Next-generation Dodge Viper could receive Ferrari-built V10 engine

Good idea for the Viper, but the current engine is a monster as well.

— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 1:07:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

What would a Ferrari engine add to the cost of the Viper.

— Invisible (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 1:09:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

"I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE FERRARI'S"
I don't think the viper has a budget for a Ferrari sourced engine. They use a lot of really small scale suppliers and do not have a lot of excess capacity in their manufacturing capability in house. The current vipers mill was designed by Imor engineering in England however. I can see Ferrari designing the motor but using US based suppliers, not European ones.

As for Ferrari Using a V-10 I do not think their product mix needs one from their powerful V8 in the 458 Italia to the Enzo based V-12 from the 599GTB Fiorano. A V-10 is slightly more efficient then a V-12. The parts just cost too much for Viper sourcing. What the Viper really needs is a more aerodynamic body. Their current engine is wonderful.

— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 1:12:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

A ferrari built engine in the viper is the last thing it needs. The SRT-10 engine has proved itself to be both cost effective and reliable, things which Ferrari is the epitome of. No one will buy an unreliable viper, it doesn't have the brand name prestige that allows Ferrari to tune to the max and be forgiven for the hiccups along the way.

— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 1:51:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

You people DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MODERN FERRARI ENGINE RELIABILITY or Durability. In the interest in teaching retarded people about modern Ferrari Motors I will go down to your infant level of awareness.

1 New Ferrari engines use chains to drive the cams, so there are no engine belt replacements anymore.
2 New Ferrari Engines do not need constant tune ups as they did in the past because of this.
3 New Ferrari Engines have valve timing and do not need to have valves adjusted or engine rebuilds every 30,000 miles.
4 New Ferrari Engines do not use Weber Carburetors, they use the same modern Bosch Direct Fuel Injectors as many "reliable" Japanese brands like Lexus!
5 New Ferrari Engines use Titanium valves, Titanium Valve Springs, Titanium connecting rods. All of the stronger hollow cams are forged and or billet steal. The Blocks are an aircraft grade of aluminum mixed with beryllium and silicone making them stronger and lighter than anything out there next to a formula 1 car!
6 Ferrari Engines do NOT EVER over heat anymore because of better aerodynamics channeling air into radiators with electric fans!
7 Ferrari Engines use a dry sump oil lubrication system with synthetic Shell oil factory filled, just like many Porsche's that are "reliable."
8 Ferrari Engines are made by hand and every 10th engine block IS X-RAYed for quality control then dyno tested on an engine dyno, then dyno tested again installed the car then tested on the Fiorano race track!!!!!
9 Ferrari Engines are not made like Italian cars were made in the 60's, 70's 80's or even the 90's!
10 Ferrari computers integrate the ECU with the Transmission ECU into one unit now reducing components using faster processors with less chance of any problems.

Haters you are NOW Educated...take this knowledge and use it for the good of something other then dumping on a company you know nothing about!

— pennfootball (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 4:53:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

^^^per lies. a 1200 hp supra or skyline has severe reliability problems, and lets not foorget these are done by tuners. And let's not forget all the hardware added to the engines like super huge single and twin turbo set ups and the turbo lag...Many of these cars are totally unreliable...I fthey were so reliable, then why isn't Toyota or Nissan building and selling these things. Because no car like that would last 60, 80 or even 100k.

Stop using tuner cars as references...because if you knew anything about these cars then you would about the engine rebuilds that they have to constantly go thru.

Ferrari and BMW tend to make the highest HP per liter (honorable mention to Honda)...

Now, I have always said that with this 8.4 liter V10, that if they put 4-5 valves per cyl and have DOHC, that this engine is fully capable of making 840-860 HP, easy...

— Inline6 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 7:35:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Flat-plane crank V8s sound so nice!

— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 8:16:43 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Refinements are always good but there should not be much cross breeding. These are two different vehicles and buyers. Im glad the Viper is staying but I dont want to hear " well its just a Ferrari spinoff". The Dodge division has made a very bold statement with Viper and that should not be tossed to the side.. Just to note, there are many Vipers that pump 1000HP and are very dependable. Not to difficult for a V10. For that there are tons of 426 HemiV8 with a 1000HP and there just getting started.

— bfghemicuda (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2009 11:41:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Americans love simplicity and brute horsepower, which the Viper delivers. Just like the AC Cobra did in the 60's. The Viper does not need twin overhead cams and 4-valves per cylinder. Leave it alone and continue developing the current engine. Long live the pushrod engine !
Hey bfg - isn't the Viper V-10 a derivitive of the Chrysler LA smallblock ?

— theman440 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2009 12:02:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

But what the Viper needs Ferrari's help with is it's interiors...that cheap plastic is not at home wit the Viper's outside...imagine Ferrari designing (or Pinifarina, excuse me) a badass, yet sexy and ergonomic interior with nice contrasting leather, and probably fixing theinterior heat problem

— Inline6 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2009 9:53:18 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Inline6 - I disagree the Viper does not NEED OHC, Americans have always done it "their way" lets keep the pushrods and further develop the engine. Yes I am fully aware of the variable valve timing and I never said "make it bigger" Oh and I am not "living in the 60's" I am mearly pointing out what I believe to be true about what americans really want in a balls out performance vehicle. I do agree on the interior though...

— theman440 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2009 8:03:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1