 5:34:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -9
Lexsucks, you have to be realistic about this.Japanese autoworkers aren't payed 0.18c an hour, the time when car companies could turn a profit on worker comp are long gone, in several countries now autoworkers are among the best paid industrial employees in the world.But let's be relative, the average auto assembly job in the US averages around 40 000 + a year, with some workers closer to 60-70k a year depending on the ammount of years on the job.In Korea for example, an excellent yearly wage ramps you closer to about 25K a year, Hyundai and Kia employees are among the top paid workers in the country but keep in mind, they aren't making 60K, not even close their average salary in USD would be around 22KNow are they underpaid or are UAW workers overpaid ?It's all a matter of perception imho— Hoorayforpeepee (View Profile)
Lexsucks, you have to be realistic about this.Japanese autoworkers aren't payed 0.18c an hour, the time when car companies could turn a profit on worker comp are long gone, in several countries now autoworkers are among the best paid industrial employees in the world.But let's be relative, the average auto assembly job in the US averages around 40 000 + a year, with some workers closer to 60-70k a year depending on the ammount of years on the job.In Korea for example, an excellent yearly wage ramps you closer to about 25K a year, Hyundai and Kia employees are among the top paid workers in the country but keep in mind, they aren't making 60K, not even close their average salary in USD would be around 22KNow are they underpaid or are UAW workers overpaid ?It's all a matter of perception imho
Posted on 3/29/2011 6:56:32 PM | | Votes: 7
60k buys just an ok living in the US in Korea you live pretty well off of 25k. — upwards (View Profile)
60k buys just an ok living in the US in Korea you live pretty well off of 25k.
— upwards (View Profile)
Posted on 4/2/2011 11:00:21 AM | | Votes: 1
@LexSucks,LexSuck says, "In don't think they are paid during lunch. So how the heck can it be at the "expenses of hard and honest working citizens"?"Where do you think their bailout money from the? The government and do the government get it money? The tax payers is paying it. UAW had it part in history just like VHS.Do me a favor what auto company with UAW has done really good? Ford? give me a break, didn't someone up here mention that Ford borrow money to stay alive and now the American are rewarding them by buying their products because they did Not take the bailout money. And bring out a lot exciting and good looking vehicles.I have No Problem rewarding hard working and honest UAW members but every time I read an article about the UAW, it always my bonus is Not big enough and were on strike.Eventually all of American big corporation will move oversea to developing country and then what? — Lexus (View Profile)
@LexSucks,LexSuck says, "In don't think they are paid during lunch. So how the heck can it be at the "expenses of hard and honest working citizens"?"Where do you think their bailout money from the? The government and do the government get it money? The tax payers is paying it. UAW had it part in history just like VHS.Do me a favor what auto company with UAW has done really good? Ford? give me a break, didn't someone up here mention that Ford borrow money to stay alive and now the American are rewarding them by buying their products because they did Not take the bailout money. And bring out a lot exciting and good looking vehicles.I have No Problem rewarding hard working and honest UAW members but every time I read an article about the UAW, it always my bonus is Not big enough and were on strike.Eventually all of American big corporation will move oversea to developing country and then what?
Posted on 3/30/2011 12:07:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6
Let's not forget the cost of living. It is a LOT less expensive to live in a state like Alabama or even Tennessee than it is to live in Michigan or other northern auto state. So making 60k in the north to support yourself does not mean the guy makign 40k in the south is poor. It just costs less to live there. Less taxes, less insurance, less everything.It's all a scale and while I'm sure the southern auto worker would LOVE To make 60k plus a year off the bat starting pay, they would MUCH rather continue to live comfortably and not have to worry about layoffs, strikes, paying into other peoples pensions, etc.Pensions are dead, I work in HRO and not one of our clients utilizes a pension system anymore. The Defined Benefits are is probably the worst place to work as you are constantly doing calcs and trying to find money to pay people on the old system. Once DB is done many years down the road it will be a phenomenal thing and companies will be able to afford more and do more with their money like pay employees higher wages and create more advancements.We are not in the early days anymore when a Union was NEEDED to give employees a voice when the companies and factories touted their rules. Government intervention, State and local agencies and laws have all come around to advance society to a point where the companies have to honor certain guidelines or be punished.If a company operating without a Union is paying it's employees a lot less than a competitor down the street. More people are going to go to the competitor and the company will be forced to close shop or adjust to the market to stay competitive.— Whelan (View Profile)
Let's not forget the cost of living. It is a LOT less expensive to live in a state like Alabama or even Tennessee than it is to live in Michigan or other northern auto state. So making 60k in the north to support yourself does not mean the guy makign 40k in the south is poor. It just costs less to live there. Less taxes, less insurance, less everything.It's all a scale and while I'm sure the southern auto worker would LOVE To make 60k plus a year off the bat starting pay, they would MUCH rather continue to live comfortably and not have to worry about layoffs, strikes, paying into other peoples pensions, etc.Pensions are dead, I work in HRO and not one of our clients utilizes a pension system anymore. The Defined Benefits are is probably the worst place to work as you are constantly doing calcs and trying to find money to pay people on the old system. Once DB is done many years down the road it will be a phenomenal thing and companies will be able to afford more and do more with their money like pay employees higher wages and create more advancements.We are not in the early days anymore when a Union was NEEDED to give employees a voice when the companies and factories touted their rules. Government intervention, State and local agencies and laws have all come around to advance society to a point where the companies have to honor certain guidelines or be punished.If a company operating without a Union is paying it's employees a lot less than a competitor down the street. More people are going to go to the competitor and the company will be forced to close shop or adjust to the market to stay competitive.
Posted on 3/30/2011 9:47:31 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4
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