Nissan GT-R lapped Nurburgring in 7:35 - beats SLR McLaren

What do you think of that Z06.

— STJ88 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 4:39:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I wonder if your neighborhood Nissan dealers are taking pre-orders yet. This may be a good opportunity to make some quick $$$$$. With this "hype" (or halo) surrounding the GT-R,
at least for 1-2 years, there will be a waiting list.

BTW, I am sure this news also have Honda NSX folks really disturbed. What are they going to do? If they want to sell a $100K NSX, it has better be capabe of beating GT-R.... How about LF-A from Lexus?

— ceric (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 4:40:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I wonder if this will single handedly elevate the must have factor of any Nissan over Toyotas. Which (in addition to bad Consumer Reports press) will finally knock Toyota down a few notches.

— montyz81 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 4:54:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I love the GT-R but hate the SLR, so this comes as no surprise to me. I don't see how they could've executed the SLR McLaren any worse... they made it far too expensive, it doesn't handle well, it's big and heavy, it's not fast enough and the SL65 demolishes it for half the price.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 5:18:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

A few months back there were times of 7:32 showing up for the Nissan. Now like then, I find it very difficult to believe that a 473hp, est.3400lbs car could come within 2 secs. of a 2900lbs 600 plus hp Zonda F that cost 500k. If they really are going to offer more than one level of the GT R, maybe this posted time is of the higher HP offering. I really hait to sound like a "doubting Thomas" because I really like this car.

— golfer38 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 5:50:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 6   

You guys got it all wrong. The GT-R beat the SLR, but not the SLR 722. So that's an unfair comparsion.

The SLR competes with the Caddy XLR and G37/350Z.
The SLR 722 competes with the XLR V-series, Viper and GT-R.

And Paris Hilton said the SLR is the "fastest" car she ever driven, not the GT-R. That's why she said that she kept on getting pulled over for speeding.

— lenkun (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:04:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5   

When is this GT-R actually coming out...

— Type707 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:19:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

We all know that when the LF-A headlines start popping up about it beating the SLR on the 'Ring, the vitriol and hate in the comments will be far greater.

I know if I were purely interested in performance, I'd park a Z06 and a GT-R in my driveway before an SLR anyway.

— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:43:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I hate to be the "wet blanket" here, but no matter how fast/quick a car is--it should be at least good looking, if not gorgeous. For me the GT-R is difficult to look at, I think it is one of the worst styling jobs in recent memory. I guess the Aztec looks worse, but I can't think of another modern car, let alone a GT, sports car or super car, that looks as bad as the GT-R.
Kudo's to Nissan for building, and for many years, a giant slayer--and this latest iteration is stupendous from all accounts--but couldn't they have made it good looking too?
BW

— BobW (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:48:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Wow...!if the lap for this Nissan GT-R is at 7:35 than this GT-R is definitely a beast.

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:59:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Now just imagine what the top model Nissan GT-R with can do with 550hp?

I wonder the engine sound like? great job Nissan.

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 7:02:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I am very dissapointed in the styling as well, nothing close to as pretty as the show car. And who keeps posting things as fact when its just speculation?

— germeezy2 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 8:12:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

The GT-R is fugly.

It makes me sick and I know you're all upset as well.

:(

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 8:35:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

I love these comparisons! Cause they are absolutely pointless. These lap time are nothing but PR hype.

Put Schumacher in my dodge and I guarantee He can lap Nordschleife faster that I am driving a 599. My point is unless the lap times are done with the same driver under the same conditions. People can claim whatever they want.

By the way, I am by no means saying the R35 is slow, I am simply stating those reports are pointless. They are pretty much created exclusively for fanboys to rave on their fanboy sites.

— RustHurricane (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 8:47:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I EL34, do not believe this Nissan GT-R is that fast.

Prove it!

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 10:04:23 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

The GTR is all about 'Form following Function'. That in itself is the greatest beauty. The rest is subjective. The GTR doesn't aim to be superficially pretty just to satisfy a few individual and shallow tastes (the EL34's of the world). It is what it is, makes no apologies about anything and will GUN all others down for sheer ability, when push comes to shove.
I am a visual effects artist, I design motion picture VFX environments for a living and every line in the GTR speaks to me- of clarity, simplicity and function dictating design. To those of you who look to find beauty in puerile comparisons with supercar forms, and then condemn the GTR as ugly, I don't have much to say. Beauty is innate- and its one reason why the GTR won't age overnight the way the 996 Porsche did.

— Lyall (View Profile)

Posted on 10/17/2007 11:26:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

7:35?????? That's insane! A Carrera GT did 7:28, the 997 Turbo does 7:40 and the GT2 in 7:32.

My god.. this is just like the old days... GT-R came and killed everybody on the Ring. Back in the day it was the first car to go under 8:00


Oh boy I am really starting to like that car.

Too bad there is no manual transmission.

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 2:30:12 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

I'll just wait till it gets tested by Sport Auto, then you can see what it really can do.

ANd then it'll be real proof, not just some stupid claims thrown around.

— Heyhuub (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 4:22:55 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Hmm, even if it is quicker. SLR will always be more attractive, expensive and rare. No matter how quick the Nissan is, it can't achieve those things. And i'd also like to see the track time for an SLR 722, and see how that fairs.

— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 5:34:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

People here are so gullable...

— richardp996 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 9:44:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

"Even Sevor can admit to a good piece of engineering when he sees one, can you be a bigger person?"

I don't recall saying it wasn;t a good piece of engineering, it is quite impressive.

— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 11:59:41 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

THE BEAST FROM THE EAST WILL SOON REIN ON US AND WHEN IT DOES IT WILL BE IN NO DOUBT THE KING OF CARS. HAIL TO THE MIGHTY MIGHTY GTR.

— shiftless (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 1:26:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

"I don't recall saying it wasn;t a good piece of engineering, it is quite impressive."

Some Japanese lovers still deboost u for stating it's a pretty good car, seems there's no winning with some chumps.

— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 2:13:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

MidEngine, nice finding. Shame people believe hear say when they want to.

— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 10/18/2007 3:42:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

It's not difficult to look up the reported Nordschleife lap times rather than relying on hearsay:

7:38 - Nissan GT-R, 473PS/1739kg, Toshio Suezaki, (Edmunds insideline, Oct 2007)
7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, 626PS/1768kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild, July 2004)

So we have 2 different drivers, on two different days, with different tires, and most likely different traffic on the circuit, putting in two impressive times. The SLR is three years older, has oodles more luxury equipment, is rwd, and costs much more. The GT-R is entirely new, has relatively less luxury equipment, is AWD, and costs a lot less. Luxury 2wd versus cutting-edge awd.

...and you argumentative brats are slinging mud at each other over two bloody seconds? Two seconds is NOTHING on the Nordscleife. We're contrasting $100 chianti and $30 amber ale here, folks -- both do the trick. Please quit your stupid fanboy talk, there is more than one way to achieve an impressive result.

I'll take the SLR on saturday and the GT-R sunday. You can have the alternate car on the alternate day.

— moto (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 3:25:32 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

But this whole time is based on "reliable sources", would like to know these exact sources. Secondly, OFFICIAL figures from chief engineer will be more reliable. Anyway, we'll wait and see.

— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 4:49:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

SLR is an SLR, and a GT-R is a Nissan, take it for what its worth.

I mean, why don't these people argue that a 30k Evo will sprint 0-60 faster than a Maybach 57s? They are both Sedans, "sporty".

Its just irrelevant what the GT-R does in comparison to the SLR. PERIOD!!!

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 9:37:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

"The shifting is done via a direct, twin-clutch system. One clutch handles the odd gears and another clutch handles the even ones. Shifts take 0.2 seconds. There are BorgWarner triple-cone synchronizers for all gears. Another shaft runs forward from that transaxle to send power to the front wheels. Below 25 mph the torque split is 50/50, above that, under normal driving, the split is 40/60. But it can split up to 2/98 under hard acceleration, which was what we were giving it."

Not sure about this... 0,2 seconds to shift? That's about 200ms which is SLOW for a DSG gearbox. Porsche's Tiptronic shifts in about 200ms-400ms (and Porsche is working on a 7-speed DSG for a long time now...), the new gen ZF gearboxes does it in under 100ms. Ferrari is currently at 60ms, BMW at 80Ms, VAG is by far the quickest: 6 ms for the dry clutch 7-speed DSG and about 8 ms for the Veyron. But nobody will notice the difference...

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 10/19/2007 5:32:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I'll be frank, i am always a fan of the underdog, and nissan gtr is the underdog that producers of gt2s, srl mclarens, and gallardos, and all other well established sports car companies probably did not take seriously. It fills my heart to see the underdog rising up to the challenge and giving the big boys a scare run for the performance figures. Should be an awesome car.

— farabira1 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/20/2007 5:11:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1