Lexus is ready for the battle ! 3 New Scoop from JAPAN

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Lexus is ready for the battle ! 3 New Scoop from JAPAN

After the L600h and L600hL which set the standard of luxury sedans to a whole new level and offer a real alternative to the German manufacturers, Lexus, probably helped by the almighty Toyota has been sharpening his tools and looks ready for the battle !

The news come from the Japanese magazine "Car-Top" and even though those are rumours, we all know how it goes nowadays in the automotive industry, there is no time to waste with false informations. The big "L" has got 3 new weapons on their way.

Firstly the Lexus IS, challenging cars such as the BMW 3 series or Mercedes C Class, should soon be adding a convertible version to the lineup, a great news for all those who want to enjoy the upcoming summer in the best dispositions, no infos on the type of engine there will be under the right foot yet.

The second news will please all the Motorsport fans like myself, especially in the United States of America because Lexus has never been closer to enter the American Le Mans Series with the IS-F, to compete in the GT2 class alongside the Ferrari F430 and Porsche 997 GT.

Last but not least, Lexus is bringing something on the table for all the supercar lovers, the LF-A, considered by some as the new Toyota Supra, will mean business: 570HP and 320+kmh (200+mph) on the speedometer.

An impressive triple offensive by Lexus and we can't wait to know more ! Read Article

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/25/2007 9:40:13 AM

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"...IS-F to take on the 997 GT3 and Ferrari F430..."

See! LexusKing and I told you.

There's no stopping the big-L, specially with the aid of the almighty Toyota.

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bigTYME - 5/25/2007 10:59:36 AMView My AgentSpace

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The 997 and the F430 are on another level. AND the -F doesnt have anything on Mpower or AMG. They will always be a step ahead. By the way, how are they gonna market this IS-F? Lexus is only good at one thing. They make fuel efficient, supposedly extremely reliable, luxury cars, not sports cars.

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Agent63 - 5/25/2007 12:44:29 PMView My AgentSpace

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HAHAHA

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w209w114 - 5/25/2007 1:04:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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This convertible doesnt look proportionally right with the top down. Look at the position of the front seat in reference to the door and rear seats. Look good with the top up. I like the small trunk even though it looks like its only big enough for the folding roof.

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jackpuls - 5/26/2007 10:52:25 AM

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Get a grip man... This is pathetic stuff.

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printhan - 5/26/2007 5:54:48 PM

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The IS sedan already dominates the 3-Series. So we know that the convertible will dominate as well. Lexus is the new benchmark

YOU REALLY HAVE NOTHING N YA MIND!!

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printhan - 5/26/2007 5:55:26 PM

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HAHA WAH A LOZER..
-10 BOOST!!!
NEXT TIME DONT THINK OF WRITING A COMMENT

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 10:16:31 PM

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Is printhan really Houston cutie in disguise?

Shut your damn caps off.

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mitchatlexusofmarin - 5/27/2007 12:21:31 PM

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FYI:

Lexus will build a coupe and CV IS (quite soon actually). It will be much more agressive in style than the sedan, and it will not look like this.

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ExGC - 5/25/2007 9:30:33 AM

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Give me a break. I own and love my IS350. It is a fabulous car in every respect. It in no way "dominates" the 3 series. The 3 series is a great car as well. Different cars for different people. It's time that everyone gets a little bit of perspective and acknowledges that at some point opinion is opinion and the facts don't give one clear answer to everyone.

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 5/25/2007 11:39:09 AM

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Exactly.

Agent63 - 5/25/2007 3:48:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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Very well said bro. Now that's a respectable comment. You own a Lexus but you're not like the 'lexus cult' aka 'fake Lexus users' who like to claim things that are untrue.

I too own a Lexus but I don't think it dominates the S-Class or any cars in its segment. They are all great cars.

Will_ - 5/25/2007 6:11:25 PM

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So the only way someone can gain respect is to own a Lexus and then say that they are not competition to their competition?

This is a phenomenon that will not take off, promise.

EL34 - 5/25/2007 9:34:56 AM

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Copycat, does Lexus have to build a car the exact same size as every BMW?

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/25/2007 9:42:27 AM

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They're just competing, OK?
You wouldn't say the same thing when Audi or MB was taking on BMW.

w209w114 - 5/25/2007 1:07:40 PMView My AgentSpace

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43LE

Do you always have to say something about EL34? Love is in the air....

david999 - 5/25/2007 9:55:08 AM

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570hp LF-A would be great if true. Lets see what is shown at the Tokyo Auto Show in October.

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david999 - 5/25/2007 10:14:31 AM

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The only decent looking BMW is the 335i coupe. I don't think Lexus is taking their design cues from BMW based on what the other models look like.

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EL34 - 5/25/2007 10:32:21 AM

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The IS250 convertible looks like a Celica, no?

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 12:40:46 AM

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Speaking of the Celica, it was a great looking and a sweet performing car.

enthusiastx11 - 5/25/2007 10:41:04 AM

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that convertible IS looks like a solara convertible.

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enthusiastx11 - 5/25/2007 6:17:53 PM

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all these cars are built/designed by the same company. toyota's amazing efficiency is achieved by reusing as many elements as possible across cars.

it looks like a solara!

LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 7:45:10 AM

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That's because that chop above is of a solara. The roof should be a more in keeping with the L-finesse theme.

TheSailor - 5/25/2007 10:41:55 AMView My AgentSpace

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that thing looks boring...

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answer - 5/25/2007 11:10:22 AMView My AgentSpace

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Could you guys please just simplify your responses with a "Lexus sucks".

That would save the rest of us hearing the same tired arguements or lame attempts at humour.

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TheSailor - 5/25/2007 11:52:21 AMView My AgentSpace

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Lexus doesn't suck at all, but that car does! Lets hope the front and rear view will make up for it, but from the side it looks boring... And a little like a Celica...

enthusiastx11 - 5/25/2007 12:52:02 PM

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lexus is great for reliability, comfort, quality...just not for design. and since that's all we have to judge this car on so far, i'd say it's a design dud.

LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 7:39:41 AM

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Somehow...I found that design pretty attractive. L-finesse the roof and all complains will die out.

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 5/25/2007 11:37:10 AM

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What a joke.

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/28/2007 4:22:56 AM

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Where's the joke? Your intelligence or the other German clowns here?

Homer008 - 5/25/2007 12:29:57 PM

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I do believe Lexus and Infinity makes far better products than a BMW but the real problems for the Germans are now..the AMerican cars are building more reliable and fuel efficient cars while European cars are still lagging behind technology and last places when it comes to building a reliable cars without falling apart on the highway..I see too many brand new German cars being whicked away on a tow truck each and everyday especially Mercs and Landrovers.

Lexus is about 3 years ahead of its competition as stated by analysists also!

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 5/25/2007 12:37:53 PM

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1) you are talking rubbish
2) you definitely have to start studying the rich heritage of the cars you mentioned
3) reliability isn't everything.

Luxurious - 5/25/2007 12:50:26 PM

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1)hes just sayin his opinion..u dont have to call it rubbish.
2)you definitely have to start studying the reliability, engineering cues and marketing strategies of the japanese companies
3)heritage isn't everything

TheSailor - 5/25/2007 1:03:39 PMView My AgentSpace

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What the hell are you talking about?!

I find it strange how only a certain group of people see all these wrecked german cars... And i find it equally strange how these people can continue to dismiss facts simply because they don't like them...

Nicehomer... Why don't you try looking up BMWs new line of Efficient dynamics engines... They ain't exactly low tech... And I would like to see the actual proof that Lexus are so far ahead of the germans (how do you meassure that BTW)...
As to wether Lexus makes better products, I think that is very subjective. Personally, I think the BMW interior has a better feel to it! None of all that hard plastics of the IS (or wood, I don't care, still rubish) and it doesn't look nearly as crowded... With the iDrive option, it is among the best looking interiors... And the E92 coupe is among the most beautiful coupes on the market... Sure as hell looks a lot better than the hardtop thingie shown above (same applies for the E92 hard top coupe)...

And I still haven't seen the proof that german cars end up in the side of the road so much more often than a Japanese cars... And please don't bring up that reliability thing none of you bothered to read the text to, because that clearly states that BMW is among the best when it comes to mechanical reliability but that their problem is quality control which means that trimming might come loose or the navi might malfunction (which will be fixed for free btw)... Hardly something which will make the car grind to a hault... And as for Mercedes, they had a bad run for a few years, but their present cars are all back to the old "mercedes standard" which even Lexus can't compete with... Go sit in an S-class and you'll know!

daytonaviolet - 5/25/2007 1:48:33 PM

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Landrovers aren't German.
They are British.
They do score horribly in the reliability ratings.
Please do not group them with Germans. BMW sold them years ago to Ford.

Rupert - 5/25/2007 2:24:55 PMView My AgentSpace

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I'm English and we all know here that Land Rovers are unreliable - the only thing that stops them being at the bottom of reliability surveys here are French cars.

S4cabriofoxone - 5/25/2007 2:26:36 PMView My AgentSpace

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If you had spelled Infiniti right, I might begin to take your comment seriously.

LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 12:32:20 AM

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An extremely mature comment Sailor. Hats off to you.

Rupert - 5/25/2007 2:25:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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And that trunk will not fit that roof.

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/25/2007 2:28:13 PMView My AgentSpace

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Bad photoshop- proportions are all wrong. The IS won't have such a rounded roof if it comes in cc, and the trunk is much too small. I really like the IS, but if the IS cc ends up looking anything like this, I'd be disappointed.

It's hard to pull off a four-seat hardtop convertible that looks attractive with the top up, though.

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M35MT - 5/25/2007 2:47:14 PMView My AgentSpace

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The IS is a gorgeous sport sedan. So is the G35, the 3 series, etc.

I hate convertibles. I think, THINK meaning my opinion, that they are for young girls and old men.

Roadsters are a different story, the SL500 is beautiful...although...some spoiled brat just got one on my super sweet 16, and otherwise only wealth older men seem to buy them.

Anyhow, I could care less about this because I dont like convertibles. I just want an IS with a 6spd manual that's actually quick, because I think that car looks delicious in black.

Go ahead, deboost me, my car is N/A anyhow :p

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Lexus - 5/25/2007 2:49:13 PM

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Lexus LF-A with 570 hp sweet......why 570 hp not 600 hp? might as well Lexus :). I think when final version of the Lexus IS convertible come out, it will look way better than the pic above. We all see the black Lexus IS convertible that was posted here last year.

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Caddyman07 - 5/25/2007 4:15:12 PM

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LOOKS DECENT MINUS THE REAR OVERHANG...

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Rupert - 5/25/2007 6:24:13 PMView My AgentSpace

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Call me anything but don't call me under educated.

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 10:13:49 PM

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This 'u' audience has no place amongst us. Their constituencies comprise mainly of 'immature' people.

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no1listensanyway - 5/25/2007 5:15:30 PMView My AgentSpace

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The IS looks like it will make a good coupe, I cannot say the same for a convertible.

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trd1 - 5/25/2007 5:43:50 PM

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aww, cant wait for the LF-A to come out and destroy the R8.

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Will_ - 5/25/2007 6:18:29 PM

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I agree that the proportions look wrong. The door should be bigger. I do not agree that the IS looks like a Toyota Celica, but I'll just brush that off as just normal anti-Lexus crap. I do agree that the LF-A and 3-Convertible Coupe were the inspirations for the rear.

As someone just said, the real Lexus engineers will make a great-looking coupe out of the IS. A convertible? I personally think that convertible versions of cars that were originally designed to be sedans and hardtops never look as good as their counterparts.

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Will_ - 5/25/2007 6:20:39 PM

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Oh, and lol!

It looks like Lexus WILL be in the same class as Ferrari and Porsche. ;)

Lexus - 5/25/2007 7:19:30 PM

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I think eventually Lexus will make a super sportcars that will have 600+ hp. Do anyone here know if the rumor about the Lexus LF-A is using Formula 1 technology for this car are true?

thank

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Lexus - 5/25/2007 7:26:50 PM

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Hey! where are the German fanboys that says Lexus will NEVER make a sportcar that will have 500+ hp? what excuses are you going to make now?

Here are the German fanyboys excuses, it won't handle as well as the M, RS or AMG division, yeah whatever. And here is my favorite excuse from the German fanboys, it doesn't has the soul or magical feel.

You mean the Magical feeling that the driver for the BMW 335i felt when it went overheat in the fourth laps? Let wait for it to come out with it test result before you make your comments.

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Lexus - 5/25/2007 7:29:09 PM

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This Lexus LF-A is in the classes as the like of Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche and Aston Martin.

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Bill - 5/26/2007 6:51:25 AM

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Image-wise, no.

Agent63 - 5/26/2007 6:22:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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I agree, with all the marketing in the world a person in the super car segment will not look into a Lexus.

LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 10:14:59 PM

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I suppose this LF-A is Lexus's NSX.

LexusLunatic - 5/27/2007 9:40:42 AM

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i think LFa is nsx territory but nsx isnt ferrari, lambo, and those cars territory. nsx tried. basic info is it will be hard to find people to buy a super car from japan and a car priced so high is almost impossible to convince.

super car you think of the ferrari, aston martin, lambo, buggati, zonda, maserati and that league.

it will be close match between the future nsx , lfa, and the gt-r

dayday - 5/25/2007 9:35:17 PM

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since when the IS started dominating 3? and since when lexus become the benchmark?

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/28/2007 6:53:25 PMView My AgentSpace

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The E92 has its own design, not a single body panel shared with the E90.

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Lexus - 5/25/2007 10:12:13 PM

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Gogo9, I thought they got rid of you man, I thought you were bann from this website, anyway welcomes back. Deep inside you know you love the Lexus brand that is why you're reading this Lexus post.

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EliteRanger - 5/26/2007 6:05:09 AM

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Looks like an S200 in all honesty, just sharper with slightly different lines. Nothing impressive at all.

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SupraNeverBack - 5/26/2007 2:52:10 PM

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It is ridiculous for some of you mentioned the 570hp high rev v10 super light weight supercar LF-A together with the A4-derived R8. That is an insult.

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Rupert - 5/26/2007 4:58:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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A4 derived R8?
Are you really that retarded? The R8's based off a Lamborghini.

LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/26/2007 10:18:06 PM

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Supra should consider changing his name; he's an insult to a great Toyota car.

S4cabriofoxone - 5/28/2007 6:54:49 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yes, and it will probably weigh 4000lbs, as opposed to the 3500lb R8. And after the LF-A comes out (or before), Audi will have its own 550hp+ V10 R8. So, nice try.

LexusLunatic - 5/27/2007 9:12:01 AM

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Lexus is the most classy brand in Japan. Lexus will do wonders with the IS platform and should create a proper sports coupe. I wish they would have one instead of giving the IS-F so much hype. What if it fails to perform? Lexus handling has never been the best so they should make a real sports coupe to fight on this battle against the 3 series coupe and the g37 coupe.

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/27/2007 1:14:24 PM

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BTW, Do you live in Japan? I ask this because Merc and BMW do better as compared to Lexus in Japan.

LexusLunatic - 5/27/2007 7:58:04 PM

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no no i do not live in JPN but I think it is the most classy brand coming out of Japan in terms of luxury cars. Lexus is no.1 here in the US not because it is more classy than the competitors but it has lots of good features combined with traditional good toyota quality. i think with those traits people will buy them and especially when general lexus cost a hand less than a mercedes. we here in america always look for what is the best with money can buy and lexus has filled the gap in the market for people not seeking the most expensive car but an overall good technology and good luxury features.

not much curb appeal as a s600 benz but i think the top range lexus is good at catering to its target consumers.

LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/27/2007 10:56:16 PM

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^^Completely true.

EliteRanger - 5/27/2007 12:04:34 PM

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Exactly, Lexus is the most classy brand in JAPAN!!! Maybe even in North America, I don't know or care to be honest. However, Europe, where we actually have taste, Lexus certainly aren't the most "classy" brand, or anywhere near it.

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Rupert - 5/27/2007 12:56:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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Classy really is the one word I wouldn't use to describe Lexus in Europe.

LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/27/2007 1:11:52 PM

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O mighty European, kindly guide us, the intellectually-poor, morbid, tasteless Americans.

Teach us in the wise ways of deciphering taste and class.

Kindly enlighten us poor souls who live in this side of the Atlantic - we all know we are barbarians and uncivilized brutes compared to you Europeans.

LexusLunatic - 5/28/2007 2:08:55 AM

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like i said the top range lexus may not have as much curb appeal or that europe luxury you are talking about but lexus is catering to people who does not want to lose a limb paying for a car so it is the best choice.

i never said it was better than europe cars but for a hand less it is value. lexus may not be a europe prestige brand but i think as long as it does well here in the US it is good enough because toyota only want to expand here for us originally.

i do not blame europeans for not liking lexus. but as i say before lexus does well for the consumer type they cater to. may not be as exclusive like a european but lexus is not marketing expensive like mb for example. they fill in the gap where people may not have the extra limb to spare or people who may not be looking for a expensive car but still want reliability and some jpn technology built in.

that is what i think. i love the lexus cars out today but i know they are not as exclusive as the europes cars but in someway it is different consumer looking for different things. that is why i dont hate europe fans because it is a little different buyers.

Rupert - 5/27/2007 6:41:30 PMView My AgentSpace

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I'm not saying Lexus isn't classy in the US, or that Lexus isn't a good car, but in Europe Lexus doesn't have class, doesn't have a good enough image yet. If I was in the US I probably would say Lexus had class.

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LexusNumberOne4ever - 5/27/2007 10:55:06 PM

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My response was aimed at 'Ranger, who clearly has no decency being on an international website.

STJ88 - 5/28/2007 3:13:05 PM

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Lexus sold 72% more cars this year in germany.

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Rupert - 5/28/2007 6:53:44 PMView My AgentSpace

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Dodge sold 18000% more cars this year than last in Britain.

S4cabriofoxone - 5/28/2007 6:57:02 PMView My AgentSpace

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The percentage means nothing if they went from 1,000 cars to 1,720 cars. Audi, BMW and Merc all sell over 200,000 cars a year in Germany alone. Lexus sells 50,000 cars in Europe annually.

S4cabriofoxone - 5/28/2007 6:56:08 PMView My AgentSpace

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Wow, "LexusLunatic," you have very honest opinions and you seem to be a true CAR FAN. Not someone who just likes one brand- but one who can admit faults in their favorite brand and admire others. I like that.

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