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More New NSX Pic & Info Revealed!
Honda is quietly confident the new NSX will outperform the R35 Nissan GT-R.

The team at Holiday Auto (Japan) are working very hard to bring the latest news about the upcoming Acura NSX and their latest report includes one or two surprises. The first of which is the 5.5L V10 engines adoption of VCM (Variable Cylinder Management) which is a direct result of increasing oil prices and Honda’s own desire not to be seen as a manufacturer which has no regard for the environment when it comes to high performance cars. Apparently the new 5.5L V10 will use VCM to shut down one bank of cylinders in constant speed driving situations which will reduce its capacity to 2.75 liters. The new V10 will be manufactured on a special line at Honda’s new factory in Saitama prefecture. Torque has been confirmed at 60.0kg/m and a massive output of 600ps through all four wheel is expected to be produced. You could say that the V10 is basically a 10 cylinder version of the LE-A 4500cc V8 which will power the next generation Acura RL, although the ‘V’ angle of the V10 will be 90 degrees whereas the V8 will be 72 degrees, making the NSX’s V10 truly unique. Special pistons and conrods, as well as a dry sump and fully balanced internals are other features of the new V10. The body of the NSX along with the RL will be assembled by specially trained craftsmen at a new plant being built in Ogawamachi, the reason being to allow parts sharing between the two models and to enable the same high level of build quality.

Despite a comprehensive equipment list and the heavy SH-AWD drivetrain the NSX is still expected to tip the scales at just under 1500kg. For a big two seater coupe that kind of weight is worth noting, especially considering the incredible performance of the much heavier Nissan GT-R. The aerodynamic package of the NSX is said to include front fender slits which will help expel air from the engine bay and reduce lift, as well as and underbody design incorporating the front bumper, side skirts and rear diffuser which will also help direct air from the engine bay and channel it under the car to the rear diffuser. Using knowledge obtained from their Formula One program the underbody aerodynamics in conjunction with the rear spoiler will dramatically reduce lift and add downforce which is said to make the car extremely stable at speeds up to and over 300km/h. The Acura NSX will follow its predecessor and have different sized wheels and tires, with Bridgestone RE070R 255/30R19 up front and 295/35R20 at the rear.

As far as performance is concerned, the natural rival of the NSX is the R35 Nissan GT-R but this is not to say that it will be priced and optioned in a similar fashion. The upcoming Acura NSX is expected to sell for around 16,000,000 yen and its true rivals are said to be the Jaguar XKR and Aston Martin Vanquish. This of course means that the NSX will have much higher standard materials and fit and finish compared to the previous NSX and buyers will certainly feel that the asking price is justified. Being a true luxury sports car won’t impede on its abilities at the circuit though, once the Nissan GT-R’s time of 7:29.00 at Nurburgring has been achieved Holiday Auto say Honda are sure to continue on and try for a time faster than the Nissan GT-R Spec V!
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MercedesBenz00ZMercedesBenz00Z - 7/13/2008 12:46:29 AM
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hao420hao420 - 7/13/2008 1:33:02 AM
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Such a Power and affordable super machine......<(big hit 4 Honda/Acura)


hao420hao420 - 7/13/2008 1:35:58 AM
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Powerful<type too fast


MercedesBenz00ZMercedesBenz00Z - 7/13/2008 1:38:49 AM
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affordable? There is a better word for this. and it is "Cheap".


hao420hao420 - 7/13/2008 2:38:22 AM
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Better than those Germany crap,MB in japanese opinion just a "Europe style muscle car"(keep boost up power,that what they can do).....<


F1_DriverF1_Driver - 7/13/2008 4:11:21 AM
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Care to explain which car or cars the LF-A rips off?


stomp17stomp17 - 7/13/2008 8:18:54 PM
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Hao, just shut up dont EVEN compare your rice-burner to Europe's fine cars.


MercedesBenz00ZMercedesBenz00Z - 7/13/2008 9:30:42 PM
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Hao, learn English first, and just to let you know, the Japanese know that Mercedes is a lot better than that crappy Honda or whatever.

and you are not even a Japanese, so shut it.



audirevolutionaudirevolution - 7/13/2008 10:34:37 PM
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By looking at his user name, Hao is probably Chinese.
He likes Japanese cars because his grandma was raped by a Japanese imperialist soldier in Nanking. Now he thinks he's Japanese himself.



audirevolutionaudirevolution - 7/13/2008 10:37:51 PM
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And by the way, Hao:

The Japanese KNOW that the Germans are the benchmark.
The engineers for the GTR compared it heavily with the Porsche 911. IS-F engineers closely looked at the M3.

Also, all of my awesome Japanese co-worker friends drive Mercedes..and they all speak perfect English.
Unrike your Engrish.



HokkaidoWindHokkaidoWind - 7/14/2008 12:22:41 AM
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Wow,look what u guys done to Hao420........<


audirevolutionaudirevolution - 7/14/2008 12:33:05 AM
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HokkaidoWind:

You're not fooling anybody. You just made that account today and your old username was Hao420.
You speak the same engrish and, well, who else does this................<



Bmw8terBmw8ter - 7/15/2008 5:45:23 PM
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"You speak the same engrish and, well, who else does this................<"

Dude, that's funny as hell!!!



delandelan - 7/13/2008 12:50:49 AMView My AgentSpace
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Fiddly dee! Looks like the Acura "beak" is here to stay.

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senorgatosenorgato - 7/13/2008 1:35:32 AM
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mplsmpls - 7/13/2008 1:40:25 AM
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Nice front and rear and the specs sound interesting.

Regarding its looks, Now BMW cannot just slap a BMW grille on the front and call it their own, it'd be too obvious.


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fuelfoolfuelfool - 7/13/2008 3:51:51 AM
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Sorry Honda, no matter how well this car performs, it doesn't have the presence, pedigree or prestige to compete with the Aston Martins of the world in price. Honda would've been infinitely better off using this design for a $35K, 300+ hp coupe to compete with the G35 Coupe, Lexus IS350, BMW 3-series coupe, etc.

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Agent63Agent63 - 7/13/2008 7:29:02 AMView My AgentSpace
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and the GT-R which is a Nissan can compete with prestige against Porsche and M3?


100octane100octane - 7/13/2008 3:52:34 PM
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japanese car manufacturers and the word prestige in one sentence. i read it but my brain just cant bring it together.


sold2earlysold2early - 7/13/2008 5:30:30 AM
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The headlights look like the tail lights of a Z4 turned upside down.

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Designer1Designer1 - 7/13/2008 7:06:19 AM
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The connected tail lights don't look good, just take them off. Also change the front lights, otherwise the car shape is very nice.

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fuelfoolfuelfool - 7/13/2008 9:04:21 PM
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I disagree. Not only do they look good, but the originality of the design is refreshing. In addition, they harken back to the tail light design of the original NSX


SSP350SSP350 - 7/13/2008 12:12:24 PM
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The rear lights looks horrible in my opinion. Not really feeling design of this new NSX.

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JudasLeaseJudasLease - 7/13/2008 12:40:26 PM
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I Hope they don't name it NSX. And like all new Honda/Acuras, it will probably be very ugly.

Sad.....


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SteadFastSteadFast - 7/13/2008 2:16:08 PM
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I've been waiting for this car for a very long time. I can't tell you how many times I've kicked the tires of a 911 Turbo or M6, only to end up without the will to pull the trigger on the purchase. I've even went so far as to temporarily quell my thirst with the Nissan GTR (brilliant machine), but only after 471 miles and 2 days that darling has now gone to a new owner, who made me an offer I couldn't refuse. Besides the NSX in it's tip top form is what I'm really after. Granted there have been some significant disappointments along the way, particularly the new upfront residence of the engine. All things considered the front engine is not a concern at all once you take in the total package that makes this car so unique. To have a Honda F1 derived V-10 with SH-AWD, VCM, high tech componentry and materials, all for probably the price of a 911 turbo, that is undeniable to any true car fan. It's been a long time coming but it's sure to be worth the wait!

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SoSnootySoSoSnootySo - 7/13/2008 4:05:35 PM
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I love how this story was also tagged Nissan GTR. Anyways. Interesting PHOTOCHOP of the spy pics.I pray to god the true reveal doesn't have those aweful headlights. They do not look acuraish. Notice how the left rear view mirror has been erased in the second pic by the photochopper. And also that bulge on the bonnet looks stupid. I actually like the power plenum grille instead of what this artist did. It would probably look nice on this car.

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IS3andMEIS3andME - 7/13/2008 4:50:00 PM
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Fuelfool is a idiot. Gordon Murray used the 1st gen NSx as one of his bench-marks for the F1. Also the NSX put Ferrari's 348 on it's ass. Making Ferrari boss Luca to claim a couple years ago that the 348 was Ferrari's worse car, and not mention the fact the the GMC Typhoon was faster than it as well.

And the fact is, yes Aston may have V12, but they at one time came from putting two Ford Duratec V6 together


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SoSnootySoSoSnootySo - 7/13/2008 5:28:04 PM
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One name: Mr. wolf. a bad ass character driving a bad ass car. Too bad Honda doesn't do that kind of marketing anymore (at least not much of it) It's as if Audi is everywhere on this... (Recent movie: Wanted)

Anyone else sicj of seeing the same audi cars in the movies?



JudasLeaseJudasLease - 7/13/2008 6:44:26 PM
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Yes, the original NSX put Ferrari and EVERYONE on their toes, it was that good.
We have seen however the competition blow past the NSX and Honda concentrate on trucks/SUVs instead of sporty cars. The S2000 is old, they canned the INtegra/RSX, the Prelude died, the Accord is huge etc etc.

I simply don't expect the same success here even if it performs fantastic. Who is going to buy a 100k Honda or Acura?



fuelfoolfuelfool - 7/13/2008 9:18:27 PM
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"IS3andME", your knowledge of the automotive world and ability to process information seems to have peaked around 1991. A fine car this NSX will be I'm sure, but $150K is not the playground the NSX should be playing in. The GTR got it right at $70K. On the other hand, as I stated before, were Acura to produce this car as something other than the NSX and give it around 350HP it would do great as a G37 Coupe competitor. Keep reading your Road&Tracks from the early 90's IS3andME and trust me when I say that the market will prove you to be the idiot when it comes to a $150K NSX.


ChicaneShooterChicaneShooter - 7/16/2008 5:16:19 AM
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honda is obviously aiming at the LF-A, not the GT=R.

there are few rivalries as intense as that bet'n honda and toyota. for awhile, they were the ONLY ones keeping CART and IRL interesting.
and once toyota got into F1 racing, of course honda HAD TO return to do battle.

both cars will be showcasing their respective F1 v10 engines.



MBCLS07MBCLS07 - 7/13/2008 9:29:58 PM
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"IS3andME", your knowledge of the automotive world and ability to process information seems to have peaked around 1991." –fuelfool

Classic! IS3andME, consider yourself burned.


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M35MTM35MT - 7/14/2008 8:17:27 AMView My AgentSpace
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Looks alot better than the last concept.

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thisismynamethisismyname - 7/14/2008 9:15:23 AM
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I'm glad to see acura look entirely past the GTR and twords the Aston, the old NSX outclassed (design and exotic feeling) the old GTR, as so it should be for the next one. However Acura can't forget about the G37 coupe market... that's a good amount of bread and butter that would be lost to Infiniti and BMW. Even with an incredible NSX, the void in this market will surely spell disaster for the "Sporty" division of Acura.. "can't afford a NSX then get a...a...um...well, we don't offer anything sporty other then the NSX, want to talk gas mileage and technology?"

The rumour that the V10 will find it's way into the RL would lead me to think the V8 slated for the RL could find it's way to romoured TL coupe (CL replacement). And thus the +300hp v6 from the TL/RL could find it's way to the TSX coupe.. that would be closer to the number we need to see from acura.
I can only hope Acura is holding back the sport versions and the bigger engine options for the release of the rear-bias SH-AWD coupes.

500 hp RL, +400hp TL coupe and a +300hp TSX coupe... worth hoping for...

Not likely though, due to it being the correct move to get their cars upmarket to where they need to be to compete..Acura has always prided themselves in technology, it's now time to shift gears to speed and handling..


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