Is the Accord destined to be America's next number 1?

by good old country boys you meant red necks?

— bluedart (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:54:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

the accord is better looking, better handling and has more personality overall than the benign camry.

and now that the camry's cherished reliability (the main reason people buy it is reliablity NOT looks or performance) is in question given all the transmission issues...

i think the accord has a great shot.

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 8:48:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

I could really careless! I will not drive neither one!

— keyzi747 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 9:02:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -12   

The new Accord is not that nice lookin' and I would buy the Chevy Malibu if I was in need of a 4 door car.

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 9:20:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -15   

Honda should make a 'long wheelbase' version. It wouldn't cost any more and the really huge rear seat room would allow them to add incremental sales.

Heck, they could be taxi's in NYC.

What ever happened to the Chrysler 300 LWB shown at the auto shows a few years ago? I sat in one there and thought it was a great idea.

— nybimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 9:27:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

If toyotas reputation keeps going the way its been, I wouldn't doubt the demise of the Camry. Besides, the midsize segement is rough. Everyone has a competiive product now, even GM. People can choose from the Accord, Camry, Malibu, Aura, Altima, Fusion, 6 and Milan. With all these choices, there really is a chance for the consumer to get out and really choose the right fit for their needs. Whether it be perfomence, styling, efficiency or even technology.

2008 will be a buyers market.

— no1listensanyway (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 9:46:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

At first glance, I was disappointed at the Accord's exterior style direction. But when you see it on the street, the car has "I look more expensive than..." air to it. Of course, the interior is very elegant.
I do not think that the Accord will take the title from Camry. The reason being that although it has been reviewed as superior than the Camry, it does not have a Hybrid version and fleet sales are much lower than the Toyota. These two factors would account for about 70K on sales.

— QQauto (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 9:49:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The Accord was #1 in the early 90s, so it's not a stretch that it could conceivably regain that title. I am in the minority though, because I think the Camry is better looking. I see the new accord as several vehicles in one: the rear three-quarters from the 5-series, the rear light treatment from the C-class and the front seems detached from the rear for some reason. Like both front and rear were designed by two different teams.

I also disagree that the interior is elegant. It is not. I checked it out with leather. First of all, it is too roomy. Yeah, it is possible for a car to have too much interior room. If you want it big enough for a Police cruiser or a cab, be my guest. That would effectively kill the car.

Secondly, it doesn't cuddle you the way the Camry does. I guess that is what I mean by too much room.

As for driving dynamics, oh well, it must be superior to the Camry. The Accord is usually superior in that category.

— Maxim (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:29:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The Accord is a lot better than the Camry. The only thing the Camry has that the Accord doesn't is SmartKey. If Honda puts that on the Accord, then there's no stopping them.

— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:37:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Is the Camry made in the US?

— indifferent (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:57:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

The new Accord looks superb. It looks EXPENSIVE. Very classy. It's nice to drive and nice to be in, too.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:59:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

the first time I saw an Accord on the road, it was simply stunning. I really couldn't stop looking at it. Is it a mixture of some other elements found on other cars? Sure. But as one package, it works extremely well.

And the interior is currently my 2nd favorite interior of any car in production, first being the Cadillac CTS.

— senorgato (View Profile)

Posted on 11/19/2007 11:19:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

They were number #1 for awhile until the Toyota Camry took that Title away in the 1980s, I believe. Even they do take that title away from Toyota, it still a Japanese brand.

If that does happen, I think it is good for the consumers. Because Toyota will be force to make their cars even better than they are now and give incentive.

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 1:20:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Even the interior resembles a 5 series interior.

— bimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/22/2007 1:05:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

i agree with you on that, Honda interiors are pretty well layed out and with leather options, it does feel very luxurious inside.

watch out though, you may hit some fanboys button with that one :)

— r15mohd (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 9:16:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Pffttt! Yeah right. But coming from you it doesnt surprise me. Maybe Volkswagen or Opel but thats about it. Dream on, and as a reference YES I have sat inside both the sedan, and coupe.

— w209w114 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 10:06:26 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

06GS

Funny I was at an auto show as well last week. Theres no coming through to you. Audi, MB, and BMW have some of the finest interiors out there.

While at the show I had a chance to sit inside all of the makes and realize just why the Germans are so coveted. I didnt see people taking pictures sitting inside the Accords or flocking the stands and waiting in line for a chance to sit inside. People know, I dont think anyone buying an accord will consider it on par with a BMW, Audi, or MB, and if they do then good for them. Imagination means more to some than reality.

— w209w114 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 1:51:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

GS300, I assume you feel the same way about the new Malibu vs. the Lexus LS? Because that guy traded in his LS for one.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 6:14:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

It should be

— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 9:09:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Honda is much better than toyota. Especially in the quality department. I know this because my friend is a service writer for a toyota dealer and he said he cant believe how far down the quality of toyotas have gone down. He said he is surprised people keep buying them. I would buy a honda over a toyota anyday.

— 2ndbimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 10:07:52 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

The Front of the New Honda Accord reminds me of a hyundai. As long as the Accord is FWD, it will never be anything more than a really nice, cookie-cutter, run-of-the-mill sedan.

— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 10:52:52 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

There was a snap review on the New York Times just about when then Accord was being introduced. The reviewer actually compares it to an Mercedes E Class on its feel on the road. He comes to even say that the Accord is the new paradigm on cars for its segment.

— QQauto (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 11:22:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

The Accord has always been a little better than the Camry all along. I don't know whether this will change the rankings, but it will be the Accord that beats the Camry in sales if it is to happen.

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 12:29:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

"PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE! DO ANYONE KNOWS WHY THE CAMRY IS THE BEST SELLING CAR IN AMERICA? NO OTHER CAR COME CLOSE TO IT IN QUAILITY!"

No, that might have been ten years ago, but now the Camry is selling on its reputation. If you haven't realized that, it's time to take a closer look.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 6:16:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I agree, the Camry is not as good as the Accord.

— kart1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/21/2007 12:11:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Houston although I am still trying to figure out your gender that is beside the point, but may explain why so much trash comes out of your mouth at times. First off although the TL interior is 5 yeras old it is still about 10x technologically advanced than the plain Camry with it's three tacky knobs on the dash. The Camry next to the Accord interior wise also is a joke the exterior race is a little closer. Toyota uses cheap dull looking materials in their interiors everything to the ignition screams cheap. (guess they are saving their money for Lexus)

— mikeydred20 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/21/2007 11:08:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

"Why is Accord is better than Camry?"

• Looks better
• Drives better
• Better interior
• More reliable
• More spacious/versatile
• Great engines
• Competitive pricing, in addition to the above

Is that enough?

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/22/2007 1:18:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

"More reliable - FALSE, LETS COMPARE THE LAST 10 YEARS OF JD POWER AND CONSUMER REPORTS AND TOYOTA BEAT HONDA HOW MANY TIMES? AND HONDA BEAT TOYOTA THIS YEAR DUE TO A ENGINE PROBLEM THAT WAS CORRECTED."

Wrong. LET'S COMPARE THE LATEST CAMRY AND LATEST ACCORD. The Accord doesn't HAVE any "engine problem" that needs to be corrected! That's because it's MORE RELIABLE than the Camry!

"More spacious/versatile - SPACIOUS - ABOUT THE SAME, VERSATILE - FALSE"

Check the specs. The Accord is rated as a "large car" by the EPA while the Camry is a "midsize." That's because the new Accord has over 100 cu. ft of interior space. What makes you think it's less versatile?

"Great engines - FALSE- HONDA WELL IS KNOW FOR HAVING TRANSMISSIONS FAILURE IN THE PAST ESPECIALLY THE BIG RECALL THEY HAD ON SERVERAL MODELS (OVER 100,000) 1999-2002 MODEL YEARS"

Well, how about the engine they have NOW? It's smoother, higher-revving and gets better mileage than Toyota's.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/25/2007 2:41:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

THOSE ARE ALL OPINIONS. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT DISAGREE WITH YOU.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 6:17:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

By the way Houston Consumer Reports and J&D had Honda rated higher than Toyota on average the last ten years. It was Lexus that was #1 for a while but slipped. Honda usually ran in at #2

— mikeydred20 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2007 7:45:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The Camry has never achieved a sub-6 sec 0-60 time.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 6:18:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Camrys are the biggest pieces of crap. Go dump of more units to rental car companys Toyota. They suck!

— LEXUSpos (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 7:03:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The Accord does have a sport package, and were offering them long before Toyota knew what sport was!

— mikeydred20 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 9:08:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The new accord 4 door engine has VCM that enable it to run on 3,4,6 cyl that the reason it's a bit slower than the camry but the 2 door coupe is not equipe with
the vcm it'll smoke not only the camry but the whole
toyota fleet and some of the lexuses,the accord coupe is a beast

— wanga (View Profile)

Posted on 11/26/2007 2:51:44 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Sport edition Camry, YOU ARE SO FREAKIN FUNNY!

Some is sporty about a Camry, RENTAL CAR!

— LEXUSpos (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 7:06:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

I hope theres a diesel in the works for 09. its not a sports car, but I can drive it up past 60 on the highway very well.

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 3:11:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I'll take the Micheal Waltrip NASCAR edition Camry. Yah right Camry suck big time.

Accord is a million times better looking. Period.

— LEXUSpos (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 7:05:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Am I the only one that thinks the Accord engineers were hired from Hyundai? The new Accord sedan and Hyundai Sonata sedan are identical...lol. The Honda will likely have better build quality than Camry and Malibu. But boils down to preference.

— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 8:09:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

I know the Accord time is better than 6.5 so give me the real numbers because the previous version v6 did about that!

— mikeydred20 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/20/2007 9:10:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Camry is ugly.

When is the Micheal Waltrip NASCAR edition Camry coming out?

— LEXUSpos (View Profile)

Posted on 11/21/2007 2:42:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I think the clear winners here in this segment are not the camry or accord, as everyone seems to like either one or the other, the clear winners here are Chevy Malibu, Pontiac G6, and Saturn Aura. These cars are being cross-shopped by Accord and Camry buyers which didn't happen before. I don't even want to mention the Nissan Altima which seems to be just as good as Camry and Accord (hybrid, intelligent key, bluetooth, availability of 2 door coupe), but very few even mention it. Why is that?

— tecnopolis (View Profile)

Posted on 11/21/2007 2:57:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I pick the Accord over both Camry . I saw the accord the other day in bethesda honda dealership, and i was completely taken back by the awesome design. The car has got a presence about it, and it looks way, way better in person.

And now comparison with malibu, the interior of the malibu is made of almost the same plasticky materials they put in the old malibu. But the design is very good and the power output is plenty. But Honda's are considered some of the most reliable cars in the world(honda made about 15 million V tech engines and none had any reported problem in it's lifetime). I am sorry, but i still can not believe the Malibu to be that reliable.

For me the Accord will be my choice, because of it's practicality, superb design, and phenomenal interior, and pretty good driving dynamics. I still have not driven the Malibu, so i can not rule out malibu completely.

— farabira1 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/21/2007 1:47:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

I'm curious why Honda decided to go w/the cylinder deactivation technology to achieve only 1 mpg better on the hwy than the same sized (3.5L) Toyota engine w/out it. Seems a bit overkill for minimal results.

— ElSparquito (View Profile)

Posted on 11/21/2007 1:54:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Not when its more expensive, and some people view toyota as god himself.

— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 11/23/2007 7:43:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Accrd has always been a better vehicle than camry.99 to 01 accord v6 "only" had tranny problems.Honda did a great job by extending the tranny warranty to 7 years or 100000 miles,the solved their in 02.Toyota in the other hand have an oil sludge,cam shaft since 96 to present and now they have tranny problems,new toy Tendra bed shake violently when driven over 40 mph. The new accord is no longer in the same class with camry,i sell both of them,i must the curent camry is no match for the new accord.

— wanga (View Profile)

Posted on 11/26/2007 2:41:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1