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Never seen before spy Photos " is this the CLS killer from BMW??"
I believe this is the new CLS killer from BMW, pictures taken in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. I first thought its a Lexus!! what you guys think??

Hamad Anoohi
Dubai, UAE




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Will_Will_ - 6/8/2007 2:45:41 PM
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It looks big enough. I like the shape of the roofline. It has a very large rear though. And since when has BMW been using Mercedes-esque turn signal lights on the back of the rearview mirrors?

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MoJaZeF286MoJaZeF286 - 6/8/2007 3:08:49 PM
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the door handel looks like lexus! rims and front end looks like BMW, and my friend is saying its the new jaguar S type!! please help :)

Hamad Anoohi



S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/8/2007 11:34:52 PMView My AgentSpace
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It IS the new Jaguar S-Type, but it's not called the S-Type, it's called the XF. Although you had a misnomer, thank you so much for these great spy shots!


pacotacololpacotacolol - 6/9/2007 8:50:38 PMView My AgentSpace
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Don't any of you guys read CAR & DRIVER????????????



JRobUSCJRobUSC - 6/8/2007 2:55:48 PM
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that's a Lexus LS. The side profile isn't BMW at all, and the rear lights and rectangular exhausts look to me like the LS. Will, you're a Lexus guy, thoughts? BMW puts mock turn signals on their mirrors for test cars all the time, by the way.

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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 6/8/2007 2:59:44 PM
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nevermind, I stand corrected, I think that might be the new 7-Series. It has the Hofmeister kink and the wheels are very BMW. Doesn't look coupe-ish enough for the CLS competitor though, I think it's the new 7.

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TheSailorTheSailor - 6/8/2007 3:01:20 PMView My AgentSpace
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A new 8-series maybe?

It's hard to really see anything from those pictures, but from what i can see it looks really good...


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TheSailorTheSailor - 6/8/2007 3:13:15 PMView My AgentSpace
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Actually, after looking a bit closer at those photos, I have to agree that it does look like a Jaguar, so it is probably the XF...

BTW: Nice weather you have there in Dubai... Looking forward to going there in about two months...



Auto_FanAuto_Fan - 6/9/2007 8:08:18 AM
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The Sailor, if you are going to Dubai in two months, don't expect a nice weather. Its already above 45C degrees, and in August it will not be cooler. Unless you like the heat, you will be stuck in airconditioned cars, hotels and shopping malls. Nevertheless, there are lots of things to enjoy there. Good luck with your trip.


TheSailorTheSailor - 6/9/2007 10:23:41 AMView My AgentSpace
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Nahh... I'll be on my air conditioned ship trying to avoid the engine room (60+C)...

But hopefully, I'll probably be doing a lot of sitting in a car and visiting a lot of shopping malls as well... :D



Will_Will_ - 6/8/2007 3:06:00 PM
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Well it's definitely not an LS. ;)

I don't think it's a 7-Series either. If this is the next 7-Series, there will be serious issues with headroom for rear-seat passengers. The 7-Series should have more headroom in the back than what we see here...


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/8/2007 11:35:30 PMView My AgentSpace
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It's the XF, I'm telling you now.


SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 6/8/2007 3:06:02 PM
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It looks very good in my opinion. Ugly Bangle design is fading away. That's a good thing.

This is the new 7-series I reckon.


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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 6/8/2007 3:07:01 PM
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With the low roof, looks more like it could be a BMW 6 series sedan; unless they're adding dual exhaust on the new 7 series.

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bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 6/8/2007 3:08:11 PM
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that looks like a jaguar xf, by the roofline the front, and that crease running down the bottom, it looks like the spy shots of the xf

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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 6/8/2007 3:11:15 PM
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I have to agree with you on that....looks exactly like the camo xf.


snatchandgrabsnatchandgrab - 6/8/2007 3:15:20 PM
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It looks like the Lexus LS

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Will_Will_ - 6/8/2007 3:19:28 PM
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JAGUAR!


It's a CX-F that's closer to production form.

http://upload.moldova.org/auto/Jaguar/Jaguar_C-XF_Concept_02.gif


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MoJaZeF286MoJaZeF286 - 6/8/2007 3:25:17 PM
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You win the car ;) Haha good job!

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 6/8/2007 3:24:14 PM
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And you call yourself car fans?

It looks nothing like a Lexus OR BMW of any kind.

It is quite obvious that it is the XF.


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Will_Will_ - 6/8/2007 3:25:29 PM
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lol. Only AFTER it's been figured out.


MoJaZeF286MoJaZeF286 - 6/8/2007 3:26:40 PM
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now that we know its a Jag, we dont care about it Haha


Bmw8terBmw8ter - 6/8/2007 3:27:29 PM
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Let's give the guy an "A" for effort.


mineralwalkermineralwalker - 6/8/2007 3:27:55 PM
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wow,from these pics i think it could be a 7 or 8,the front end gives off sort of an E60 front end,but i mainly think it could be a 7 or 8 because on the door handles those look like sensors,a lot of plastic supporters underneath,bangle butt looks there, and its hard to tell how the rear looks,course thats why its disguised,sry for the long comment

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MoJaZeF286MoJaZeF286 - 6/8/2007 3:30:12 PM
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its the new CAMRY-F cant you read the old comments?


Bmw8terBmw8ter - 6/8/2007 3:30:23 PM
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...refer to responses made to MATTHEW above


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/8/2007 11:36:56 PMView My AgentSpace
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MoJaZe, you're out of your mind if you think the new XF isn't a good car. Jag is making a comeback- look how sexy the new XK is.


JUGNUJUGNU - 6/8/2007 3:55:31 PMView My AgentSpace
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That looks like Lexus LS to me.Look at the tailpipes and somewhat rear fascia is akin to the new LS.

JUGNU


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AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 6/8/2007 5:20:40 PM
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That is the F01(new 7 series)

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AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 6/8/2007 5:27:27 PM
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Or it could be very well be Jaguar...

BMW or Jaguar- take your pick...


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Homer008Homer008 - 6/9/2007 4:36:18 AM
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I pick a Jaguar..definetely not a Lex. b/c the wheel spoke isn't Lex's taste. Probably a waterdowned version of the new XF. This will be the make it or break it attempt and posibly a final one at that for Jag.






530N52530N52 - 6/8/2007 5:28:44 PM
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Door handles and tailpipes look like Lexus.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/8/2007 11:33:17 PMView My AgentSpace
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IT'S THE NEW JAGUAR XF!

I'm so excited for that car to come out- it looks just has hot as the concept!


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/8/2007 11:33:52 PMView My AgentSpace
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BTW, unlike you guys, I am 100% sure about this one. It's easy to see from my point of view.


urbansouljahurbansouljah - 6/8/2007 11:34:23 PM
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It's the XF. That's a fact. I have enough spy photos to know this.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/9/2007 12:36:57 AMView My AgentSpace
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Oh, it even has Jag wheels. Those are the standard rims on the XK, right?

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LexusLexus - 6/9/2007 12:10:59 AM
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It look like it got the Lexus LS rectangular shape exhaust, but I don't think it the Lexus LS. I says it either the Lexus GS-F or the new Jaguar XF. I guess we have to wait and see; I hated when they tease us with this camo cars.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/9/2007 12:36:00 AMView My AgentSpace
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Can you not get it through your head that there is NO GS-F right now? They would put it at an auto show before they actually put it out as a test mule. And this doesn't even look like a GS! It's the XF!


chewychewy - 6/9/2007 12:39:23 AMView My AgentSpace
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Nice catch. What are you driving?

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WickedRabbitWickedRabbit - 6/9/2007 12:42:54 AM
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it's the XF. They just put a little piece of tape in the center to make it look like the grill is split into two parts. Similar photos surfaced of this for the XF a few days ago. It's NOT a BMW and it's NOT anything else. It's the XF.

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LexusLexus - 6/9/2007 1:08:05 AM
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So I guess it got be the Jaguar XF than, if it not a Lexus or BMW. I hope will maintain most it prototype design cue.

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themantheman - 6/9/2007 2:25:19 AM
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I think its the new 7 Series..But its surprising to see test cars in the UAE, I guess its become such an important market that manufacturers have to test their cars specifically there...Not surprising considering Bentley's are like taxis there..

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SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 6/9/2007 4:11:31 AM
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Ok so it's definitely the Jaguar. The reason why I thought it was a BMW is because I saw the typical BMW Hoffmeister, something so many car company's have copied over the years.

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CzelinskiCzelinski - 6/9/2007 7:13:19 AM
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Must admit, it's hard to say. But those door handles really are very Lexus, and it wouldn't be long until they started copying MB by placing indicators in the wing mirrors. Very possibly Lexus...But it does still look very BMW at the same time. I'm confused :S

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Htay7500Htay7500 - 6/9/2007 8:34:39 AM
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can't really judge yet from wat im seeing in these camos.

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SubmarinerSubmariner - 6/9/2007 10:13:05 AM
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facelift GS, dude.
Check those door handle n the curve of the c-pillar.


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MoJaZeF286MoJaZeF286 - 6/9/2007 12:12:18 PM
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its can never be a Lexus. You fill a Lexus with gas from the Left side of the car, this car you fill it from the right side :)


atomicbriatomicbri - 6/9/2007 11:08:39 AMView My AgentSpace
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JAGUAR, that is what it is.... the XF... like these photos of it better!

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DeboDebo - 6/9/2007 12:19:40 PM
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DIS EEEZ DA NEW JAG XF.... Check out the lower creases of both doors..

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six50isix50i - 6/9/2007 2:25:35 PM
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I highly doubt its the new Jag..if you look at the rims those are specificly from the current 7 series.also the backlights look alot like the shape from the BMW CS CONCEPT...also the Jaguar 4 door, has a much larger grill than that, the spy shots from that car proove that this small grill is coming from something else..it probably is the new CS CONCEPT..front pictures coulda done the trick, to really see what it is.

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TimETimE - 6/9/2007 3:09:00 PM
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That's Jaguar XF.



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cdokecdoke - 6/9/2007 6:35:30 PMView My AgentSpace
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Maybe it is the fact that I am one of oh about .02% of the population that can visualize 3-dimensional objects in my head and that as a result I am partially eidetic that I find it complete lunacy that there have been over 60 messages here, when there is absolutely no doubt.

That is the Jaguar XF. It is not a Lexus, it is not a BMW, it is not a Saab, a GMC, a Mercedes, a Yugo, or a HUMMER. It is the Jaguar XF and none other.

As far as the supposed appearance of the Hoffmeister kink, I suggest to you that such is an artifact of the grainy images combined with the camouflage. I may be wrong but I would place money on the idea that the chrome surround has a similar form to the XK coupe- which describes no kink. Such a thing as a kink, would be an anomaly given Jaguar's design scheme.


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cdokecdoke - 6/9/2007 7:25:48 PMView My AgentSpace
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...and yes, I overpuncuate


Matthew1Matthew1 - 6/9/2007 9:57:00 PM
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Just so you guys know, I assumed it was the XF before 'jagexpert' told us so.

But thanks for not having faith. I'll go cry in my corner now.


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/11/2007 1:36:56 AMView My AgentSpace
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six50i, you're wrong, sorry.

"also the backlights look alot like the shape from the BMW CS CONCEPT...also the Jaguar 4 door, has a much larger grill than that, the spy shots from that car proove that this small grill is coming from something else.."

Also, the "backlights" are similar to the JAGUAR XF CONCEPT...

And how can you tell how large the grille is from this picture? It's not small, BTW. Take a look at it relative to the rest of the front end.

Are there only a handful of people that can see this? How do you guys not know? Am I going insane?


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seattles4seattles4 - 6/12/2007 1:23:35 AM
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That's not a BMW... I saw pics of the new BMW concept in my co-workers new Bimmer mag issue this weekend =)

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SteveSteve - 6/14/2007 5:19:44 PM
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I think it's too camouflaged to know what it is, or to be news. But then again, the caption "Covered up car seen driving somewhere" doesn't get attention. Does it?

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rynocouserynocouse - 6/14/2007 11:22:16 PM
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The shape of that back trunk lid looks styled like the BMW 6 series to me. But what would I know? im a Audi fan boy ;)

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