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Political Two Step: Obama Talks of Hybrids, But Drives A Hemi
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Political Two Step: Obama Talks of Hybrids, But Drives A Hemi
Sen. Barack Obama talks a good game. He also drives a good car, but the two are not entirely compatible.
The Democratic presidential contender was in Detroit on Monday, oozing charisma and environmental awareness as he chided local automakers for building too many big vehicles and not enough fuel-efficient hybrids.
So his choice to drive a V8 Hemi-powered Chrysler 300C emits a whiff of hypocrisy along with its exhaust fumes. Obama's choice proves once again that fuel economy is seldom the No. 1 factor when Americans buy cars.
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LexusNumberOne4ever
- 5/11/2007 9:53:52 AM
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All these politicians who talk green and campaign for earth, drive Suburbans and Excursions.
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IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:11:00 PM
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or they drive hybrids and destroy the enviroment with the dirty batteries. The cars are designed to last several years less then the TDI or petrol compitation
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:13:06 PM
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he can buy gas credits and make himself feel better. Can you even think about how much energy Hillary's group must use every day?
ExigeOwner
- 5/11/2007 11:21:48 AM
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If he bought a Prius then everyone would moan that he doesn't support the US economy.
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r_driver04
- 5/11/2007 11:59:48 AM
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Excellent point.
daytonaviolet
- 5/11/2007 3:08:00 PM
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He doesn't have to buy a Prius, he could buy a more fuel efficient Chrysler.
A V8 sedan isn't even close to being eco-friendly.
spnst3
- 5/12/2007 3:09:57 AM
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Really? American car companies don't manufacture fuel-efficient vehicles??
Alec
- 5/11/2007 11:23:39 AM
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Way to go Obama, buy us into your fuel efficiency plans and contradict it by driving a V8.
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powerbutton
- 5/11/2007 11:24:37 AM
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Typical that suburban "nouveau rednecks" would harp on Obama's supposed hypocricy and ignore the brazen, deliberate, and in too many cases, criminal hypocricy of the current administration. Talking about hybrids and driving a 300 is one thing; talking about protecting the environment whlie you are eliminating emissions standards and enforcement and lining the pockets of your energy industry cronies is a whole order of magnitude more hypocritical. Kind of like the guy promoting abstinence at USAID seeing hookers on the side (but in this case the environment is the hooker).
Get a clue folks: over the next couple of years, as the onion gets peeled back on more and more criminal activity, you are about to look a whole lot more stupid and corrupt than Joseph McCarthy and Herbert Hoover supporters -- combined.
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spnst3
- 5/12/2007 3:10:48 AM
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you are a complete moron.
spnst3
- 5/12/2007 3:12:22 AM
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just to clarify, my moron comment was directed at "powerbutton"
S4cabriofoxone
- 5/13/2007 1:18:23 PM
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"You can claim 'bush lied'... when most other politicans voted with him..."
And yet, his approval rating continues to plummet...
r_driver04
- 5/14/2007 1:54:03 PM
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Opfreak....We got good men and women dying everyday. Why? The price of gas is still going up. We went over there for one thing, to secure the oil reserves that Daddy Bush missed.
How does your approval rating continue to drop like a rock. It's because you lied to your own people about it. Clinton's approval didn't drop as consistently as Bush's has. I'm not saying politicians are all criminals but it's a close race.
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:15:42 PM
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power- the stupid masses that commies need have your support. The only problem with the envorment is Republicans? Get over yourself. I am letting our methane right now while I think of you. Nice I was feeling a little cold and that helped
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:16:26 PM
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out
w209w114
- 5/11/2007 11:30:46 AM
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Autospies Agents:
Why do some comments get deleted? Is there censureship on autospies?
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Agent009
- 5/11/2007 12:09:04 PM
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When the comments are in bad taste, we will edit them out. I deleted several that not criticizing the man or his view, but were negative towards his ethnic background. These are unacceptable by any stroke of the imagination.
LexusNumberOne4ever
- 5/11/2007 12:11:59 PM
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There is, I suppose. Some of the comments here were racist.
Agent009
- 5/11/2007 1:12:21 PM
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If we see it we delete it, but there are over 1000 comments every day, so a few could get by on occaision.
spnst3
- 5/12/2007 3:13:40 AM
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yes, a lot of my very neutral, unharmful comments have been deleted. the moderators here are fascists.
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:18:11 PM
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s4 it is rated at 32
r_driver04
- 5/11/2007 12:01:13 PM
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$5 bucks says nobody on this thread drives a car that gets 30MPG or better. Prove otherwise...please.
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Agent009
- 5/11/2007 12:10:31 PM
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Close but no cigar here, my daily driver averages 28.8 mpg in mixed driving.
LexusNumberOne4ever
- 5/11/2007 12:13:41 PM
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My Honda CRX! Yeah...I'm a loser.
Caddyman07
- 5/11/2007 12:18:53 PM
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5 bucks says nobody gets 30MPG or better!!! LOL!!! That was funny!!!...........Umm,... (clears throat)... I drive a thirsty ass 300C also :( ...
TheSailor
- 5/11/2007 1:55:19 PM
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My Leon Cupra does 30 MPG as long as you don't push it too hard according to the trip computer... I guess just won a fiver then :D
mp2dtw
- 5/12/2007 2:33:13 AM
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Saab 9-3 2.0T/manual gearbox. Typically 28-32 mpg with 20 mile urban (Detroit) commute unless it's really cold, then down to 24-25. Up to 36-37 mpg on trips. I figure every tank and assure you that my grasp of simple arithmetic is rock solid.
Rupert
- 5/12/2007 5:36:33 PM
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I win!
I get 35 UK (bout 30 US) round town :)
I have a 1.4 VW Lupo...small but clever. But still small.
Rupert
- 5/12/2007 5:37:49 PM
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And when I say town I mean London gridlock. SLOW.
Rupert
- 5/12/2007 6:38:38 PM
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Oh and on my moped i get 100 mpg all the time.
S4cabriofoxone
- 5/13/2007 1:20:14 PM
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The A3 gets 29 on the highway... close enough, right?
jasongoudie
- 5/11/2007 12:11:15 PM
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Absolutely their is censorship on autospies. My stories never get posted and comments are deleted. The administrators have an agenda!!! Control the message and the outcome will be what you want right.....
I was just quoting what others in the media had up there but Obama must be 001 and 009 favorite candidate!!
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Agent009
- 5/11/2007 1:13:19 PM
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favorite canidate? LOL far from it...
jasongoudie
- 5/11/2007 12:12:38 PM
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The LA times are the ones that called him that name 009. It had nothing to do with his ethnic background!!!!!!! It just goes to show you are an ignorant liberal just like the rest of them!!!
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Agent009
- 5/11/2007 1:14:23 PM
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confirmed conservative bubba, get your facts straight...
spnst3
- 5/12/2007 3:15:04 AM
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agreed.
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:19:37 PM
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are you talking about the magic negro article in the LA times?
jasongoudie
- 5/11/2007 12:14:46 PM
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Wow McCarthy and Hoover... Right out of the liberal talking points bible... Come up with some facts for you onion their. Prove it!!!!
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TheSailor
- 5/11/2007 2:13:08 PM
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AND SO WHAT?! So he like cars with big engines... Thats no crime! It's politics, he has to be positive towards hybrids because they are percieved as being green, regardless of the fact that only the Prius is truly green!
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mp2dtw
- 5/12/2007 2:23:57 AM
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Opfreak, That's plain stupid. Most I know on the left--and since I am on the left, I know quite a few--drive relatively fuel-efficient cars, use fluorescent bulbs instead of incandescent, recycle everything they can and do try to improve things. So save your cynicism for those deserving of it, rather than using an anecdote to try to prove a generality.
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:20:40 PM
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well in socialist circles it is not what you do it is how you feel. You don't have to change you have to force others to change
cdoke
- 5/11/2007 3:43:17 PM
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I will just say up front that I am not a liberal. I am more of a Goldwater conservative. What other people do on their property in their homes in none of my business and it most certainly isn’t the governments business. That is not even politics: that is simple manners, but for some reason both parties and the people who support them seem to think the concept of democracy gives them the right to dispense with etiquette- despite the fact that the United States has never been a democracy despite what politicians treasonously try to insinuate. Be glad it has never been.
Anyway, I was relatively ambivalent about Obama until recently when we gave a speech and state that 10,000 people died in the recent storms in Kansas. 10 people died not 10,000- three orders of magnitude off. That is a very large mistake. I don’t know if he has trying to sensationalize it or simply does not read the news, but either case I find unacceptable.
As far as his car: he's a politician what do you expect. My experience with politicans is that they,in particular career politicians, are smarmy slimy little bastards with absolutely no manners. I hate sychophants.
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LexusNumberOne4ever
- 5/12/2007 12:16:26 AM
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Well said cdoke. Bravo!
mp2dtw
- 5/12/2007 1:38:31 AM
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This proud liberal normally gets over 30 mpg and could do better too. We all could improve. What I don't understand is the halo so many Americans have put over Obama's head. If he get the nomination, of course I'll vote for him. He isn't any worse than anyone else running, but he certainly isn't all that great.
That doesn't mean we can get on the 'all politicians are hypocrites' bandwagon. The minute you start expecting as little of your politicians as you expect of yourself or your co-workers & neighbors is the minute you'll start understanding democracy. They're only people too.
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IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:27:10 PM
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the western world is not destroying the enviroment they are the ones cleaning it up. Have you been to China? I have and there are 2 billion people that don't give a crap about your CAFE standards or what you put in the sink. The modern enviromental movement is leaded by western hatting commies and the stupid masses are the rest of us for buying this crap.
If there is global warming they blame it on the sun or volcanos. There was an ice age 1000's of years before man and there was warming before and after that.
If you car about the enviroment then puck up that trash, don't dump in the lake, don't trow out the pepsi can, and fart every other day.
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:27:43 PM
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care
IamEvilHomer
- 5/14/2007 2:31:36 PM
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how do they lower gas prices? "I command you to drop your prices" "I order you to not make any money"
Lower prices will come with greater supply and lower demand. Encourage refinaries and exploration, talk about alternitives like TDI, Bio-desiel, and reduce taxes on developers.
The easyest way to drop gas prices is to have a week economy. Give me $4.00 before a week economy.
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r_driver04
- 5/14/2007 1:49:33 PM
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We need to drive fuel efficient cars because it saves us from taking it as HARD as they're trying to give it to us.
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huu76
- 5/14/2007 10:13:37 PM
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He's a Democrat, their strategy is tell ppl what they want to hear and worry about using the media to blame the Republicans later. If someone complains, say it's some redneck Texan that's the problem, or some BS race thing.
He's gonna need more than "I wanna be the first black President" as a platform. I have yet to hear anything that would make anyone want to vote for him.
He's such a hypocrite, he might as well drive a diesel while telling how we need to handover Iraq to China and the terrorists.
Knowing Bubba Clinton, he probably would've apologized to Al Qaeda for the US building the WTC too high.
To the know-nothing European cheap-ars diesel lovers, the TDI Jetta consumed 2x more oil than the Prius according to the EPA. Want me to prove it?
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huu76
- 5/14/2007 10:26:28 PM
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I'll do it anyway. Must've revised it already, it used to be 5.9 barrels. Oh well, still kills the diesel in mileage.
Prius 6.2 barrels
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm
Jetta TDI 10.3 barrels
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm
Obama could be worse though, he could drive a German car and complain about how we shouldn't buy Japanese inorder to support foreign made American/German cars.
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993Turbo
- 5/18/2007 9:20:21 AM
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Typical democrat.
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