Jaguar Sales Soar In The United States

Jagexpert2 submitted on 06/03/2008 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 7:49 PM
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Jaguar Sales Soar In The United States

Jaguar had one of its best months for years in the US with sales of 1,757, an increase of 27.4 per cent over the same month last year.
XF, 1,757 units, accounted for the bulk of those sales. Since the car’s launch in March, Jaguar has sold 3,457 in the US, a figure that justifies executives’ faith that it is the car to turn the company’s fortunes around after a long period of declining sales. Read Article

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Agent001 - 6/3/2008 8:08:48 PMView My AgentSpace

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The next thing the Jaguar execs will figure out before they get their big severances is that PRODUCT actually matters! LOLOL!

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tattedtwice - 6/3/2008 8:27:54 PM

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So the xf is already outselling the m and gs, both of which have multiple models, engines and drivetrains? How embarrassing, for them.

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adamsaf723 - 6/4/2008 12:42:07 AM

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The M is at the end of it's product cycle and the GS loses a lot of sales because of how well equipped you can get an ES.

Also, the XF has 2 engine types, and has another on the way... so idk what you are talking about there.

LACMAN - 6/4/2008 1:26:54 AMView My AgentSpace

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What I cant figure out is how you justified the buyer driving off the lot in a loaded ES versus a GS. Isnt that like saying buy a loaded DTS because its a better price than a loaded STS?

Two TOTALLY different consumers...

DieselRules - 6/4/2008 12:14:33 PM

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Hey, most smart buyers won't buy a model in its first year, not even a Toyota.

tattedtwice - 6/4/2008 6:59:41 PM

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"The GS is in it's 3rd year, the 5-series is in it's 5th year yet you want to compare their sales to a car just released last month."
Keep whining, pumpkin; doesn't change the fact that the japs are getting beat down by the Germans and the Brit.

"Stop being such a tool."
Stop being such a pu55y.

tattedtwice - 6/4/2008 7:04:49 PM

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"Also, the XF has 2 engine types, and has another on the way... so idk what you are talking about there."

Yes, sparky, but my point was both of the jag's engine options are big gas-swilling V8's and that there is no 'economical' base engine choice like with the japs.

Batman219 - 6/3/2008 8:45:45 PM

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I saw the XF on the road the other day and was pleasantly surprised. The photos didn't do much for me but in person its a different story. Overall shape is definitely Lexus like but the details really stand out. I'm still conflicted about the rear end and not a big fan of that chrome horizontal bar b/w the tail lights.

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cyco - 6/3/2008 8:54:07 PM

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The XF is pretty nice... It's good to see Jaguar back in the fight with something relevant.

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S4cabriofoxone - 6/3/2008 8:58:57 PMView My AgentSpace

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"...with sales of 1,757, an increase of 27.4 per cent over the same month last year.
XF, 1,757 units, accounted for the bulk of those sales."

Huh?

LOL.

The XF is fantastic. I would be much more receptive to buying it if it came with AWD.

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urbansouljah - 6/3/2008 9:04:49 PM

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That last sentence made no sense.

urbansouljah - 6/3/2008 9:05:10 PM

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in your quote

Jagexpert2 - 6/3/2008 9:06:48 PMView My AgentSpace

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It has a winter mode that mimics all wheel drive so its weight and extra fearin g and complexity is un-needed.

S4cabriofoxone - 6/4/2008 1:32:22 AMView My AgentSpace

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That is what I've heard, but even a "winter mode" on a RWD car might not be the same. Are you sure about that? If so, why hasn't it been more widely publicized?

M35MT - 6/4/2008 8:26:55 AMView My AgentSpace

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Don't most RWD cars have a "snow mode" that mimicks 4WD (but with only 2 wheels to shift power to, of course)

You're still going to have a hard time climbing a steep icy slope in the middle of January with a RWD car.

ym73 - 6/4/2008 7:12:35 PM

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The winter mode reduces the responsiveness of the throttle to reduce wheel spin. It will help im winter driving but it won't be as effective as awd. If you live in a hilly area with lots of snow, the winter mode might not work well. If you live in a flat area, the winter mode w/ snow tires might be sufficient.

Jagexpert2 - 6/3/2008 9:08:36 PMView My AgentSpace

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Gearing Is what I meant

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Maverick2020 - 6/3/2008 9:17:14 PM

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This is a little off-topic, but apparently a lot of Ford Motor Company executives had to turn-in their free corporate vehicle--many of them Jaguars and Land Rovers--as a result of the JLR sale to Tata this week and get back into a Ford or Lincoln. Bummer.

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LDMAN - 6/4/2008 1:03:01 AM

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Wait until you see all the Jaguar Land Rover employees driving Fords and Freelanders trading down to Tata Nano or Indica. (LOL)

Jagexpert2 - 6/3/2008 9:18:50 PMView My AgentSpace

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Good riddance Lmao

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Jagexpert2 - 6/3/2008 9:19:40 PMView My AgentSpace

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Just kidding Ford did wonders for our reliability and the XF is a wondrous car

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LDMAN - 6/4/2008 1:08:11 AM

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Maybe but they came up with X400, made X350 look like X300 without any of the Jag quirks (remember the fuel cap location?) while managing to spend a cool Billion dollars AND most of all GORGEOUS which meant brand euthanasia in Ford speak.!!!

cdoke - 6/4/2008 11:27:15 AMView My AgentSpace

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Over the past decade there have certainly been some mistakes at Jaguar, but not all of them are Ford's doing.

The mistake that is definitely Ford's doing is the X-type, which they essentially forced on Jaguar. That abomination did immense damage to Jaguar.

The XJ losing some of its unique features, while remaining too retro is Jaguar's fault. I would also like to add the list of things that were unique and I like but were removed; in addition to the fuel cap location (although you have to know how to fill it, otherwise the jack keeps kicking off the fuel), the reverse opening hood, and the single wiper blade.

amazinBimmer - 6/3/2008 9:24:04 PM

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27 percent of a small number is a small number...

but audi better watch out.

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Star - 6/3/2008 9:36:59 PM

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Resale value is what kills Jaguar sales.

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Jagexpert2 - 6/3/2008 9:43:54 PMView My AgentSpace

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Not any more the Jaguar right now is the fastest rising Premium car in resale while all the others Like BMW and Lexus and Audi are all falling. I have the article but not on my home computer. I'll post it on Jaguar Newswire tomorrow.

Star - 6/3/2008 10:22:13 PM

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I believe you but you should know that these articles about resale values don't hold any weight on the real market.
For example Acura TSX was always given as an example of high resale value but in reality their REAL trade in value was always extremely low.
On the other hand BMW resale value was always strong and right now is as strong as ever. As long as you see them offering a 3 series for 330$ a month you can be sure that their resale value is fantastic. Anyway I wish the best for Jaguar.

DieselRules - 6/4/2008 12:48:37 PM

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Resale has always been low on cars at the high end.
I think they lose their status appeal for the market where that's important.

Works great for me ... I buy them with 100k miles for 1/10th the new cost.

Jag's historical resale was low due to reliability issues due to the materials in the engine seals and other non-metallic parts. That was all fixed in the 1980's but took till the 1990's for word to get around that they were now "modern" cars that don't leak oil after a couple of years.

Jagexpert2 - 6/4/2008 6:42:11 PMView My AgentSpace

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Here is the article I promised to post last night:

Used-Car Price Decline Slams Luxury Makes
Used-vehicle prices are slumping in the United States, just as cars and trucks coming off lease are crowding the upscale pre-owned market. Luxury international used vehicles now are selling, in some cases, for thousands of dollars less than the automakers expected. For example, last week, BMW AG said it had taken a $372 million charge to reflect falling U.S. resale prices, according to the Automotive News. Sales volume isn't BMW's problem. Jan Ehlen, a spokesman for BMW North America LLC, said the number of BMW vehicles that came off lease between September 2007 and March 2008 rose 50 percent from the year-ago period. Like other automakers, BMW generally leases vehicles for 36 months. So the 2005 models are coming off lease and joining the used-vehicle market now. Ricky Beggs said those cars and trucks are selling for an average wholesale price of $25,607 ? more than $3,000 less than projected. Similarly, the 2005-model Mercedes vehicles had an initial 36-month residual value of $34,472. But the current average wholesale sales price of those vehicles is $29,733 ? more than $4,700 less. The problem is less pronounced for Lexus, Beggs said. Its 3-year-old used cars and trucks are selling for an average wholesale price of $23,571 ? about $1,400 less than their projected residuals, he said. Overall, about 2.2 million off-lease vehicles will join the used-vehicle market this year, CNW Marketing Research predicts. The increased supply of used vehicles and a sagging economy are driving down prices. In March 2008, average wholesale prices of used cars and trucks were 2.4 percent lower than in the year-ago month, ADESA Analytical Services said. Prices of luxury cars dropped 2.5 percent, and prices of luxury SUVs fell 9.3 percent.

Jagexpert2 - 6/3/2008 11:16:54 PMView My AgentSpace

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I appreciate the well wish but your thesis is flawed. As long as BMW offers $330 leases their residuals and resale will continue to decline. As a result of artificially low leases that are subvented by the manufacturer BMW has run in to a brick wall. Their cars are not worth what the payoff is on the cars at lease end so the used B<MW market gets flooded because its cheaper to lease a new one than buy the car off lease. Its not worth what the buy out is. There fore BMW is going to be a casualty of its own greed. Too many car coming off lease that they have to absorb the difference on is a nightmare. Its also happening to Lexus and Mercedes.

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M35MT - 6/4/2008 8:29:37 AMView My AgentSpace

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So true!!

DieselRules - 6/4/2008 12:55:10 PM

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But for consumers (us) the lease returns are fantastic deals (especially if you pick them up wholesale)

Star - 6/4/2008 3:28:13 PM

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I don't know where you got your information but I can tell you that you are wrong. BMW makes huge profits from the cars that are lease returns. Yes, BMW resale value is just that good.

Jagexpert2 - 6/4/2008 8:49:19 PMView My AgentSpace

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Star Read above . BMW's European operation has been supporting its American operation for years

VISO - 6/5/2008 4:36:19 PM

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Agreed, and a good point. BMW and MB having subverting leases to push volume, and now they are paying for it dearly. The goal should always be profitability first even if you sacrifice volume for it. That is why Audi has been able to avoid some of this fall-out. A 378+ million write-off is just plain a result of greed. No pay the piper.

Agent63 - 6/4/2008 12:34:32 AMView My AgentSpace

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Good job Jaguar!. Well deserved sales increase as a company. Great design, good quality & the car that makes a Jaguar a Shaguar : P

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Lexurious - 6/5/2008 7:54:28 AM

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screw that it aint no shaguar. more like faguar you loser

Larry - 6/4/2008 1:21:55 AM

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Good for Jaguar, if Ford had the courage to change up Jaguar's designs they could have made more money.

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blowingass - 6/4/2008 3:42:43 AM

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Who cares... Are these the kind of "headlines" we can expect every time the monthly sales figures are released for EACH manufacturer?

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farabira1 - 6/4/2008 5:22:42 AM

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Wow, now that's what i am talking about. Keep it going jaguar and please introduce a cool looking car like the XF in the next XJ.

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ubercool - 6/4/2008 5:58:09 AM

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Nice one Jaguar, truly great cars, looking forward to the new XFR, XJ and F-Type...

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Whelan - 6/4/2008 11:19:41 AM

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I read the article on the XF Supercharged in MT, wonderful car. It even won out in a comparo done recently as well. Fantastic looking car, great little gadgets and trim. And offering only V8s in the US is a nice plus.

Ford should never have let go of Jag, look at the sales they are missing out on. dorks.

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amazinBimmer - 6/4/2008 11:21:03 AM

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bulldogz.. again.. send me an address, I wil send you pics...

BUT>>> how are he LEDs in your fwd car?.. heheh. It does hold water, dumbass, you should get a better job and spring for the Bimmer.

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S4cabriofoxone - 6/4/2008 1:48:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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bulldogz has a 335i and an A8L, if I remember correctly...

Have fun wallowing in your own ignorance.

Caraficionado - 6/4/2008 1:11:31 PM

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I feel bad for the Ford guys who will have to witness how the new Jag owners get rich.

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mini22 - 6/4/2008 2:36:20 PM

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The reality is that Jaguar was and should never have been part of the Ford culture.All it did was confuse the issue with Lincoln.The X type was a terrible move for Ford. The S type was a Lincoln LS. It really made no sense. Ford did a good job on reliability issues with Jag so it has to be given some credit.Unlike VW Ford simply did not no how to market a high end luxury car maker. VW prooved it can be done with Bentley Bugatti,Lamborgini,and Audi.Ford is now struggling with Volvo even though they are using a lot of their platforms.It will be interesting to see how long it takes Ford to sell off Volvo. I predict with in a yr.

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urbansouljah - 6/4/2008 8:39:06 PM

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The Lincoln LS is an S-type. Not the other way around. The LS was launched in 99. It borrowed Jaguar's AJ-V8 which was designed entirely by Jaguar and launched in 96 in the XK8. and used a Jaguar designed suspension. All DEW 98 cars have some Ford parts but all major components are from Jaguar in these cars. The DEW 98 platform was co-developed by Jaguar and Ford. This platform now belongs entirely to Jaguar.

ubercool - 6/4/2008 3:18:26 PM

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Jag are right back on top these days, the XK and XJ are easily the best in their class. Bring on the new XFR, XJ and F-Type, can't wait.

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ubercool - 6/5/2008 2:38:28 PM

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They only use more gears, the Jag has six and the BMW/Merc have 7 gears, nothing to do with quality at all, just closer gear ratios and lower final drive... Anything more than six gears just gets annoying!!

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xj13 - 6/4/2008 8:03:26 PM

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Well done jag your BACK BABY.

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Audiphile - 6/5/2008 11:55:53 AM

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The XF is a lovely car, inside and out. I've test-driven it, and it is very nice. One nice touch - in spite of that low-looking roofline, my head doesn't hit the ceiling, even with a sunroof. That transmission gear selector is really cool. I only wish the paddle shifters were made of magnesium or aluminum instead of plastic.

I do have one problem. The standard XF comes with a 4.2-liter 300-hp V8, and is perfectly adequate for my needs. However, the standard suspension is a little too soft for my taste. The supercharged XF has a tauter suspension that handles better, but that 420-hp engine is a bit of overkill for me. I wish that Jaguar would offer a sport suspension option for the standard XF. Maybe they will offer that in the future.

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