Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG (2007-)

sewingmachine submitted on 10/04/2007 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 9:19 AM
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AMG engineer snubs the BMW M3

Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG (2007-)

'The guys at AMG are different,' mused the Mercedes designer. 'They have fewer constraints. We just send them the car and they do what they want.'

In the case of the C63 AMG, created in Affalterbach by the long-established tuning company now owned by Mercedes-Benz but still independent in its attitude, that means fitting a compact family-sized car with a 6.2-litre V8, developing 451bhp and 442lb-ft of torque. Zero to 62mph comes up in 4.5 seconds. Top speed is electronically limited to 155mph. The C63 AMG sneaks ahead of the new BMW M3 (414bhp, 0-62mph in 4.8 seconds, 155mph) - and has a substantial edge in the mine's-bigger-than-yours argument. 'The M3,' said one AMG engineer dismissively, 'has only a 4.0-litre V8.'

As the old American petrolhead adage goes, there ain't no substitute for cubic inches, and the hand-built AMG V8 also packs in plenty of race-developed technology and no-expenses-spared components: variable camshaft adjustment and a magnesium variable-intake manifold, a new ultra-quick fuel injection system and large motorsport-spec engine and transmission oil coolers are fitted, just like those in Mercedes' latest DTM (German touring car series) racers.

Stuttgart taxi meets DTM racer

With all its 6,208cc there's no need for a turbo, and this naturally breathing engine can be revved up to a perfectly high enough 7,200rpm. Power peaks at 6,800rpm and torque at 5,000rpm. The C63 is clearly a rather different prospect to the M3, which doesn't reach its maximum torque until 8,300rpm, whereas the Merc's peaks at 3,900rpm.

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Kinger - 10/4/2007 9:42:40 AM

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A 6.2-litre V8 developing 451bhp and 442lb-ft of torque verses a 5.0-litre V8 developing 417bhp and 372lb-ft of torque for the IS-F. Yeah, the Lexus will be faster alright...

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Hwany - 10/4/2007 10:02:27 AM

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hahaha Lexus will not smoke this car at all. Read it you idiot.

0-62 to 4.5 secs. Will be like 0-60 in 4.3-4.4 officaily.

With all the hype that IS-F has created, I'm just surprised its just 3 more hp than M3.

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vtandon - 10/4/2007 12:39:17 PM

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Are you a freakin idiot. Do the math moron.

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FULEXUS - 10/5/2007 2:16:06 AM

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Smoking the Lexus crack again!!

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adamblack - 10/9/2007 9:06:05 AM

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yes is-f is faster than mercedes c63 and mercedes is only for cocky rich poeple mercedes is not for racing it's only for showing that you were rich]]]]]]]

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LexSucks - 10/4/2007 10:14:38 AM

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Why do you lexus retards have to hijack every post. What the hell is wrong with you guys? You guys seem like a bunch of insecure idiots.

When Lexus starts to sell as many cars in europe as BMW does, then I'll pay attention. Until then I'll consider Lexus as an American brand that only Americans seem to like. The rest of the world is smarter than that. They know a Toyota when they see one and the Lexus IS-F is indeed a Toyota.

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Auto_expert - 10/4/2007 6:13:49 PM

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It's because they are so insecure about their favorite cars. Maybe it makes them feel better to scream in everyone's face about how Lexus is so great in order to justify their own purchases of Lexus.

Hey Lexus fans, get over it, many people that actually enjoy driving don't care about Lexus or any of their products. Many wouldn't even consider looking at one.

People that are looking for "point A-to-point B" vehicles that can parallel park themselves, have cushy rides, and so on the ones you should be babbling to, not driving enthusiasts. REAL enthusiasts know the difference between the pretenders Lexus and Infiniti, and and the real deal (Audi, M-B, and BMW). So, save your energy, because you're not going to win any converts. Try your sales pitches on someone else, because you sound like used car salesmen.

Hwany - 10/5/2007 8:21:03 AM

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haha yeah. Even in Korea, Lexus only sells becaus the price is much cheaper than any other German luxury brand. So all the ppl who want's an "import" but can't not afford Germans, buy lexus.

david999 - 10/4/2007 10:18:47 AM

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Those are impressive numbers on the C63.

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njshift - 10/4/2007 10:53:29 AM

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Maximum torque at 3,900rpm. I love it!

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Bill - 10/4/2007 11:46:33 AM

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An amazing car, no doubt. All reviews I've read have been extremely positive about the C63, especially in regards to handling and sharpness. Looks like the boys over at AMG did their homework.

I'd be more interested in the European C320 CDI, however. I wish this car was sold here. I think it would be something my wife would enjoy. Actually, she doesn't need all that power. A C230 CDI would probably do.

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mmeecc - 10/4/2007 11:56:49 AM

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C220 Bill

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Bill - 10/5/2007 10:39:56 AM

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Thanks!

mmeecc - 10/4/2007 11:57:08 AM

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But yes, great car!!

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answer - 10/4/2007 11:59:43 AMView My AgentSpace

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AMG guys always do good work.

Just this morning I was staring at a black E55 wagon. If they can make a damn wagon look good, they can do just about anything.

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Will_ - 10/4/2007 4:36:59 PM

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In that case, you'd think Dodge could work miracles for their line-up as well...

Threepoint1415926 - 10/4/2007 12:04:24 PM

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Does anyone know the weight distribution? I know the AMG guys were trying to slide the V8 pretty far back. Cant wait for the comparison reviews.

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Monk - 10/4/2007 1:35:27 PMView My AgentSpace

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54/46 - it's not bad at all I think http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0709_2008_mercedes_benz_c63_amg

M35MT - 10/4/2007 12:28:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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All the cars in this class are incredible performers. But I find the new C to be flat out beautiful, so it would be my personal choice. And...WOW...that's a lot of Torque...a lot.

If only it didnt cost so much!

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M35MT - 10/4/2007 12:34:01 PMView My AgentSpace

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The steering wheel in the AMG looks so much better than the ones the sport and luxury models get.

Threepoint1415926 - 10/4/2007 12:41:38 PM

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I agree, the new C has a really really mean road presence compared to the more elegant look of the M and Teutonic look of the RS.

w209w114 - 10/4/2007 4:14:29 PMView My AgentSpace

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Im glad these numbers were posted in Autospies. This car is going to be shutting up a lot of people. Mercedes-Benz lets the numbers speak for themselves not pr and cliche marketing gimmicks.

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Will_ - 10/4/2007 4:38:41 PM

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Wow, that's ALOT of torque!

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Rupert - 10/4/2007 6:18:56 PMView My AgentSpace

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See now how came you can be rational?
Why can't the others...

germeezy2 - 10/4/2007 4:39:01 PM

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The C55 was an amazingly good car, but its handling suffered vs the M3. With all the reviews talking about the depth of the handling we may be looking at a car that can topple the M3. I also await the new MLP chassis RS4 and the new CTS-V. Man oh man I have some choices when it comes to picking my next sports sedan!

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conneem - 10/4/2007 4:56:22 PM

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With well over 100lb-ft more torque than the new M3 it has to lot more go in my opinion. I can't wait to see a direct comparison test.

What I find amazing is that the 6.2 AMG engine is actually 2kg lighter than the new M3's 4.0 V8.

It's 200kg vs 202kg

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/4/2007 6:14:23 PM

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The M3s weight is WITH fluids, the AMG is just without any fluids. But the difference stays very minimal.

Very impressive AMG! And it can rev up to 7500 rpm!

sewingmachine - 10/4/2007 5:09:37 PM

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has the mighty bmw m3 fallen from the skys? did they under estimate their competition? could the m3 come at the back of the pack after comparos r done? #'s alone, looks like it mite.

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w209w114 - 10/4/2007 5:28:03 PMView My AgentSpace

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I think BMW really underestimated the competition. Who would have thought Mercedes would have dropped the 63 in the c-class? add to that the use of parts in new AMGs close to those of the black series.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/5/2007 1:25:18 AMView My AgentSpace

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Everyone knew they would use the 6.2L in the C- they're crazy like that. But what we DIDN'T know is that it would be so great to drive. The same applies to the RS4, and hopefully, the IS-F.

c36amg - 10/4/2007 6:01:34 PMView My AgentSpace

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hahahahaa.... bmw is crying arent they !!!

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/5/2007 1:25:51 AMView My AgentSpace

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There is no such thing as a C36 AMG.

Heyhuub - 10/5/2007 2:45:54 AM

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THere was in the early - mid nineties.

Rupert - 10/5/2007 11:47:45 AMView My AgentSpace

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There was also an E36 for a short while.

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/6/2007 3:08:11 AM

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There were plenty C AMGs in the past.. C30, C32, C36, C43, C50 and the C55.

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/4/2007 6:12:48 PM

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Best big-displacement N/A V8 performance engine in the world that is currently on the market.

Goodbye IS-F!

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Hwany - 10/4/2007 10:51:52 PM

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amen!

E46_ImolaRed - 10/4/2007 10:07:18 PM

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only auto, sign.....

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Hwany - 10/5/2007 8:23:18 AM

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they are devloping dual-clutch transmissiona as well which will be more "engaging" but nevertheless, it's not a MT. But will be better!

xj13 - 10/5/2007 12:57:23 AM

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MB is King, Long live the king.

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recca7 - 10/5/2007 10:07:02 AM

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that's one mean looking machine..it has the face of i'm going to take down all those in my category..good luck benz and i hope M3 and RS4 aren't too far behind so they can all topple this so called is-f, reduce teh amount of garbage posts on this site

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