Peugeot 308 Hatch: Diesel Plus Hybrid Equals 70+mpg

Sounds promising.

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 8:24:53 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Finally! Now this is what i've been waiting for!

though what's this going to do in the diesel v. hybrid flame war... could this be the marriage that unites the waring clans? :-)

— jeffy210 (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 9:40:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Rice,

I was going to dismiss you at first, but then I got to thinking. It seems to me that most of the diesel proponents (myself included) would be very much accepting of a hybrid tacked on to it. Yet it seems that hybrid people are "gas good, diesel bad".

I am for it for a few reasons:
1. It increases gas mileage in to ranges that we should be at
2. It decreases our dependence on oil
3. It combines the power from a diesel with the efficiency of a hybrid
4. Until a true alternative is found, this provides the best way of prolonging current use of fuel and technology

So besides for your "clean smelling world", which incidentally is false given that new diesels are matching gas CO2 emissions, and particulate filters have almost completely eliminated the diesel smell, what is your reasoning against a diesel hybrid?

— jeffy210 (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 11:49:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

So Europe smells?
How mature of you.

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 12:00:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Jeff,

Just ignore him, he just got his drivers license and works part time cleaning cars for his local Honda store.

— Neverfollow (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 11:53:49 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Ricemaster, you must have missed the article about Honda introducing a hybrid to Japan. Geeee, I wonder why Honda would spend money to develop a hybrid if it was no good?

Get a clue.

— quizz (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 12:02:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

And the doors must be shut :)

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 2:35:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

This is the right way to reduce emission. Not a gimmicky hybrid car that's packed with loads of heavy batteries.

— Anti_Bangle (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 12:35:51 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The problem with Hybrids is that they get horrible gas mileage on the highway.
One of the reasons why they don't sell so well in Europe. Coupling it to a Diesel makes the best sense.
This will pretty much hurt Toyota's Hybrid. They better put it with a Diesel quick, because it's not 40 mpg that you get, but you will get closer to 65 or so!
Europeans for the most part take their cars to go on vacation, and one of the reasons Diesel sell so well is that they are now, quiet, fast, powerful, and excellent MPG...on the highway that is all that you need.

— AlexTx (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 12:46:55 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

thats always been in my opinion, the way to go, especially considdering they make such clean diesels now. except comparing the mileage of a diesel to a regular petrol car, i think it could get far more than 70 mpg combined w/ a hybrid system like toyota's.

— jjernstrom (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 1:46:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

sailor ur headed to singapore? good luck, im headed there on aug.

— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 6/14/2007 8:52:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Well folks let me add my two cents here. Just for the record, the most unreliable diesels to hit the US market were neither Japanese or European, but were in fact American. The 5.7L Oldsmobile diesels were the biggest culprits. They were based on the gasoline engiens and did not have strogn enough cylinder ehad bolts to withstand the higher compression ratio of the disel configuration. The problem was eventually rectified but the damage was done. Another nail in the US diesel coffin was the oil embargo was over and gas was once again abundant and cheap. Back in the late 70s and early 80s lots of manufacturers were selling diesels in the US. Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, Peugeot, Nissan, Mazda, Toyota, Isuzu, Ford, and GM all had various offerings. But I digress. I am not keen on ANY kind of hybrid because at present the manufacturers are shying away from mentioning the stratospheric cost of replacing those batteries when (not if) they go bad. When people start shelling out really large sums of cash to replace them the hype will die a (rightful) sudden death. This will be a killer when time comes for re-sale. I say the way of the future is the diesel engine all on its own. The fuel structure itself will have to change as well as internal engine components, but the compression ignition idea is here to stay.

— tango (View Profile)

Posted on 6/13/2007 7:47:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Ricemaster:
You have absolutely no idea what your talking about..sounds like your never been outside your local town, and just see the world through the internet :)

— alfistiDK (View Profile)

Posted on 6/14/2007 11:15:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Who will be the first to bring the pinnacle of autmotive technology to the U.S.?

FORD GET OFF YOU A$$ and put this in a redsigned Ranger and F-150 and make it B100/WVO capable.

Ron Paul in 2008.

— wbradd3797 (View Profile)

Posted on 6/15/2007 11:54:25 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1