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Renault developing a 3000$ car!!!
Because of great success of Logan Renault is planing a new ULTRA-CHEAP car wich will cost only 3000$! Read Article
Renault developing a 3000$ car!!!



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chuck717chuck717 - 6/15/2007 4:10:56 PM
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That means no dealers in Seattle or Portland?

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Anti_BangleAnti_Bangle - 6/15/2007 4:58:14 PM
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and they'll be available at your local Walmart with a fixed price tag. Don't even need to bargain with a dealer, just show your credit card to the cashier on your way out, sign a few lease/finance documents, she'll give you the keys, and you're on your way home with your brand new $3000 ride (reliability sold separately).

But seriously, wouldn't this be a great way to buy a vehicle instead of being ripped off by car dealers?

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RupertRupert - 6/15/2007 5:53:49 PMView My AgentSpace
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On a vaguely related note, in England in my local supermarket Tesco (worlds 4th largest retailer btw) they were selling Chinese scooters off the rack. Roughly 1200 dollars, which is a complete bargain.

I have a Chinese scooter (same make as the one sold in Tesco), which I bought off Ebay new for 800 dollars, and nothing has fallen off yet.


trd1trd1 - 6/15/2007 6:04:20 PM
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what does come with a 1 month 1 thousand mile warranty.

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rg12345rg12345 - 6/15/2007 9:34:53 PM
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It's called Dacia, they already sell it in Romania (produced) and the countries around there .. cheap car for people who need the basic transportation with an decent AC system but can not afford a 10000$ or more. Right now it's about 7000 Euros for a new Logan, they probably wanna do something more basic. Hard to do .. but if they build it in India/China they can do it, people work there for a pound of rice per month.

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jt716jt716 - 6/15/2007 10:10:17 PMView My AgentSpace
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CHEAP UNRELIABLE it will fall apart like th rest of their cars

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huu76huu76 - 6/16/2007 2:50:55 AM
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Rupert,
That's because it's just a xerox of someone else's scooter design. I despise anyone who knowingly buys Chinese to save a few cents. How does Europe feel now that China is about to surpass Galileo w/ their own GPS system to target their nukes on you guys? Still hate missile defense?

Renault will sell for $3K, China will copy, then sell for $0.25 or 3 for a dollar :P Some ppl will be dumb enough to buy 3.

I can see the marketing though, "Absolutely no Europeans were employed in the manufacture of this product". But anyway, $3,000 is a lot in any emerging market. It's not like they'll be selling it to industrialized countries.

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dav256dav256 - 6/16/2007 6:40:19 AM
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Still hate missile defense?

We just don´t want to provoke a new Cold War.
Most of the Europeans are against missile defense, You have to accept that.
But You´re right China is copying everything, they don´t care about patents.That´s only one reason, why I wouldn´t buy stuff from China to save money.


RupertRupert - 6/16/2007 3:44:18 PMView My AgentSpace
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Save a few cents?
I saved over 2000 dollars on mine.

Are you telling me you buy nothing Chinese at all?


dav256dav256 - 6/16/2007 7:08:39 PM
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Of course it´s impossible to buy nothing made in China, but I prefer stuff made in Europe,Japan,USA...




EnnNorakEnnNorak - 6/16/2007 9:46:20 AM
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I do not believe that it is possible to manufacture a $3,000 car in any country today. Perhaps a zero is missing and it's really a $30K car in the Saturn Aura price range. If the author really had $3000 in mind, then the cost of capital equipment in manufacturing was excluded in the number-crunching exercise and the projected sales were grossly exagerated.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/17/2007 5:28:52 PMView My AgentSpace
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You're naive.


EnnNorakEnnNorak - 6/21/2007 6:56:06 PM
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S4cabriofoxone, how long do you think a country like India or China can maintain unbelievably low labor rates. Even China will eventually have to raise the value of its currency due to rising exports and the need to import evermore expensive raw materials. If you base your $3,000 price (and we don't even know if that is manufacturer's "cost", or wholesale, or full retail) on projected sales 20 years out and the exchange rate on currency varies by a factor of 2, or 3, or even 10 during the 20 years, what do you think will happen to the initial $3,000 price. I think that the $3,000 price is based on a very optimistic business plan, perhaps to entice investors in India. Either that or they plan to build a vehicle based on something close to a cheap lawn mower engine and single speed tranny.


richardp996richardp996 - 6/17/2007 1:25:30 AM
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With a $3000 car I would start participating in production touring car and rally events. Talk about cheap-man's potential racecar.

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DieselRulesDieselRules - 6/17/2007 2:40:26 AM
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Renault used to rule Rally racing.
My father sold Renault cars in a small town in Northern Ontario 35 years ago.
I remember a poster on the wall: It had a picture of the Renault Alpine, and results of the 1973 Monte Carlo Rally.
Renault took 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, and 10th place!
The Alpine had a tiny V6 in the rear, with a redline of 11,000 RPM.
Think about that ... 11,000 RPM in 1973.
Motorcycles didn't rev that high back then!

I drove the crap out of a Renault 12 sedan.
You couldn't kill it.
Logging roads; powerlines; pipelines; off-road (sometimes on purpose, sometimes not); and i once drove 13 people to a high-school dance (counting myself, only a few blocks, 3 in the passenger seat, 4 in the back with 5 sitting on their laps)

They WERE bullet-proof cars ... 1/3 of a century ago...

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DieselRulesDieselRules - 6/17/2007 2:47:41 AM
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NOTE:
1973 was the first year of the WRC, which Renault won with the Alpine.

CORRECTION:
memory may be mixed up on V6 ... Alpines seem to use R8 Gordini engines or R16 engines.

More info here:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/renault/renault-alpine-a110-ar27769.html



EnnNorakEnnNorak - 6/21/2007 7:00:54 PM
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I once had a Renault Dauphine in Canada that I paid $1,600 for brand new. The car had a top speed of just over 70 mph and I almost got a ticket from a crooked cop on the Laurentian Autoroute for doing 75 mph. He had to let me go because I advised him that the car is incapable of exceeding 70 mph. I think he was looking for a bribe.


DieselRulesDieselRules - 6/17/2007 2:51:33 AM
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$3000 EUROs is around US$6000-

The Chinese will be selling cars in the US for about $8000-.
This Renault, designed and built in India for India, will be stripped-down in comparison, so $6000 isn't unreasonable in comparison.

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huu76huu76 - 6/17/2007 1:41:28 PM
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This should've posted yesterday, but autospies has been giving me grief lately.

Liberals/Europeans hate the US and use the coldwar BS argument ignoring the fact it takes two to tango. Why don't they ask why the Russians/Chinese are so offended by a defensive weapon? America's fleets of B2s and Ohios w/ their 9000+ nukes should scare them more than a limited defensive shield.
China is just using Liberal/European stupidity (hook, line and sinker) to slowdown the US while they forge ahead.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/30/pentagon_in_china_space_n_cyber_panic/
Do a search on "China US cyberspace" and you'll see plenty of examples of how China only wants to bring peace and happiness to bargain shoppers.

Also makes you wonder how long the Russians have been working on that new missile they unveiled a few weeks ago. They don't seem to miss the ABM treaty either.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL2961467120070529?feedType=RSS&rpc=22

It's easy to make a $3000 car when you don't need to add any safety features whatsoever, just like its cheaper to build things in China because you don't have to waste money on frivolous things such as worker safety and emissions.

Only thing I buy from Wal-mart is motor oil, filters, wiper blades and depending on the brand, shampoo. Clothing can come from Bangladesh/Vietnam/Mexico etc. However, some things you have no choice.

Last thing, since I get off topic too much wheneve rit comes to China. China is dead scared of entering a coldwar with the US because the US accounts for their entire trade surplus (China has a deficit with everyone else they trade with) and Vietnam/India are more than capable of replacing China's slave labour. I can't think of very many Americans who'd shop at Wal-Mart knowing they're financing the enemy. The Russians are completely dependent on Europe's appetitie for their oil/gas. They also can't dependon China to buy if China loses the US as a market.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 6/17/2007 5:29:20 PMView My AgentSpace
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I could have a fleet of twenty Dacia Logans. That would be good fun.

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