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Michigan Discovers They Be The Last Ones Still Buying American Cars

Agent009 submitted on 11/9/2009 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 10:12:16 AM

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Michigan car buyers tend to purchase what their neighbors make, but that doesn't matter as much to the rest of the country, according to an analysis of data from the "cash for clunkers" incentive program.

"We really are a whole different planet here in Michigan," said Stephanie Brinley, product analyst for AutoPacific Inc. in Troy.

For example: 81.1 percent of Michiganians traded in domestic clunkers and bought domestic replacements, but that number dropped to 42.8 percent in the rest of the nation, according to a breakdown of data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on the program, officially known as the Car Allowance Rebate System, intended to boost sales of fuel efficient vehicles.

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Michigan Discovers They Be The Last Ones Still Buying American Cars

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"higan Discovers They Be The Last Ones Buying American Cars"

009 should discover better grammer.
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 11:05:26 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

lol 1UAW, you are one to talk. Leave him be if you don't want to get ripped on in the future for grammar.
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 12:18:10 PM | | Votes: 3

Joe, your Lol was used to start a sentence...it should have a capital letter. *rolls eyes*
— GeorgeWJoke (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 1:18:19 PM | | Votes: 3

Its called payback.
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 10:14:38 PM | | Votes: 2

Maybe it's because no one likes American products because they are not as good as Japanese ones in terms of refinement, build quality, reliability, performance, comfort, features, paint, fit and finish, electronics, stereo's, gadgets and the list goes on and on and on. How can they compete when the jap's don't have to pay a bunch of prick union jerks, health care, and a partridge in a pair tree.
— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 11:18:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Actually reliability is pretty much even these days with the American manufacturers inching ahead of the Japanese. And as for gadgets I would put forward Synch and OnStar as two gadgets that the other manufacturers can not touch. I could also make a case for performance when you put American's against Japanese, I mean the ZR1 has better performance than the Lexus LAF and the Cobalt SS I beleive is a little faster than a Civic Si and nothing coming from the land of the rising sun can touch a CTS-V, I think Bob Lutz proved that last week.
— rigid (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 11:23:17 AM | | Votes: 0

You claim the American Manufacturer's inching ahead of the Japanese! Perhaps ahead of Mazda, Mitsubushi...but not Honda and Toyota.
— Invisible (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 12:20:48 PM | | Votes: 0

Honda and Toyota aren't the gold standard, I thought most people were starting to realize that... *shrugs*
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 12:39:15 PM | | Votes: -1

That's right Toyota makes the most reliable cars on the planet that is right up to the point where they accelerate to max speed and kill everbody inside them. Also for the past 2 years GM and Ford have been beating Toyota and Honda on initial quality surveys. Also Cadilac has been rated better than Lexus so it is across the board, not just hit or miss. Toyota specifically has made some changes to get themselves back on top but most of that was because they realized that they could not sustain their quality levels and still be the number 1 car manufacturer. Why else do you think they will not be doing updates to their cars?
— rigid (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 12:59:37 PM | | Votes: 0

also, good timing for the lethal honda airbags issue to resurface haha
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 1:09:40 PM | | Votes: 0

Penn you need to do a little research and you will find the Germans anb Japanese have more union workers in thier home countries and they just have the southern US and you braindwashed into thinking unions are bad when in reality the non-unionized factories have the most deaths and have some of the lowest. I know you like Porsch but you need to know every single one of them was made by a union worker.
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/10/2009 9:44:01 PM | | Votes: -1

pennfootball: Agree...
— Yonder7 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 11:19:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Yonder7: disagree
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 10:16:40 PM | | Votes: -1

Ah....Corinthian leather!
— topneuro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 11:44:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

lol
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/10/2009 5:07:13 PM | | Votes: 2

topneuro: I see your "Corinthian leather" and raise you a popped collar ;-)
— Steve (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 12:31:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Invisible: Mazda makes great cars.
— Caraficionado (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 1:44:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

I think Americans look around and see a lot of people who don't look like themselves and the result is a diminishment in an American identity which results in a diminishment of any kind of allegiance to or preference for American-made products.
— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 1:53:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

1. Cadillac CTS-V (John Heinricy): 2:46:560
2. Cadillac CTS-V (Brian Redman): 2:49:183
3. Cadillac CTS-V (Aaron Link): 2:48:902
4. BMW M3 (Michael Cooper): 2.50:424
5. Cadillac CTS-V (Jack Baruth): 2:51:153
6. Cadillac CTS-V (Lawrence Ulrich): 2:53:026
7. Cadillac CTS-V (Bob Lutz): 2:56:321
8. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X (Wes Siler): 3:08.126
9. BMW M5 (Michael Mainwald): 3:08:989
10. Cadillac CTS-V (Chris Fairman.): 3:14:292
11. Audi RS4 (Tom Loder): 3:15:702
12. Jaguar XF (Archan Basu): 3:16.670 To the person that said Bob Lutz proved that it can beat anything from the land of the rising sun. I see only one car on this list from Japan and it wasn't even in the CTS-V's class.
— montyz81 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 2:05:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

Would that be because they do not even make anything in that class? What would you like to see put a time in for that event? The Lexus L model would get dusted by the Lancer anyway. Maybe an Acord or one of those SH Acuras? I see you are a Nissan fan would you put any Infinity on the track against the CTS-V? Hell the Z would probably get beat and the GT-R would not beat it that badly and it is deffinitly in another class. Possibly an Armada could run it off the road?
— rigid (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 2:56:57 PM | | Votes: 4

Not sure where you are going with the post of all those lap times. Are you trying to prove that the only thing Detroit is still good at is stuffing a giant motor into a small car.
— Invisible (View Profile)

Posted on 11/10/2009 9:53:19 AM | | Votes: 1

The performance aspect is only a small part of the may the best car win ad campaign. Here is some blatant gm propaganda to see what I mean.

Interior Design
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4SqnpmJVXk

Fuel Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_O8Zdtzot4&feature=related

Warranty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-pPP2kK7k4&feature=related
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 11/9/2009 6:44:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

God you are a racist idiot.
— Enforcement (View Profile)

Posted on 11/10/2009 8:25:38 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Seriously when will this guy get kicked?
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/10/2009 5:12:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

this is in line with a letter to one of the car magazines from california.

the guy said just about NO ONE buys a domestic there. all the detroit iron he sees on the freeways tends to be either 1) a rental or other FLEET vehicle (cop, utility co., etc.) or 2) have out-of-state plates.
— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 11/10/2009 7:15:59 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Hey we Michiganders like safe cars, and as the trend seems to be this year Japanese cars just are not safe.
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/10/2009 6:51:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3

As a black man i have to agree it is there Hyundai, but for every racist white man there are two that are not so don't be apart of the problem this is what they want be part of the solution.
— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 11/11/2009 12:45:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Your stupidity is astounding.
— Invisible (View Profile)

Posted on 11/11/2009 10:47:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

If you look at the United Nation's Human Development Index (which takes into account life expectancy, literacy, school enrollment and per capita gross domestic product) and Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index and Wikipedia's List of countries by intentional homicide rate, you will see a pattern of which peoples have the highest standard of living, the lowest levels of corruption and the lowest homicide rates in the world and you will also see which peoples have the lowest standard of living, the highest levels of corruption and the highest homicide rates in the world.

http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/
http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate

Whitey ain't the problem.
— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 11/11/2009 3:36:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

pennfootbal:

"How can they compete when the jap's don't have to pay a bunch of prick union jerks, health care, and a partridge in a pair tree."

so THIS guy isn't a racist?

not to mention, uninformed.

japanese car plants are unionized too; and ALL japanese have to have health insurance. but the costs are but a fraction of what we in the u.s. COLLECTIVELY pay, while they ALSO get far better care for the few pennies they pay. (of course, millions of americans who can't afford it have NO insurance at all; so they pay zero, and get zero care. except in emergency rooms which cost more for ALL of us.)

japanese "socialized medicine" is so good, they rate #1 in low infant mortality rate. vs. the u.s. rank of 30-odd some! and they also have the longest lived geezers on the planet.

the japanese are just SMARTER in avoiding getting ripped off by their health/death care industry. as well as having smarter auto execs. amd managers.
— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 11/12/2009 4:33:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

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