Report: Bmw sees fragile market rebound after Q3 miss

nothing you just said is correct. First, the X3 is not a brand new model, it's the oldest model BMW currently sells. They're hardly even building it right now because it's outdated versus the competition. The totally new one will be out next year, which I am sure will sell just as well as the X3 did for the first four years it was out (which was "very well"). Second, the X6 isn't supposed to sell in huge numbers. It's a niche model, you're not supposed to see them on every street corner. Are you seeing Audi S5's all over the place? No? Why do you suppose that is? Is it because it has "very bad sales figures" (sales figures which, by the way, are almost identical to the X6)? No? That's not why? It's not a bad seller? Oh, then maybe because it's Audi wants to keep them exclusive and rare. Interesting how people totally love and understand that philosophy when Audi does it, but when BMW does the same thing, it's a sign of disaster. Very interesting indeed.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 11/5/2009 2:55:07 PM | | Votes: 3   

JRob, it is a well known fact that BMW drastically scaled back their predicted figures for the X6, which had nothing to do with production issues or keeping up with demand. You honestly think both Audi and BMW would purposely restrict sales of 2 $50-70k vehicles just to keep them niche?? This isn't a limited edition vehicle or collector's vehicle. If I walked into a BMW dealership and inquired about buying 10 X6s for my business, they wouldn't pepper me with questions, they'd simply give me a timeline for delivery.

They're exclusive and rare because they're not exactly a steal for their respective categories.

— StarSearch (View Profile)

Posted on 11/5/2009 3:19:42 PM | | Votes: -4   

Did you know that the X3 is in last year of production. Did you know that BMW contract with Magna Styer expired and it's costing BMW more to have one built,ergo the build very few. The new X3 is just a year a way. Did you know that the X6 is a limited production car, and is doing ok (Check out the resell value article). In a recent Car and Driver the X3 (the oldest of the group) finish second to the brillant Q5. The GLK by the way finish dead last.

— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 11/5/2009 3:45:13 PM | | Votes: 1   

"You honestly think both Audi and BMW would purposely restrict sales of 2 $50-70k vehicles just to keep them niche??"
Yes. That's how you keep them desirable, by not flooding the market with them. People like diamonds, right? Diamonds are valuable? If diamonds grew on trees and were readily available, their value would diminish and they wouldn't be sought after. Why do you think Audi has had a waiting list for S5's and R8's for over a year and BMW dealers sold out their entire allotment of 2008 X6's just two months into production? By your logic they should have just built and built and built. How'd that work for GM? Not too well.

"If I walked into a BMW dealership and inquired about buying 10 X6s for my business, they wouldn't pepper me with questions, they'd simply give me a timeline for delivery."

100% dead wrong. They would absolutely pepper you with questions to make sure you weren't an exporter who planned on shipping the X6's outside the U.S. It's one of the hottest cars on the market for exporters. Feel free to give it a shot. In fact, here's an experiment for you: call up any random BMW dealer and in a fake accent (Russian works well, but any accent will do) tell them you want to buy even one new X6. See what they say. Now try asking for 10 of them.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 11/5/2009 5:51:11 PM | | Votes: 3   

lolz. X3 sold well? they never did, unless you compare to 1 series.
X6 limited production car? they prodicted 4k a month or so when it fist came out. limited? as 4k a month? heck, then honda S2000 and Lexus SC are more limited than X6.

don't fool youself. the X3 and X6 are sales failures. just like Acura RL.

— ghosthunter (View Profile)

Posted on 11/5/2009 8:21:09 PM | | Votes: 0   

4k X6's per month? You are outside your mind. And the 1-Series was projected at 10k per YEAR. In its heyday the X3 sold over 40k units per year. Nice try though spreading misinformation ghosthunter.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 11/6/2009 2:22:46 PM | | Votes: 0   

JRob THERE ARE 6 CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AT MY DEALERSHIP, 2 ARE ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR AND 4 ARE IN THE BASEMENT!!! BMW OF NORWOOD as of Sat. (My buddy works in parts). Yeah, I bet they'd only sell me one though, right? hahaha!!!

We went through this same routine with you last time, people linked articles showing you that they lowered their numbers, and I even told you to call my dealership if you thought I was lying. All you did was deny the obvious, implying that BMW would actuallydeny someone who would even want to order one.

Oh, and Audi of Westwood MA ha THREE R8s (2 out front) and 2 S5s right now.

— StarSearch (View Profile)

Posted on 11/6/2009 10:19:32 PM | | Votes: 1   

Limited production means limited production. The first year out worldwide numbers were 40k it sold that many. The X6 was never meant a huge seller. As far as the goofy 5er GT all it has to do to exceed sales goals in the US is to sell 1001 cars. BMW on plans a 1000 cars for the US. More important cars will be the new 5er due in June and the X3 next January. The X1, not so much, look for it to cost about the same as the new X3 because of the cost savings of building the X3 in the US.

— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 11/5/2009 5:39:13 PM | | Votes: -1