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New Infiniti G37 Inspires Lust At First Sight
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submitted on 11/02/2007
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New Infiniti G37 Inspires Lust At First Sight
Hit the starter button in the Infiniti G37 coupe and it's as if electricity flows through your body.
Pull the automatic transmission lever into gear and it's as if somebody substituted a precision-tuned rifle bolt for the shifting mechanism. Lean into the throttle and it's as if somebody answered your prayers.
Sweet, smooth, slick, sudden. Infiniti gets it.
Oh, sure, you murmur in Neanderthal tones. Nice for all the boy and girl racers. What about the rest of the world? You know, the folks who like a little flavor in their Jell-O, but not some muscle-bound machine that you can't drive in traffic and that sets the neighbors cluck-clucking.
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Star
- 11/2/2007 3:56:07 PM
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Wow...this review is complete b**ls**t. I took two test drives with the new G37 and I thought is one of the worst cars I ever drove. The car is awfully cramped inside, feels really heavy, the engine is extremely noisy, the transmission and the clutch belong in a Ford truck , and I swear if I didn't know the number of horsepower this car has, I would 've thought it has less than two hundred based on the way the car pulls. Under 5000 RPM this engine is as weak as the engine in a Honda Civic. This is a pathetic piece of garbage, an under-engineered wannabe premium car that is not worth the time to test drive it. I pity anybody in America that buys cars based on this full of s**t reviews that lie people in the face. I remember reading a review not long ago in which this G37 won against the BMW 335i and even if I was in doubt that that's the truth, I could not help but wonder how good this Infiniti is. Well, now after driving it I can say one thing: anybody that says the G37 compares or even comes close to a BMW 335i deserves to be shot. Only delusional freaks(or people paid by Nissan) can say that this piece of trash G37 is comparable with a fabulous machine like the 335i.
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pushrod27
- 11/2/2007 4:05:23 PM
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Wow. you're on your own with that one dude. I've never heard anyone say anything but good things about the Nissan/Infiniti VQ V6 engine. It's always been a delight throughout it's rev -range. I've tried it in a variety of applications from Maxima to I35 to FX35.
I'll agree with you that the G37 topping the 335i is b.s., but i can't say it's a terrible car. My old 3.0 VQ in my 98' maxima had incredible pull from the low-end to the redline, so there's no way the new 3.7 is bad like you say it is.
I haven't driven a G37, but my experience with Nissan's V6 tells me that you are way off pal.
Star
- 11/2/2007 4:11:35 PM
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"I haven't driven a G37, but my experience with Nissan's V6 tells me that you are way off pal."
Drive it my friend...then let's talk. I agree that G35 was not such a bad car, even if was not quite BMW territory.
1995e34
- 11/2/2007 4:14:26 PM
+7 Boost
best v6 in the history of v6's
pchera01
- 11/2/2007 4:14:30 PM
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I can you are ajust blind or ignorent BMW fan or lexus fan, trying to make it look bad Infiniti
Star
- 11/2/2007 4:19:52 PM
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I forgot something..Even if I am not a fan of Infiniti design I can say that the G37 looks good inside and outside. Is the driving experience that buries the car.
xxxxG37
- 11/2/2007 4:30:34 PM
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Star - What do you know about G37? You compared the G37 with the Honda Civic. What are you thinking? You should do some homework.
AgentOrange
- 11/2/2007 5:09:30 PM
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It looks good in the driveway and impresses the neighbours - doesn't that trump performance and handling? ;)
SHOWTIME
- 11/2/2007 7:03:12 PM
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Star, I really don't think your senses are working properly. It's either that or you're waaaaaaay overexaggerating.
Feels under 200hp? Pulls like a civic? Please!!
DieselRules
- 11/8/2007 11:56:23 PM
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I think the Nissan V-6 has been on Ward's best-10 engines list longer than anything else ... certainly longer than anything else from Japan.
But "Star" knows more about engines than Ward's does.......
RedG37SNC
- 12/18/2007 7:15:56 PM
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I'd agree with Star on the crampness on the G37, and by the way I own one. It's due to the integration of the dash with the doors, that part sticks out a bit and hits your arm. A lot has to due with your size too, I'm a big guy. As for BMW, two things kept me from this car, one I don't care for the looks, the G is an easy win both inside and out, and there's also reliability, face it I'll see a mechanic a lot less often. The other car I considered was the Audi A5, very sharp car, but the features on the G were better, although I did like the command controls near the arm rest very handy. The Nav and audio system on the G is great, full ipod integration, music box. Inteligent cruise control are very cool features. If there was one thing I'd like to change it would be to make it less stiff. I'm not a track driver, just wanted a nice looking, lux coupe with a touch of sport.. the car pulls fine for my taste :)
richard112360
- 11/2/2007 4:30:25 PM
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I recall a recent test between the G37 AND BMW 335i and the the 335i was sent limping home with it's tail between it's legs.....it had overheating issues.
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pushrod27
- 11/2/2007 5:09:26 PM
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then you should also recall that the 335i was faster, with better ride, handling, and brakes. Also Motortrend did a comparison test where the G37's power steering quit. Anyone can get a bad example that doesn't work at any given time.
richard112360
- 11/2/2007 4:31:49 PM
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I recall a recent test between the G37 AND BMW 335i and the BMW 335i sent limping home(overheating issues) with it's tail between it's legs.
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Star
- 11/2/2007 6:11:23 PM
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"its a hard choice between the two"
Not for somebody with basic comprehensive skills and basic knowledge when it comes to cars.
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SSP350
- 11/2/2007 6:41:25 PM
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Star, you're obvious oblivious to any other car makes besides BMW or any other German makes. Your idiotic rant about how horrible the G37 is pretty obvious that you took the test drive just to say its bad just so you can prove you drove the car - and no matter how good it drives - you'd still dismiss the car. I've owned a 350Z before and the V6 engine is amazing. It shouldn't be any different in the G37 - plus, I think most comparison between auto mags have said its either a tie or the BMW won by a very slight margin or vice versa. For you to say that its that horrible just means you just downright don't even like the car.
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Star
- 11/2/2007 9:38:52 PM
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vendetta...there is not one word about the Infiniti in your post. You are embarrassing yourself for making only personal remarks that don't help your image as a Japanese car fan or Infiniti. The facts remain. I drove this car ...you didn't. My comments are based on real life, yours are just useless comments coming from a guy that has hard time to explain to himself why he still drives a 15 years old Civic . You sound like a mad dog that its cat food everyday. Not good if you ask me.
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Star
- 11/2/2007 9:39:42 PM
-3 Boost
I meant "eats"
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Star
- 11/3/2007 9:02:19 AM
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fastonekiller Your reference to a Motortrend review makes clear that your IQ is very low. My original post in this thread explained my position when it comes to car reviews done in America, and the fact that this reviews have nothing to do with reality. They are simply paid advertisements. How is your job as a tire salesman?
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STJ88
- 11/2/2007 6:42:34 PM
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@Star
Stop talking BS everbody knows that your a big hater and that you never would admit that a Japanese car is better than a german one.
And all tests have said that the 3.7 V6 is one of the best V6 engine's ever, so please stop talking crap because no one belives your fake stories.
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Star
- 11/2/2007 9:24:38 PM
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The irony here is that unlike you and other brainwashed Japanese car fans, I am the one that could actually afford a GT-R. I am going to test drive it and if is not all hype(like the G37)I might buy it. The car has no style and no heritage but it might make a good track car. At least I hope so.
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Star
- 11/3/2007 8:46:26 AM
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"Get a life, claiming """your the only""" who can afford a GT-R"
"You have no idea ""whats make""" a good track car"
You are talking about my grammar? Ha, ha, ha...You are illiterate buddy...
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enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:35:22 AM
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vendetta:
now you're making silly comparisons.
the GT-R, 335i and M3 each compete in a different class. do you have a point here?
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enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 11:52:30 AM
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you just can't accept the fact that the 335i outperforms the G in nearly every way...and that the G won for VALUE not performance.
take your own advice. get over it, move on.
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enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 11:51:29 PM
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no, vendetta, the said the G won for VALUE and that they would recommend the 335i to their friends. to quote from the article...
Overall Dynamics:
2007 BMW 335i 8.8
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 8.4
Engine Performance
2007 BMW 335i 9.8
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 8.5
Transmission Performance
2007 BMW 335i 8.5
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 8.8
Brake Performance
2007 BMW 335i 8.3
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 8.0
Steering Performance
2007 BMW 335i 8.8
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 8.0
Handling
2007 BMW 335i 8.8
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 8.4
Fun to Drive
2007 BMW 335i 8.9
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 8.6
Ride Comfort
2007 BMW 335i 8.8
2007 Infiniti G35 Sport 7.6
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123235/pageId=132209
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Star
- 11/2/2007 9:19:16 PM
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Weak comments from the Japanese car fanatics. None of you actually drove this Infiniti(no surprise considering that you are still in high-school)so I'm the only one that actually talks based on a REAL experience. Grow up kids...get your drivers licence....TEST DRIVE the car we discuss in this forums and then have an opinion that actually COUNTS.
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Star
- 11/3/2007 9:23:43 AM
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"It’s so "oblivious" Star is just some young teenager punk
"Oblivious".... Ha, ha, ha, you might want to try obvious next time if you want to make a sentence that makes sense. You are an illiterate my retarded friend. To criticise my grammar when you are incapable of writing a correct sentence in English makes you look ridiculous. Anyway, a group of intelligent people would not insult somebody for giving an opinion about a car. It shows how low quality some of the posters are here. I guess Infiniti fans are as usual...low class.
S4cabriofoxone
- 11/3/2007 1:28:15 PM
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Okay, please, we don't need to revert to name-calling.
Star
- 11/3/2007 1:29:13 PM
-2 Boost
"BMW fans are germ nazi scum of the Earth"
Riiight...because people who like the best in automotive are Nazis. You make a lot of sense. Can somebody help this clown get a grip of reality?
enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:47:52 AM
+1 Boost
"BMW fans are germ nazi scum of the Earth."
the japanese and nazis were ALLIES in WWII.
tackle that one vendetta. you're a real class act.
enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 11:54:38 AM
+1 Boost
logic is lost on you vendetta...
farabira1
- 11/2/2007 10:15:47 PM
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There is no doubt that this "Star" is just trying to demean the Infiniti G37 by citing his imaginary driving experience. I am sure that he has not driven a G37, because his descriptions don't reflect the experiences of many who have driven the car.
Mr.Star says, "The car is awfully cramped inside, feels really heavy, the engine is extremely noisy, the transmission and the clutch belong in a Ford truck , and I swear if I didn't know the number of horsepower this car has, I would 've thought it has less than two hundred based on the way the car pulls." And I suppose he is making this claims about G37 based on his experience of his adored 335i, because later on he downright claims that G37 is nothing in front of a 335i. And because he does not provide us with any other yardstick of comparison from which he is basing his deductions, and mind you people's experiences are always a reflection of comparison with another experience: for example if a hotel room seems extravagant to you then it might be because you are comparing it to your ordinary single room home, so we will have to logically assume he is comparing every experience inside the G37 to his experience in a 335i.
Well to refute his first points i point out that actually the G37 is roomier than the 335i's cabin.
BMW Infiniti
Headroom 37.1/36.1 in 37.7/34.5 in
Legroom 41.8/33.7 in 43.8/29.8 in
He calls the engine extremely noisy and that the clutch and transmission are suited for a Ford truck.
Well the VQ35DE has been a winner of Ward's 10 Best engines of world for the last 10 years alongside BMW's N52B30. And this car has a 6 speed manual transmission just like the BMWs and uses paddle shifts with down shifts to 0 for rev matching for gear. And i have checked the reviews at Motor trend and Insideline, and nowhere is there any mention of any displeasing engine noise or jerks while changing gear, or any mention of the transmission being slow to respond. So It seem's even this claims by "Star" are contradictory to experiences of many others who have already driven the car.
Then he mentions "I swear if I didn't know the number of horsepower this car has, I would 've thought it has less than two hundred based on the way the car pulls."
Well as we all know the G37 has 330 HP compared to BMWs 300 HP and the pull of the car during acceleration that he is talking about is dependent on the weight to power ratio, the lesser this number, the faster a car pulls. Well according to motor trend
following are the weight to power ratios of the two cars
BMW Infiniti
12.0 lb/hp 11.4 lb/hp
From what we have seen so far, i can not restrict myself from concluding that Mr. "Star" is an outright lier.
motor trend and insideline and other numerous magazines point out that G37 handles the corners with no fuss and feels rigid and stable with direct communication between road and steering. And all the technological innovations incorporated in this c
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farabira1
- 11/2/2007 10:23:31 PM
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And I am not claiming the G37 to be the absolute best in the world, like some Lexus fans tend to do, because it isn't and such a claim can only make me look like a fool. But having said that, i think the G37 is a very good car in it's price point and meets the requirements of prospective buyers with authority and for this this car is commendable.
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Star
- 11/3/2007 8:40:12 AM
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It is unbelievable to see that you have a such strong opinions about a car you NEVER DROVE. Tells a lot about you and how easy YOU are manipulated by the press.
Star
- 11/3/2007 1:05:37 PM
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Vendetta... Your name says everything about the way you feel toward other people...you freak. The fact that Infiniti cannot build a decent car is not such a big deal...REALLY. Your insane reactions made you look like a psychopath escaped(or not) from an institution. They should change your daily dose with something more powerful...may I suggest morphine? People like you should be kept in solitary. What kind of freak looses his mind over the fact that his favorite brand of cars is a bad car maker? Infiniti s**ks..that's about it. Learn to live with it.
enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:38:59 AM
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vendetta:
i'd suggest you actually read the edmunds comparison of the 335i and G35.
the 335i won in all the performance categories from handling to ride to acceleration to cornering, etc.
they picked the G35 because it provides the most performance FOR THE MONEY as it's $10,000 less.
so if saving $10,000 equals 'getting your ass handed to you' then ok....
Star
- 11/3/2007 9:13:38 AM
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I do know everything about cars. Unlike you little girls I owned and driven most of the hot cars on the market. Keep staring at your computer screen and think that you know everything about a car because you read about it in some s**ty review made by a paid reviewer. Brainless punks like you who didn't drive any other car in the segment and never drove a real car in their entire insignificant life are the main target buyers for cars like the G37.
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Star
- 11/3/2007 1:12:06 PM
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I am obsessed with Infiniti? Ha, ha ..not you who sounds like you are ready to die for this brand...The car is a p**ce of unadulterated c**p that should be burned as an example for the other bad car makers. Infiniti should build anything BUT cars, or just stick to their economy division...Nissan.
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enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:42:08 AM
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vendetta:
i'd suggest you actually read the edmunds comparison of the 335i and G35.
the 335i won in all the performance categories from handling to ride to acceleration to cornering, etc.
they picked the G35 because it provides the most performance FOR THE MONEY as it's $10,000 less.
separately, why are you so angry?
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CLK63BlackSeries
- 11/3/2007 12:21:03 PM
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WHO CARES!!! This car is HIDEOUS
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enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:54:45 AM
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this point is lost on many of these folks.
though the GT-R appears to be a remarkable performance car, it's in a package that looks low-rent and unsophisticated. nissan doesn't come close to understanding design the way the germans and italians do.
a little insight here boys....people buy porsches and ferraris and astons just as much (if not more) for their incredible good looks as for their performance. and most of the time they're just sitting in traffic, so looks rule.
imagine picking up your car at the valet and asking for 'the black nissan' or 'the silver porsche.' you tell me which guy the blond supermodel is going to notice.
enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:55:41 AM
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oh well, that got posted in the wrong place...
CLK63BlackSeries
- 11/5/2007 12:18:57 AM
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well since i mentioned nothing of the GT-R, i guess i should state my opinion now. these are replies to my comment after all. so, i can see both of your sides on the topic. i dont drive the best looking car for the amount of money that i paid, but it is defintely the best driving for me. so that would be leaning towards the gt-r. however, it is still a very nice looking car and i do agree that the gt-r could have been made to look a bit nicer. at the same time, though, i realize that nissan did not intend to make the best looking track car possible. they were out to make the best track car possible, and they have most likely succeeded.
enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 11:57:22 AM
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vendetta:
i'd forgotten that you are a person of such deep intellect and profound logic. please excuse me for pointing out how the modern world works.
GTR35
- 11/3/2007 2:30:26 PM
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I'm going to ignore all the negative comments about the G37 because there's no point on dealing with retards. The truth is that this car is a great performer and looks great inside and out. If that hurts anyone it's ok because that is what the truth does to Lame people.
I've driven both the G37S and the 335i, both great cars, but for the money and all the options offered the G is the smartest buy. I wouldnt buy any because I'm a sports sedan guy so I cant wait to buy the G37 sedan if it's ever made. If not I'm looking into the all new M30d.
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CLK63BlackSeries
- 11/3/2007 3:42:25 PM
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Your ignorant opinion...
Star
- 11/3/2007 4:09:03 PM
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GTR35 "I'm going to ignore all the negative comments about the G37"
This is what Infiniti targets...ignorants. I rest my case...
enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:43:22 AM
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vendetta:
have YOU ever driven a 335i?
S4cabriofoxone
- 11/5/2007 12:31:03 AM
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Of course he hasn't! How dare you try to use logic!
enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 12:02:18 PM
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vendetta:
i accused you of nothing. i asked you a question.
perhaps you should take your own advice and attempt to think before making accusations. to quote YOU, "BMW fans are germ nazi scum of the Earth."
that's quite a big accusation. please do provide your justification.
and have a wonderful day.
CLK63BlackSeries
- 11/5/2007 12:17:02 PM
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lmfao... get him enthusiastx11!
S4cabriofoxone
- 11/5/2007 8:47:26 PM
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Vendetta, please stop embarrassing yourself. In case you have not realized it, you are just as mercilessly annoying and flawed as Star.
autopro
- 11/3/2007 4:02:03 PM
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This car sells on looks and engine ,but lacks refinement.People trade them in on Lexus all the time when they get tired of the noise and lack of substance.
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Star
- 11/3/2007 4:15:03 PM
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This car has no chance to sell based on the engine. At 5000 RPM there is probably about 25% torque available. Unless you drive next to redline 100% of the time, the engine feels dead when it comes to power. I am not a fan of Lexus IS350 but the engine in that car can pull. If you drive an IS350 and a G37 back to back the Lexus feels way more powerful.
Star
- 11/5/2007 8:31:25 PM
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FACT...I drove this car ...you didn't. End of story...
S4cabriofoxone
- 11/5/2007 12:31:27 AM
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And I think Vendetta is SexyLexus or whatever.
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S4cabriofoxone
- 11/5/2007 8:47:51 PM
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Right.
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enthusiastx11
- 11/4/2007 11:33:20 AM
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infiniti has built a great car here. the G37 is a true performer. and nissan really gets it right with that V6.
however, i think the old G was actually a little better looking even though i never loved the design. i know i'll get deboosted for this, but this one just looks a bit generic and i see too much camry solara in that photo up above.
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Htay7500
- 11/4/2007 3:25:37 PM
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when its dark, the interior lights up so beautifully. good car for the money.
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CLK63BlackSeries
- 11/5/2007 12:46:15 AM
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it's funny how these comments usually say good car FOR THE MONEY. doesn't anyone think it's odd that they dont just say good car period.
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enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 12:07:04 PM
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but it's kinda true.
if money isn't a concern and you want the better performing sports coupe, you buy the 335i.
enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 12:07:38 PM
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but it's kinda true.
if money isn't a concern and you want the better performing sports coupe, you buy the 335i.
CLK63BlackSeries
- 11/5/2007 12:18:21 PM
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in a way, and only for some people. i live by go big or go home so thats where i'm coming from. the words affordable luxury are an oxymoron to me...
enthusiastx11
- 11/5/2007 1:05:44 PM
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i get it.
S4cabriofoxone
- 11/5/2007 8:49:54 PM
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Yes, I agree... if you can afford it, just get the best, no questions asked. The 335i is a superior performer and IMO it still look better (though they're close), and its extra cost is justified. It will serve you well and you will enjoy it over the entire course of ownership.
CLK63BlackSeries
- 11/5/2007 11:04:27 PM
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Precisely...
Topdown
- 11/8/2007 8:48:35 PM
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Maybe I need a testosterone injection so I can argue that I know the best car. But, I own both a Bimmer and an Infinity (after 2 Maximas), and they're BOTH GOOD but DIFFERENT. I opt for one or the other depending on my mood and drive...
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Audi Offers Race Ready R8's To The Public
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