Nissan GT-R beats Porsche…again

GT-R > 911

— KZ258 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 8:58:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Of course it would retain more value than the 911, or the R8 it is a NEWER model had the R8 or 911 been released AFTER the GT-R they would have more resale value. (Because the fresher newer models are more attractive then older releases.)

— 1UAW (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 9:15:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6   

"Bmw is predicted to lose 40% of its value"

What are we talking about here? Models or Makes? The M3 will certainly not loose 40% of its value within a year. Prob not even in 3 years.

— SHOWTIME (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 9:37:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I'm a proud owner of a 997 TT and a new owner of the GT-R. I find that even though people compare the Porsche to the Nissan it's totally different in market and certainly different in price. Both are great value in my opinion that's why I made the decision to add the Nissan flagship to my collection. I don't bash either because if there are any fellow 911/GT-R owners you know there's a reason why we have both.

— 997TT (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 9:48:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Let's keep things in perspective. A Corvette has won its class at Le Mans four times since 2000 plus a bunch more class wins in the American Le Mans series. Porsche has eight class wins at Le mans since 2000 and eight more class wins in the American Le Mans series since 2000. Vipers have even won their class at Le Mans. If you want a car with a history of winning major international races, get a Corvette, Porsche, Aston Martin or even a Viper. I don't think Nissan has won a single major international race this decade.

— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 11:35:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

TurboSpyder:"If you want a car with a history of winning major international races, get a Corvette, Porsche, Aston Martin or even a Viper. I don't think Nissan has won a single major international race this decade." ---------- And I think BMW has also very little racing heritage in major international races, not only in this decade, like Nissan. So if you want a car with history of winning major international races don't get BMW and Nissan. And don't tell me about BMW's recent participation in formula 1 becouse BMW have been famous for decades from their "driving machines" without winning major international races. Nissan have done now great sport car without participating in international races(becouse they hadn't money in recent years) so they're on the same horse with BMW.

— abcd (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 5:12:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

BMW won the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1999 equaling the total number of times that any Japanese manufacturer has won the race. And since you asked, BMW took third in the F1 Constructors Championship in 2008 and second in the Championship in 2007.

— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 5:32:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

TurboSpyder: not BMW took --> BMW Sauber.

— abcd (View Profile)

Posted on 1/27/2009 1:27:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Yes, BMW-Sauber. ---- Here's some interesting information on the one remaining Japanese F1 team: "Toyota Racing is a Formula One team owned by Japanese car manufacturer Toyota and based in Cologne, Germany." --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_F1 .

— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 1/27/2009 1:06:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

One reason the GTR retain's it's value is because it is a fairly limited production vehicle that is priced so low to begin with that Nissan is probably losing money on every one it makes.It's their halo vehicle. Porsche of course makes a huge profit on all the vehicles it sells.Considering the profit Porsche makes 68% is not bad.I am certain the GTR is way underpriced especially in this dismal market. As for Le Mans wins/American Le Mans lets put this into perspective. How many cars has Nissan fielded or has Nissan had to field? Paul Newman,of course was famous for running the Z car in races back in the 70's and 80's(I'm being deliberatly vague on this because I do not remember the excact yrs he raced). I do predict the the GTR will be a successful racer,however, if the rules allow it to race(being AWD). While I like the styling and quality of a Porsche inside and out you have to give it to Nissan for what the've accomplished here. Further the 370Z runs a Cayman S very close for a whole lot less money as well. Buying a car based soley on it's racing wins is a little suspicious to me. The road going version sometimes does not live up to the racing heritage. If you read the latest issue of Road and Track the 370Z stacks up rather well against the latest Aston Martin DBS.

— mini22 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 12:47:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

The GT-R is simply amazing. Good job Nissan!!

— PerformanceGuy (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 1:16:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

1. 2008 was lower than 09 by what, $8700.
2. People paid at least $10-20k over sticker for the GT-R
3. I'll assume no discount on a 997TT but no premium either.

08 sticker price of $70k x 84% = $58k
$58k value / $80k selling price = 73%

So the GT-R is still "better", but not as exaggerated as the article implies.

— PPower (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 3:13:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Let's not forget they are talking about % of list price, when in fact no GT-R is selling at list price. When you take that into account the percentage would be lower.

— audispy (View Profile)

Posted on 1/26/2009 9:47:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Who cares; the Porsche 911 and Audi R8 are more of a car than the Nissan (boyracer) GT-R will ever be. Forget performance, but remember the materials that actually make up the car.

— Jordanski (View Profile)

Posted on 1/27/2009 1:04:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Damn...AGAIN??? Nissans Godzilla strikes again. Let's just hope Porsche steps it up a notch.

— Type707 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/27/2009 2:26:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I still wouldn't buy a GT-R. Votes: -1000 :-)

— Need4Speed (View Profile)

Posted on 1/27/2009 9:54:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1