More Images: Audi A5 and Audi S5

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Here are some brand spanking new images of the Audi A5. The Audi A5 will be offered in two petrol engines including a 1.8T FSI that produces 170 horsepower and a 3.2L FSI V6 that produces 265 horsepower giving it the ability to do 0-60 mph in 6.1 seconds.

The Audi A5 powertrain features a six-speed manual but the 3.2 FSI. The Audi S5 features a V8 that produces 354 horsepower and a peak torque of 325 ft-lbs. at 3,500 rpm giving it ability to do 0-60 mph in 5.1 seconds. A six-speed manual and quattro all-wheel drive come standard. Read Article

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VinnyP - 4/17/2007 10:42:15 AM

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Anyone notice the first and third photos are the same shot, but with some Audi photoshop done to change it from city to country...

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jon21 - 4/17/2007 10:58:50 AM

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Wow...good eyes man! Cheap cheap!

jon21 - 4/17/2007 11:04:54 AM

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Lots more pictures are the same picture, but different background. Look at the second set of pictures below the first set.

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budfrogS4 - 4/17/2007 11:26:12 AMView My AgentSpace

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That article says it'll come with the 1.8T? Is that right? You'd think they'd put the 2.0T in there.

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budfrogS4 - 4/17/2007 12:54:20 PMView My AgentSpace

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Sorry my mistake. 170hp still seems a bit underpowered even for the entry level. I almost wish they'd just have the 3.2L and the S5 to keep the coupe a bit more exclusive. The new 1.8 would be great in the A3/4 (if it's newer than the 2.0).

Rupert - 4/17/2007 3:05:20 PMView My AgentSpace

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170 hp is enough, it's the same as a 323i.

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 3:36:16 PMView My AgentSpace

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Not if you are american rupert! Unless it still achieves a <30 mpg fuel economy!
Can't you imagine what would happen if you showed up in your 170 hp Audi?! You would be the laughing stock at the office! It would be horrible. Even though you might be able to option the car out and still save some money... You would run the risk that some crazed Camry owner would "win" in the classic stop light to stop light drag race... That would be aweful! Imagine the shame... You might as well drive straight home and hang yourself, because you would never be able to walk outside without everybody knowing how you "lost" to a CAMRY!!! :D

BTW: They don't have the 323i in the US... The smallest US engine option is the 328 which is actually the old E46 330i engine...

Rupert - 4/17/2007 4:18:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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ah yes, American Hp....you know they think a 525i is underpowered? And that has like 200hp!
But it's so odd that their smallest engines are so big, I mean where's the 323 or 325 or E280 or whatever?!
And I wouldn't mind a 1.8tfsi A5 or a 323i for that matter. My mum has a 323 convertible and it's quick enough especially since she does town driving and isn't a street racer, and it sounds great. If it does 0-62 in under 9 seconds that's quick enough really. I have a 1.4 VW Lupo with 75 hp, and that's not the base engine, and it does 0-62 in 11.6 seconds. I could have had a 1.0! It's a town car, it doesn't need the power! But when the roads are all straight and wide, maybe you feel you need the power and don't need a small vehicle.
What's funny is even their economy cars like the corolla have 1.8s as base engines and the Golf and Jetta have a 2.3 5 cylinder! That's our old V5 golf engine! No 1.6 or 1.6 Fsi, no 2.0, and obviously, no diesels.

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 4:46:21 PMView My AgentSpace

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Utahkid... It obviously isn't... Because a car enthusiast doesn't need lots of power! At least a driving enthusiast doesn't... The Suzuki Swift has been heralded as a driving wonder in europe... And it only has 90 hp!

And as to the embarrasing thing in getting beaten by a Camry, I don't see it... If you drive an A5 3.2 FSI in Europe, you can be pretty sure you won't do much but see the tail lights of hot hatches "beating" you! I've beaten an A3 3.2 DSG with my Seat Leon Cupra... So what do you think will happen to a heavier Audi A5 which costs twice as much?! Hell, the Opel Corsa OPC will make mince meat of just about any Audi with an engine smaller than the 4.2 V8... But i'd still rather have an A5 3.2 FSI than the Opel Corsa!
And to be honest, I couldn't care less if an idiot in a camry was to "beat" me in some silly drag race (he probably would since I wouldn't join his stupid race) because that says more about him than it does about me! And I'd still know that I was in the better car...

I like cars with big engines, but i think the notion that a big engine is necessary to make a good car is simply stupid! But I guess that is a point europeans and americans will never agree on...

S4cabriofoxone - 4/17/2007 5:18:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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The US A5 is standard with the 265hp 3.2 V6, and the only other engine option right now is the S5's 360hp V8.

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 6:08:57 PMView My AgentSpace

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200 hp is seen as alot in europe... But yes, it probably does have something to do with the expensive fuel (around 8$ pr gallon) but also the fact that cars are generally much more expensive in Europe... But mainly it is due to the different car cultures. In europe we are used to small compact cars that handles well because of our roads, in the US, cars have always been big and not very well handling due to the long straight roads.

jeffy210 - 4/17/2007 12:16:03 PM

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Didn't an earlier article say something about getting diesel engines? will they only offer petrol? :-\

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EnnNorak - 4/17/2007 12:44:55 PM

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Does it have the same Quattro as the A6 or some cheap AWD system without a Torsen ceter differential such as on a VW or an A3 for example? This question needs to be clarified as Audi uses the term "Quattro" to describe all their AWD systems, even the lesser ones. Too bad there is no automatic transmission offered in this article.

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Heyhuub - 4/17/2007 1:42:34 PM

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Same quattro as A/S/RS4 A/S6 A/s8 etc

S4cabriofoxone - 4/17/2007 2:29:56 PMView My AgentSpace

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The Torsen is actually the better system, but Haldex is on the A3/VW models. A5 has Torsen, 40:60 split front/rear.

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 3:12:49 PMView My AgentSpace

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I don't get why Audi doesn't develop a fully variable AWD system... They already provide the best AWD system even though it is, on paper, the underdog! Just imagine what they could do with a system which can provide any setup from 100/0 to 0/100... Anyway... I don't care, I'd still rather have Quattro than xDrive, the only turn off for me with this car is the engine options! I hate the 3.2 V6 and the 4.2 V8 is above my budget... I would love to see this car with the 3.6 l V6 in the Passat R36 or maybe a 3.2 TFSI engine with around 300 hp... If they reveal such an engine, I'll be on the waiting list! No duobt! I love this car! The more I see it, the more i like it.

BTW: The last generation Passat had Torsen, not Haldex, but that was because it was built on the A4 platform...

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 3:38:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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BTW S4... Don't you love the sleak look of this car? :P

Heyhuub - 4/17/2007 3:51:07 PM

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It would be pretty logical if they put a 300hp 3.6 in it, since that would be a more direct competition for 335i.

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 4:04:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yes... My thought exactly... But I fear that they might think it is too close to the S5. But I guess I'll just have to wait and see!

Will_ - 4/17/2007 4:45:05 PM

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TheSailor doesn't two-door vehicles as true "enthusiast cars." I'm surprised to see him even take an interest in this vehicle. :P

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 4:53:37 PMView My AgentSpace

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LOL... Are we a bit crossed?!

First off, this car is a two door car, which I said was the true enthusiast car...

Also, I never said I disliked cars with more than two doors or the engine in front of the driver, I just said that the best cars all have two doors and the engine behind the driver... The M5 is a "true enthusiast car", but it isn't as great as a Porsche or a Ferrari... That is pretty obvious.

Furthermore, I'd love to be able to own a mid engined car, but unfortunately, I have to take other things into consideration when I buy a car such as the price (I.e. that an S4 is 200.000 $ where I live and the S5 will be even more).

S4cabriofoxone - 4/17/2007 5:20:58 PMView My AgentSpace

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Sailor, just to clear things up about the "best car" ad, I don't think the S is the best car for ME-- I Just think it offers something for everyone, in every age group. The car that I'D most want to own? Some variant of a 911. Probably a Turbo Cabriolet.

S4cabriofoxone - 4/17/2007 5:21:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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Hm... I don't usually capitalize random letters ("Just") in my posts... maybe it's because my hands are resting on an uneven book as I'm typing?

TheSailor - 4/17/2007 5:29:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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I still think the Veyron is a better car... But lets not continue that discussion, because I seriously doubt that we are going to agree!

BTW: I'm with you all the way with the 911 Turbo! That is one awesome ride! Unfortunately, the 997 Turbo (no Turbo conv. in Denmark, didn't know you could get one) is almost 600.000$ here... So it'll probably be another year or two before I can afford one of those (as if)! :D

Will_ - 4/17/2007 7:14:01 PM

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OOoops! Well, you got the point. ;)

TheSailor - 4/18/2007 9:16:27 AMView My AgentSpace

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I'm not real big on the whole diesel thing, i work with them on the ships I sail on, but that's it. I don't like the characteristics of high compression engines. And since I am away half of the year and don't need to drive to work, I only drive around 5000 km pr. year and I earn enough to pay for the petrol, so I'll stick to gasoline until a powerful fuel cell car is out... So I guess I'll be driving my gasoline cars for some years to come!
If I had to drive 20+ km each day to and from work, I might consider a big diesel engine...

The only two diesel engines I really like are the Mercedes 420CDI and the Alfa Romeo 2.4 JTD... And I'm probably gonna like that new Audi V12 aswell... But that is because it is so big it reminds me of work!

BTW: Will ABT take over the warranty, or are their chips approved by Audi, because elseway you run the risk of void of warranty if you modify the engines ECU... And not just for directly affected components... Nope... The complete driveline! I know a guy whose Audi A3 had a transmission malfunction after 6 months, but because the ECU had been altered a chip that wasn't approved by Audi, they refused to cover the damage!

omarrana - 4/17/2007 1:44:10 PM

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TDI will not be offered in the US for some time. Only in UK

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drakarula - 4/17/2007 7:10:53 PM

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Can't wait to drive it!!! Love it!!!! Move over BMW there is a new car in town that will take away sales from the 3 series!!

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iamdabest1 - 4/17/2007 11:25:23 PMView My AgentSpace

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i saw the s5 at ny auto show. pictures dont do it justice. it will definitely take away sales from bmw 3 series although the 3 series is just as good.
it will come down to the price. which ever has better lease deals and is cheaper to buy will sell better.
does audi have a free maintanance program like bmw ??????

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Agent63 - 4/18/2007 7:36:56 AMView My AgentSpace

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I can't believe they are having a low end 1.80T engine on a coupe like that. They should make a V6 standard and have two models like the 328/335. Even the 328's numbers are getting .5 of a second too close to the V6 A5.

I think it's a stunning car though. The interior isn't as boring as the one in the 3-series. Apparently this is intended to be set above the 3series/CLK market because of it's bigger size.

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Rupert - 4/18/2007 8:45:00 AMView My AgentSpace

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Low end? Someone's obviously never heard of a 318i coupe. Or a 320i, 320d, 318d, CLK 200K or any of those smaller engined cars.

TheSailor - 4/18/2007 9:29:12 AMView My AgentSpace

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Sevorbeupstry:

Less = more... You are talking to deaf ears here... Americans have a completely different take on engines... Bigger is better! Why do an economic 1,8T engine when you can build a 2.8 liter V6 with the same kind of performance?! It might pollute more, be more expensive and use twice the fuel, but who cares?! :D

Agent63
I, personally love big engines, but that is because i'm damaged... I can't help it, but to many people, power isn't that important. I know that in America, prestige is directly proportional to displacement, but I think Audi (IF they really bringing that engine to the US) might be trying to teach the Americans that a car won't need an engine with 6 or 8 cylinders for it to be prestigeous and the 1.8TFSI really is a small masterpiece...
In Europe, the 1.8T will be a huge success, no doubt about it, and in the US... Well, if you don't like the engine, just steer clear of it!

Agent63 - 4/18/2007 5:50:47 PMView My AgentSpace

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Rupert,

Yes obviously I've heard of those models. I'm simply comparing the price you pay and the engine you get. I think it's safe to say that with that price tag most of the cars within that pricing offers a V6 never mind the thought of 'bigger is better'.

TheSailor,

I'm not so much a fan of the power but in my own personal view a car that is situated in a market littered with V6 or I6 they should at least meet the industry standard.

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Feel no need to be offended as I only said low-end 1.8 because the 1.8 or 2.0 engines like that are offered in a Jetta, GTI, Passat, and even the Beetle. I think that since it is Audi they would change it up a bit. I never said it was a bad engine though.

TheSailor - 4/18/2007 6:29:33 PMView My AgentSpace

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Well you might have a point with the larger engines in the competitors cars, but are they even going to offer the 1.8T in the US?! They don't offer it in the "lower" A4, and on Audi's american website under the A5, they only mention the V6 3.2 FSI... But I think that if they were going to offer it, it would be priced lower than the competitors... But I guess we're back to the prestige issue then?

I don't think they will offer it in the US, the european engine program is much larger for all Audi's and BMW's cars (I think it is the same for MB, but i'm not sure)... They usually just offer two or three different engines, and since fuel prices isn't as big an issue in the US and cars are generally cheaper, it seems unlikely that the 1.8T will ever see an american coast...

Agent63 - 4/18/2007 10:49:25 PMView My AgentSpace

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Sailor,

No definitely not prestige issue here. I just think it should be a standard to offer a I6 or a V6 especially when it will be situated a little higher than the 3 series coupe market. It just doesn't seem right in my books to have a 1.8 or even a 2.0T for that matter in a car of this size. I know to some power may not be an issue but that's besides the point. 1.8T or 2.0T is way under powered.

I agree with you though as I doubt it will hit the US market. I also think that in North America where it seems to be the biggest in terms of HP wars people would prefer a more powerful engine for simple bragging rights. It is after all a sports coupe.

S4cabriofoxone - 4/18/2007 11:24:06 PMView My AgentSpace

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The US A5 is standard with the 265hp 3.2 V6, and the only other engine option right now is the S5's 360hp V8. I REPEAT.

Agent, why do you (and everyone else) think that the A5 is bigger than the 3 Series? IT'S AN A4 COUPE. It is 183 inches long, compared to the 181-inch 3 Series coupe and 183 for the CLK!!!

Agent63 - 4/19/2007 5:58:48 PMView My AgentSpace

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Is it also in the same price range as a 3 series then?

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agentbb007 - 3/27/2008 2:20:13 AM

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...Here's the problem with Audi...
On 1/4/08 I went into the local BMW dealership sat down with the salesman and customized my 335xi coupe exactly how I wanted it, color of leather, options etc.
My salesman sent me 4 emails during construction of my car letting me know when it was in the body shop, when it was shipping etc. I felt like I was tracking my BMW through the entire build process.
On 2/15/08 my salesman called and told me my 335 was ready for pickup. 41 days and I had my 335 with all the options I wanted, EXACTLY the way I built it on BMW's website.

Tonight my brother went into the local Audi dealership and said he would like to customize an S5 and put an order in.
The salesman said something like - Oh we can't get any S5's, your looking at 10 months at the least and even that doesn’t guarantee you’ll get a car. And you can't really customize a build, you kinda just have to take what comes available. So for $60k you can wait 10 months and *maybe* get a car, and maybe it’ll be in a color you like and maybe have the options you want. My brother also inquired about storing summer/winter tires, to which the response was we’ll we don’t really do that unless maybe if you buy the tires here.
And on top of all of this the salesman NEVER stood up off his ass, he was sitting on a chair typing on a computer. My brother was so annoyed he walked around his desk to see what he was typing and he was typing emails! I know responding to his emails is important but for hell’s sake you’ve got a customer here who wants to buy a $60k S5 get off your ass and show some customer service.
Is this pretty much the way most Audi dealerships operate or do we have a really shitty one here?
If the sales experience is this shitty I can only imagine what awaits him should he need to use the service department!!
After this experience my brother is looking into a BMW 335xi coupe himself. It’s too bad because I love the S5 but with this horrible sales experience and Audi’s inability to build enough cars to meet demand just kills the deal for me. After this experience no one in our family will ever be walking into an Audi dealership again.

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