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New & Future Cars: Honda S3000?
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New & Future Cars: Honda S3000?
A typhoon of rumors has been swirling around Honda's headquarters in Tokyo, Japan, about the company's next generation of sports cars. While we have already seen spy photos of the future NSX, we have not seen anything about the next-generation S2000. A source close to the company revealed that Honda is indeed in the process of building such a car, but wouldn't disclose specific details.
The OSM (Open Study Model) concept car definitely raised some eyebrows recently at the London show, but that car was just a convertible version of the CR-Z hybrid sports car shown at the Tokyo Motor Show last year. The OSM was penned by Honda's European design team, and our people tell us that the real S2000 successor will have much more influence and input from Japan. Also, the CR-Z and OSM have been engineered as front-engine/front-wheel-drive models, and the S2000 successor will no doubt be a rear-wheel-drive car. So apparently the OSM has nothing to do with the S2000 successor. Or does it...?
There's the possibility that the OSM may very well be a design study of the next S2000, wearing the veil of an open-top CR-Z to throw us off. There was also a sighting of a mysterious prototype sports car near Honda's R&D headquarters in Japan that seemed to share the OSM's proportions, yet looked completely different. Could this be another design study of the S2000? We think so, so we took pieces of that car, melded it with the OSM and came up with this image, a handsome car with an Audi R8-esque face, a long hood and a profile reminiscent of the current S2000.
As for what will go under the hood is still unclear. There have been rumors that Honda may equip the car with a V-6, perhaps a new 3.0-liter or the 3.5-liter in the Acura TL, thus the name S3000. In the U.S., this makes sense because it would give the car much more low-end torque (something we Americans love), not to mention improved smoothness and quietness for freeway driving.
With such an engine, you can expect power to be in the 280- to 300-bhp vicinity, enabling a 0–60 run in the sub-5-second range. The more probable choice is a 2.2- to 2.5-liter inline-4. Honda, which has traditionally shied away from big-displacement powerplants, may feel that a 4-cylinder engine makes more marketing sense in this age of high gasoline prices. There's also talk of a simple hybrid system.
Only those directly involved with the next-generation S2000 project know for sure what the car will be like. We'll know for sure in 2011, after Honda releases the NSX and CR-Z.
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dlin
- 9/25/2008 2:00:04 AM
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Let's pray.
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hao420
- 9/25/2008 4:48:41 PM
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Just put in production.....
LexSucks
- 9/25/2008 8:57:24 AM
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Hopefully they'll give this one some torque.
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Hyundai
- 9/25/2008 10:05:10 AM
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Don't you have one?
LexSucks
- 9/25/2008 10:28:36 AM
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Why do you ask?
Hyundai
- 9/25/2008 2:19:02 PM
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Because I believe it was you who had said they had an S2000. Maybe it was Star.. I forget.
LexSucks
- 9/25/2008 2:49:33 PM
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Nah, Never had an S2000. I've seen plenty of them and they seem to require a shift or two just to get out of a parking lot! You really have to rev the crap out of them (and really work the engine) to get any power. I prefer effortless power.
The S2000 was and still is a very nice car. I just prefer something with a torque number that isn't in the 100s
Hyundai
- 9/26/2008 1:59:33 AM
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I agree. I guess that must have been Star that has the S2000. Judging by his posts, you would have never thought so.
1995e34
- 9/25/2008 8:57:31 AM
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needs a fixed roof!
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AmazonPrinceIS350
- 9/25/2008 9:02:31 AM
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Will it be better than the upcoming Z4? :)
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AmazonPrinceIS350
- 9/25/2008 9:02:31 AM
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Will it be better than the upcoming Z4? :)
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Star
- 9/25/2008 11:10:06 AM
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It's a Honda. It competes with Hyundai and Toyota, not BMW.
stash84
- 9/25/2008 2:46:14 PM
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yeah..lol..honda and toyota are very reliable..i dont know about hyundai..i think it competes with bmw as far as reliability..i always see those 2 brands broken down in the shop...bmw is NOT a luxury brand..just look at their interiors..nothing luxurious about them..they are just AS EXPENSIVE as luxury cars..cmon..the 3 series, luxury??...lmao
B7FAN
- 9/25/2008 9:06:03 AM
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Gorgeous job HONDA I hope people over 6ft can fit in this one.
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Whelan
- 9/25/2008 10:05:55 AM
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I loved the S2000 my ex's mother had an 04 and it was so much fun to drive. Who cared about the low end it was small, light, and quick enough for me. And you could play in one gear forever to redline.
I was always impressed by the fact it had a 240hp N/A 4cylinder under the hood.
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SixxFive
- 9/25/2008 10:31:52 AM
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Have always like the S2000 but the cabin is so small that at 6'5" I could never get my legs inside the car!
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sizquik
- 9/25/2008 12:33:02 PM
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Can we get a HARD TOP please.
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Whelan
- 9/25/2008 1:02:12 PM
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Well I am only 5'9" fit perfectly, and loved the feel. You could not wear a setabelt and the side bolseters would still keep you in place.
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E36er
- 9/25/2008 1:06:36 PM
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The S2000's 4 banger has always been a little nervous because of its high reving engine and light body but man does this thing move! I recently had a chance to drive my friends S2000. Reving the engine near its stratospheric 8,000 rpm readline is an exercise in shear terror and delight. I know there’s a lot of talk on this blog about how the Japanese copy everything which is true for Toyota but that’s not necessarily true for Honda. Just about everyone in the auto industry, including BMW and Porsche, has some version of Honda’s original V-tec variable valve technology. Yes, the Germans copy too. This technology was ported over from Honda’s experience in F1 racing. Soichiro Hondas mantra that engines should be more efficient and smaller not just bigger and stronger is still embraced by Honda although this may change with the introduction of the next generation NSX. Let’s hope that the S3000 builds on the foundations of the S2000 by maintaining a small high reving engine with more torque this time.
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abcd
- 9/25/2008 3:22:46 PM
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This isn`t even true for Toyota , only for Lexus but recently Lexus stopped copying .
Honda`s Vtec technology was transfered from their motorbike engine REV , I doubt it was invented for F1 engine prior .
Designer1
- 9/26/2008 7:24:38 AM
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Its beautiful, hope the production will look like just like this one. And yes, its far sexier and has better quality than the ugly Z4.
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rawbux
- 9/27/2008 4:15:44 AM
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Don't like Honda's but, this thing is good lookin'
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