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Misaligned Priorities? Americans Rank Number Of Cup Holders Ahead of Fuel Economy

Agent009 submitted on 2/21/2008 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 9:45:24 AM

84 user comments | Category: New Cars | Source: | SOURCE: www.forbes.com

Fuel economy is clearly moving up the list of concerns that consumers consider when shopping for cars.

General Motors says buyers now rate fuel economy as third among reasons to buy a GM vehicle (behind styling and value).

Four years ago it wasn't even in the top ten. But it seems you still can't beat lots of cup holders to move the metal.

CNW Marketing Research says interior conveniences like heated seats and cup holders are higher in priority (73%) for shoppers than fuel efficiency (67%). Mike J. Jackson, chief executive of AutoNation , the country's largest public dealer network, with 322 stores in 16 states, sees this all the time. And he says consumers may talk fuel efficiency, but they don't necessarily buy it. He spoke to FORBES .

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Misaligned Priorities? Americans Rank Number Of Cup Holders Ahead of Fuel Economy

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priorities have changed. gasoline ALMOST costs as much as a gallon of milk these days.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 10:01:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

WTF?
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 10:10:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Misaligned priorities? Damn right: arrogant, biased automotive journalists have misaligned priorities! These idiots actually think Al Gore and his "Global Warming" nonsense are more important to Americans than performance and value.

Newsflash: "Global Warming" is natural -- Al Gore has been debunked.

- Atmospheric C02 concentration tends to rise AFTER a rise in temperature -- it doesn't precede it, as Al Gore stipulated (Vostok ice core samples, J.R. Petit, J. Jouzel, 1999)

- 1998 was NOT the hottest year on record (Al Gore's hired scientist "Hansen" publicly apologized for an error in his arithmetic last year!)

- Hurricanes have NOT become more powerful (NOAA study, Feb 22, 2008)

Gotta run. Bye. Parting thoughts:
http://tinyurl.com/39gnm4
— randy33 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/22/2008 1:00:50 PM | | Votes: -2

^^This quote, among others, pretty much summarizes why you are an idiot.

"Few credible scientists now doubt that humans have influenced the documented rise in global temperatures since the Industrial Revolution. The first government-led U.S. Climate Change Science Program synthesis and assessment report supports the growing
body of evidence that warming of the atmosphere,
especially over the past 50 years, is directly impacted by human activity" (International Climate
Change Science Program)

— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 2/24/2008 7:36:00 PM | | Votes: 1

American Idol is also one the top shows on TV...

Bottom Line?

The mainstream, majority, "general public" is just a bunch of mindless fools.
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 10:12:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 18

100% agree. And they elected George Bush... twice... amazing.
— akitadog (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:19:43 AM | | Votes: 7

Who was the Dem that got us into WWII?

Who was the Dem that dropped the atomic bombs?

Who was the Dem that got us into Korea?

Who was the Dem that got us into Vietnam?

Who was the Dem that got us into the Iranian Hostage situation?

Who was the Dem that allowed innocent Branch Davidian children to die in Waco,Tx?

Dem after Dem got America into wars and the first Black President that played around behind his wife's back did nothing in Rwanda.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:55:46 AM | | Votes: -17

duqit, why were we attacked on Dec. 7, 1941 and our Navy and Army Air Corp. was destroyed?

Because the Liberal President FDR and the Liberal Congress hated to spend money on the military. The Japanese parked right next to Pearl Harbor and bombed it. They destroyed our rusting antiquated military thanks to the Democrats. Right after that all the new planes, ships and weapon systems came out because the manufactures had already designed them, but were waiting for the Government to buy them.

Jimmy Carter was the President during the Iranian Hostage Crisis and bumbled it badly.

And the Branch Davidian fiasco was orchestrated by Bill Clinton, Janet Reno and General Wesley Clark. Those people in charge pushed that crazy person over and over and then they fired in 400 cannisters of tear gas and didn't give one thought about the innocent children, and in the end they all died.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:28:27 PM | | Votes: -4

what would reagan have done to apprehend a cult leader with automatic weapons?
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:49:41 PM | | Votes: 2

First time I ever +1 to EL34
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:57:02 PM | | Votes: -2

M35MT -, I fully agree and, the worst part of it is that these idiots are breeding more and more idiots. They get the vehicles they deserve.
— EnnNorak (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:05:04 PM | | Votes: 1

1995e34, some would say that cult leaders with automatic weapons should be subjected to vehicular homicide before they can harm the rest of us.
— EnnNorak (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:07:57 PM | | Votes: 2

And then there was illegal immigrant Elian Gonzalez.

Remember how Janet Reno sent him back to Cuba?

With a machinegun in his face.

So if you want to send illegal immigrants back home just get Janet Reno.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:22:03 PM | | Votes: -2

Here's a list of what was used on the plywood compound owned by the Branch Davidians and it's occupants.

"Military Personnel and Equipment

- Personnel

Active Duty Personnel - 15
Texas National Guard Personnel - 13

- Track vehicles

Bradley fighting vehicle (OMZ) - 9
Combat Engineer Vehicle (M728) - 5
Tank Retrieval vehicle (M88) - 1
Abrams Tanks (M1A1) - 2

* The final solution

The final assault on the Mt. Carmel complex
occurred in three stages:

1) armored military vehicles punched holes
in both ends of the main building of the
complex,
2) "crowd control" gas was sprayed in, and
3) a fire started which destroyed the complex

Witnesses expected that the gas would drive the
inhabitants out. Instead, no one came out and
the complex was engulfed in fire.

Why didn't the residents come out? The
cover story as related by the FBI and
the Department of Justice is that the
Branch Davidians killed their own children
and then themselves and simultaneneously
set the complex on fire rather than surrender.
There is no forensic evidence to support
this claim.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:25:02 PM | | Votes: 2

el34, the davidians admitted to causing the fire.

check another reference besides timothy mcveigh's conspiracy sight
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:30:20 PM | | Votes: 2

1995e34, no "they" didn't, and what idiot gave the order to use tear gas on a guy that was holding hostages?

All they had to do was wait them out, but Reno and Clark in the end got their man and all the children burned to death.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:36:53 PM | | Votes: 1

EL34... you might want to read a bit about history.

The Japaneese navy steamed for two solid weeks to just the point of no return to launch the attack. They didn't just park off pearl harbor.

Also, not to make this a history thread. They thought PH was going to be attacked, but the report of the ships was bogged down and did not make it to FDR till it was far too late.
— Targa (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:53:05 PM | | Votes: 3

Targa, in military terms they sneaked right up on us because of the lack of military reconnaissance and surveillance.

Our military was joke because of the Dems.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 2:04:32 PM | | Votes: -2

el34, are you suggesting the authorities are responsible for a mass suicide, or that the authorities were the actual killers?

i think we had another jim jones on our hands, and it was bound to end ugly, regardless.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 2:57:55 PM | | Votes: 3

1995e34, I'm saying they had a hostage situtaion and they handled it all wrong.

When you have a nut holding hosatges the last thing you want to do is punch holes into his home and lob in tear gas cannister.

But, like I said Reno and Clark always get their man even if it kills all the chidren :-(
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 3:23:53 PM | | Votes: -3

Didn't mean to start a political discussion and it was not a party comment. It is a simple statement about an individual man who should have never been elected. I don't care whether he is a republican or a democrat but I think the minimum requirement to be the president of the United States is a basic grasp of the English language. It that too much to ask? However, apparently the American public didn't agree. Hence my original comment.
— akitadog (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 6:26:50 PM | | Votes: 3

If you're talking about President Bush, He went to school at Yale University, which is famous for a high standard of education.

He also was a fighter pilot during the Vietnam war ;-)
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 7:55:03 PM | | Votes: 2

A-DOG: Get a grip. Every vote is identical. We are all equal. You are better than no one. We are all the same. Everybody is the same. Nobody is superior to anybody else. Do you get this? Do you understand the concept?

Yes, America voted for Bush, TWICE. Ergo, Bush is admired by millions of people. So who cares what you think? The votes were cast. Bark at the rails all you want, but this train's not stopping.
— randy33 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/24/2008 2:11:18 AM | | Votes: 2

Might want to add some asterisks:

If you're talking about President Bush, He went to school at Yale University, which is famous for a high standard of education.*

*His father was a US Senator (and presidential hopeful) who attended Yale as well. Even as competitive as college is today, that would be an almost automatic in for nearly any student (even a C level student like Georgie).

He also was a fighter pilot during the Vietnam war ;-)*

*If you meant the Texas Air Force by Vietnam War, than yes you are correct. He never flew active duty and never left Texas while enlisted.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 2/24/2008 7:45:30 PM | | Votes: 1

That's part of why the oil companies are raping us dry; idiots are more concerned with where to stick their lattes, and keeping their plump american rears warm, than doing their part to try to bring the overpriced gas propelling them back down to a reasonable price.
— tattedtwice (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 10:12:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

back up to a reasonable price, rather
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:40:52 AM | | Votes: 3

Never underestimate the power of a well placed cupholder. And in all honesty most people aren't choosing their car based off its fuel economy. They're choosing their car based off its looks, performance, and utility(those cupholders), but not necessarily in that order. I think whatever MPG someones car gets is something they're just prepared to live with, whatever it is, because their car does exactly what he/she wants it to do.
— PlanB (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 10:17:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

If the need for fuel-efficient (read diesel cars) cars had dawned on the American automotive segment a decade back, we wont have these GREEN ACTIVISTS (idiots) making all this fuss about saving the environment. Right from the 80's Europe and Asia embraced fuel-efficient cars; to be precise Europe went the diesel route while Asia went for gasoline engines which were extremely fuel-efficient. Most engines didn't cross the 2 litre or the 2.5 litre mark. Whereas in the US, the first car for a teen will be a truck (8 litre monsters to say the least) that threw fuel-efficiency to the winds. Don't even get me started with the emissions! So there we go, Americans have had misaligned priorities from the oil-crisis years. Thankfully, the need for fuel-efficient cars has finally dawned upon the Stateside top 3 makers.
— teuton (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 10:20:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

What's wrong with the corvette?
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 10:57:51 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

And where are you from. Some Nirvana where everyone has a high IQ and is slim and trim?
— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:06:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8

amazinBimmer, you say we're fat lazy pigs?

How come the USA in the Winter and Summer Olympics has way more medals than any other country?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:57:23 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7

el34, cause we pay our athletes far too much.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:24:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

1995e34, Olympic athletes don't get paid to perform in the Olympics.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:29:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6

team u.s.a. basketball and hockey players are paid quite well. and when baseball was an olympic sport, the up and coming players that fielded our teams were often months away from a big payday as pros.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:40:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

And the punchline is that BMW doesn't make a car faster than the Corvette Z06 or ZR1. The Corvette racing team has been dominating the GT1 racing class for quite some time now.
— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:58:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

amazinBimmer, why do you denigrate Americans in general for the ignorance of some? Is a particular American politician pissing you off?

Every country has or does something that others do not appreciate. The U.S. is still the number one choice among people all over the world who are looking for a better way of life.
— EnnNorak (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:16:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8

Lets do a little experiment. Clearly this guy is an asshole. Arguing with him is about as effective as arguing with an actual asshole. How about it everyone makes it a point to not deboost, not reply, and not attempt to win him over with logic and reason whenever he posts a foolish, ignorant, asshole-ish comment. I bet he just fades away...
— jpighetti (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 4:07:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

Never underestimate the importance of keeping hydrated.

First of all, America has always had more stringent emissions laws than anywhere else...the rest of the world is only now embracing this. Europe's diesels, until recently, were terrible polluters. They bought diesels and small engined gas cars because gas is/was so expensive there. Fuel in America is still relatively cheap, and until it's significantly and constistently higher, Americans will never embrace fuel efficient vehicles to the extent of the rest of the world.
— Hachee2001 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:17:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Do you think all americans are like that?
— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 2/22/2008 3:39:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

These pollsters should have taken into account the disposable income of their respondents. I suspect that as gasoline prices rise, and/or as one's budget tightens, gas mileage will become a higher priority.
— Audiphile (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:36:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

I know it is easy to use this screaming headline to bash American consumers, or to deny the desires for fuel efficient vehicles. But when you look a little closer, the findings are not quite so inflammatory.
"interior conveniences like HEATED SEATS AND cup holders are higher in priority (my emphasis added)." Interior conveniences presumably would also include amenities like cruis, premium audio, tilt/telescoping, lumbar, on and on and on. I would imagine those items to be quite important to consumers as most of our time is spent inside the vehicle staring at and using those conveniences, but NOT JUST the cupholders. That fuel efficiency is ranked so closely to those features is a highlight, not a slam.

But no, CNW, who seems to have it out for fuel efficient vehicles, (Who funds these guys, big oil, or Big 2?), hihlights the dumbest part of it (cup holders) as a way to show the gullible public just how low people's concern for fuel efficiency is. And then they find one knucklenhead at a dealership to confirm their suspect claims. And they throw out a fact that contradicts them (the shift to CUVs) as being unrelated to a desire for fuel economy.

Not to mention the significance of GM's own internal findings, which contradicts those of CNW. "General Motors says buyers now rate fuel economy as third among reasons to buy a GM vehicle."

Any writer can take an idea and find whatever evidence they want to prove that idea, no matter how far-fetched the idea is. Good journalism rises above that by doing unbiased research, and then reporting the facts with solid analysis, coming to defensible conclusions, without resorting to hyperbole. Shame on Forbes for such shoddy auto journalism. Honestly, auto journalism is some of the least professional writing around, and I'm not just talking about blogs.

Please dont fall into these writers' traps. Think when you read.
— 1970toyotamarc (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 11:37:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Let me tell you something about this research, they never asked me what I thought was important in an automobile. So I take it for what's worth.

Where I live in Irvine, California we have miles and miles of walking and biking paths anyone can use all the way to the pacific ocean.
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:02:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Read closely...among reasons to buy a GM vehicle. When looking for a fuel efficient car is GM the first company that comes to mind, no. So of course it's not going to be high on THEIR customers list of priorities. As the same question of a company that is known for fuel economy and you will get a totally different answer.
— tcatnat (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 12:14:31 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Honda is more Domestic car than any other cars made in U.S. So, how could you make this statement?
— Homer008 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 8:19:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Need one? I'll have a buddy in the Navy bundle it in with our next airdrop in your country.
— randy33 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/24/2008 2:20:32 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Damn, tons of America hating on this board all the sudden (for the people, not the cars the U.S. makes)....sad, in a country of 300+ million , it's fair to say we run a WIDE gamut of people in our great country. To see 'we' are all fat and lazy is just as bad as saying that 'we' are "ALL" white blue eyed, white-picket-fenced-home people.

There are clowns in any country, there are tons of spoiled brats, and hard working, family loving people too. Just by shear numbers of the people in our country, there are tons of every facet of our society.

The fact is, in America, we have huge amounts of land, so we can, as a country, 'afford' to stretch our legs more than in other countries. We don't have to drive dinky 1.2L Diesels if we don't want to. We can have bigger homes, if you so desire. We can drive bigger cars that get worse milage, if we want to. We consume more, because we have more.....it's not my fault we have tons of land and the Europeans don't.\

I was just lucky enough to be born here, drive the car I want to, live in the house I want to, marry the one I wanted to, and buy a car because of the cup holders, if I wanted to :)

I don't hate Italy or France because they have prettier big cities than my country does :)

— jeeka715 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:08:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7

jeeka715, my guess is that most of those America-hating idiots lust after American cars.
— EnnNorak (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:24:42 PM | | Votes: 4

you make some profound observations. your IQ must be near 200.
— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:18:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

amazinBimmer, I agree only that the health care system sucks but you are wrong about the fit and finish of today's American cars. American car manufacturing methods have caught up with the best that Europe and Japan can offer. Quality today is not only consistent but is also excellent. About engines, like you, I favor DOHC engines over pushrod engines. The Cadillac NorthStar V8 is a testimonial to GM's ability to produce an efficient powerful DOHC engine at a fraction of the cost that Mercedes or BMW would charge for similar performance.
— EnnNorak (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:32:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

The Cadillac CTS has a far better interior than the BMW 3 Series.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 7:58:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Bottom line: Americans don’t care about fuel efficiency! All they care is how much food they can eat inside their cars, how big a soda the cup holder can hold, how big their wheels are with tones of bling. If the American consumers had their way, they want a condo on four wheels so they can flaunt their wealth and have enough room to fit their big fat ass.
— cckw (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 1:35:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Im american, and yeah, MPG is near the bottom of my priorities when I buy a car nowadays. Im 21, and I would rather enjoy my drive then drive a boring appliance. My Mustang and 300zx serve me well for spirited driving. I dont eat in my cars, but I dont mind cupholders for drinks.
Oh and pray tell, what country are you from?
— Obliv (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 2:08:22 PM | | Votes: 3

cckw, We have Condo's on wheels, they're called Winnebago's and we have had them for a long time. As jeeka715 put it, to hate America(ns) is to wish you were or lived here. And for the record I do care about fuel economy but at this point not enough to pay a $3k - $5k premium to buy a specifc models equivalent hybrid version.
— tcatnat (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 2:08:46 PM | | Votes: 4

Cup holders are good :-)
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 2:05:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

Im not obese, Im not lazy but I love my cupholders! I have to put my bottles of water/coffe somewhere. Who seriously cares about fuel economy anyway. As long as it fits your budget...
— no1listensanyway (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 3:31:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Gentlemen, The US was born on the convenience store. Where would be as a civilization without the 7/11's, the Speedy Stop, the Circle K's, the Pantry's and the AM/PM's of the land? The US drives more miles to work each day than most countries drive on vacation. How many times have you yourself have to clean up a Dr Pepper or Slushie from the seats and floor mats of your car. Cupholders are as American as Freedom and Democracy. All hail the mighty cupholder that can conform to various sizes to maintain it vertical stance. Damn you people for wanting to take our cupholders away. Damn you straight to hell.
— rocker (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 4:39:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Gasoline is affordable enough in the US not to be a serious concern. If the US was paying, say $6/gallon, they might be a bit more converned about fuel economy than cup holders. Pretty simple, isn't it?
— Steve (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 6:03:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Steve,
That's exactly my point. We have a different situation over here, than in Europe. We have $3.30 (in Southern California for 91) gas. We can consume more because we can afford more (as a nation - not all people here are 'rich', by the way)....

Becasue we can consume more because are economy affords us the ability, we get creamed on by SOME Europeans who look at us in disgust, when I would think that some of 'them' want to be bigger consumers, but can't because they don't have the economy to allow it. Taxes in Europe on gasoline/goods, etc are high because they are trying to preserve what precious resources are left. That's just a fact.

We have more land, people, affluence, goods, needs, wants, etc....That is a fact.

Not all Americans care about how many Big Macs can fit in their glove box, I just don't but that at all, BECAUSE I LIVE HERE, I KNOW WHAT DAY TO DAY LIFE IS!

cckw, you are stereotyping 300+ Million people all at once...terrible.

There are tons of lazy asses who are skinny too ya know! They are called college kids :) Kissing.

Bottom line, we can...because we can.....
— jeeka715 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 9:12:37 PM | | Votes: 2

Let it be known that there are tons of speling errors in my "lazy American post" :) :) :)
— jeeka715 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 9:14:09 PM | | Votes: 1

"speling"..........like that one :)
— jeeka715 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 9:14:35 PM | | Votes: 1

I am going to go out on a limb here and say there are far more people who DON'T fit the American stereotype than those who do.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 2/21/2008 8:00:43 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

who needs to care about fuel efficency when we have Bush sucking oil in iraq
— mwrmmg (View Profile)

Posted on 2/22/2008 1:56:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

EL34- George Bush was NOT a fighter pilot during the Vietnam War. He was trained as a fighter pilot, but DUCKED OUT of combat along with his good friend and equally brave draft-dodging buddy Dick Cheney.
The one who actually fought and got shot was Kerry, who then got swiftboated by rightwing swine, during the '04 election.
Save your tripe or I might have to come down to OC and smack you one. I much prefer your non-sensical jokes- I like the way you rile folks up on this site (but not all the time). This is serious stuff, there's no humor in lying for Bush.
— Lyall (View Profile)

Posted on 2/22/2008 2:01:20 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

On the note with Mr. Bush, can anyone list out the official cars of Presidents/Prime Ministers of all the countries? I know for a fact that the Malaysian PM is driven around in a Proton, now that's true patriot! So now, the rest of the list please, anyone?
— teuton (View Profile)

Posted on 2/22/2008 11:38:44 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

....and I reckon British PM Mr. Brown is driven around in a Jag XJ? Probably his next car is an XF or the Aston Martin Rapide!
— teuton (View Profile)

Posted on 2/22/2008 11:45:01 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

EL34. I'm sorry to inform you, but President Bush was not a fighter pilot during vietnam. Check your facts.
— snatchandgrab (View Profile)

Posted on 2/22/2008 12:18:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

eh who cares...gas is still cheap in the u.s.a. ooh $3.50 a gallon...europe and japan pay 7-9 dollars a gallon!!! Plus I need my morning cup of joe when I drive to work, thus a cup holder is important lol.
— xlr8 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/23/2008 1:02:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

I guess V10 diesels and V12 2-seaters are super fuel efficient?
The difference is Americans don't hide the fact they like big thirsty trucks. Europeans like to pull the holier than America act eventhough they like to burn oil just as much.

Another misconception/delusion is that the US benefits from Middle Eastern oil. N.A.'s oil comes from Canada, Venezuela, Mexico and domestic production.

18% comes from the Persian Gulf as of 2004
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

The truth is Japan and the useless Europeans need the middle east but can't secure it themselves, hence their resentment and reliance on uncle sam to do it for them.
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/23/2008 1:33:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

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