Obama Adminstration Deals a Crippling Blow By Lowering Emissions And Increasing Mileage Standards

I don't want a hybrid... or a diesel... or a hybrid diesel... I guess my next vehicle will be a "classic" car with a 350 v8.

— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 4:45:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Too bad most americans are too fat to ride a motorcycle. Easily getting over 40mpg with the spirited riding I do.

— veyron1001 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 5:17:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Sounds good but will be interesting to see if Obama stands by his word or continues going back on more promises.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 5:44:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

I am reminded of something Harold Korell, the CEO of Southwestern Energy, the company which has been the top performer in the S&P 500 for eight years running-better even than Apple, said at a fund raiser I attended a couple of weeks ago.

Political laws do not nullify or trump economic or physical laws.

You cannot shorten the critical technological path by mandate without inducing massive system losses. Further, there is a toll in terms of the end product utility. You arrive at an inferior product and a higher cost.

— cdoke (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 6:33:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Well duhhh. The automakers are already broke, so you slap not only one very expensive measure on them to complete quickly but now two... and don't forget the new rollover requirements,

Obama has yet to be proven so I will stay mum on that one. Maybe he has a master plan to take over Canada and Mexico....shhhh!

— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 8:12:23 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Maybe 009 likes Obama, and dislikes pollution, emissions, and OPEC. It seems that is what President Obama has dealt a "crippling blow" to.

— FerrarisR4me (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 8:27:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Now thats more like the Black Socialist I voted for!!!!! Yeah!!!!!

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 8:47:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

I don't want to drive a car the size of a Yaris.

— crslmn (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 9:54:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

crslmn, B-Segment cars are getting bigger.

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 10:34:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Crippling Blow, ummm, u did hear that the Auto Alliance agreed to this right? Gee maybe now our fuel economy will approach that of say... China?

— thetruth01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 10:46:37 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

If we get forced into econo cans They will only be able to seat two people if they are of size ( political correctness ) . The driver will have it's normal postion , except the seat will be all the way back , hence eliminating anyone directly in back . The passenger will have to sit diagonly to the driver in the back seat because there will be no room on the passenger side of car due to the drivers gerth spilling over to the right . Nope , new fuel mileage ideas no good . it will put too many cars on the road

— toolatetorace (View Profile)

Posted on 5/18/2009 11:52:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

thetruth01, If America cant make the 45 MPG that China CAFE standards is set to. America is Phucked!!!!!

— HyundaiSmoke (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 12:08:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The blow is to our domestic car makers that will struggle to meet the new requirements on top of all the problems. I think Obama means well, but it's just not a good time for the car companies. Also, USA is not Europe or Asia and never will be, so I wish all the other countries who say we have big cars, houses or asses would just mind their business, seeing how we keep this whole planet spinning. Just because your lives suck, don't be dragging us down.

— g2ok (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 12:18:51 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

And how does this help American workers when the American companies don't have any of these kind of cars that are world beaters against the competition.

Makes it even harder for them to comeback.

001

— Agent001 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 1:23:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Takes years to do it and tons of money...American car companies don't have the time or the money.

001

— Agent001 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 1:28:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/green_machines/pml_flightlink_electric_mini_cooper_car_news This car has 640 BHP and is already better on gas than the new standard, for the people like you and I that like HP there is no need to worry too much. My biggest concern is that none of the companies have smart enough people to match PML's economy and power.This tech could be put into a Hummer H-1 and probably get similar economy as the prius,check out the link above before you make an informed opinion.

— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 6:05:32 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

SWEET!!! After 3 decades of dragging our feet, finally, real progress!

I love Obama

— DinamoR (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 7:49:12 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Makes me wish I didn't vote for him. Why can't you wacky liberal environmentalists just leave the cars alone??? This miserable planet is doomed anyway, so why make our time here less enjoyable with stupid rules?

— pushrod27 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 8:22:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Higher mileage standards means smaller cars. This will further accelerate the decline of the American automotive industry since The Big Three have never profited from making small cars (their profit has come from SUV's and trucks). My prediction is that Americans will drive their older, bigger cars longer rather than being forced to drive econoboxes.

— HSCenterconsole (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 8:30:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

The Germans will suffer from this as well. Their "fuel efficient" vehicles still have a hard time getting past 30mpg, save the tdi jetta.

— Joe_Limon (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 8:58:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Just remember...he doesn't want to run the auto industry.

— StarSearch (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 9:16:33 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

It looks like sports cars as we know them are about to go extinct. Time to get that Camaro SS.

— PlanB (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 9:40:10 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Enjoy the V8s V10s and V12s while they last!

— SHOWTIME (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 9:45:59 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Just a little tangent here...

If America completely outlawed fossil fuel burning vehicles and we all walked or rode bicycles, China and Inda alone will be burning more oil than we could ever dream of in the next 20 years.

Why would we choose to hamper our industry and consumer choices if the "goal" is moot due to lack of global consensus? This is exacgtly why we didn't (and shouldn't have) sign the Kyoto Protocol.

Also, would it be easier and more cost effective to ban any vehicle that gets less than 20mpg now? We'd probably get 75% of the way ther in one year. That would be much more effective...

— 09CTSVforMe (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2009 10:23:41 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

@ jpnuss

Wheeee...The Depression is OVER..SO SAYTH jpnuss...At close on 05/21/09 GM stock is up 32.47% over the previous closing price...TO $1.92

But Ford is down 1.48% BooHoo Hoo so maybe everthing ISN'T Sunshine and Lollypops in Obamaland

Remember the saying.."As goes General Motors..so goes America"

Well, America is now a FREEKIN PENNY STOCK...so low it could be "de-listed" from the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

— TheDepressingTruth (View Profile)

Posted on 5/22/2009 1:18:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

".. 42 mpg(average) by 2016 for cars and at least 26.6 mpg(average) for light trucks"
Oh..and while you're at it...MAKE CANDY BARS FLY OUT OF THE TAIL PIPE!

Buy a truck NOW...Bubba,that is if you ever want to haul that Bass Boat to the lake (not that they arn't coming after the boat next...Recreational Boating is such a waste of energy and NOT APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR FOR SERFS

— TheDepressingTruth (View Profile)

Posted on 5/22/2009 12:06:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

http://www.hipadrive.com/sema.html
For all you morons that can't read this link is a hybrid F-150 that gets 100.MPG with 640BHP! These are facts and have been done, this company has been at this for a while, mostly with the military. You can have your cake and eat it too! Read the link before you deboost me!

— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 5/22/2009 5:37:44 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I give up on all of you morons that can't read! Some of you morons are too lazy to read or just choose to be blind.Why do we have so many idiots on this site! Luckily there are some intelligent people here too, The web master should kick out the morons!

— truckman (View Profile)

Posted on 5/24/2009 4:55:28 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1