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STUD or DUD? The 2009 BMW 7 Series Leaks It Way On The Web

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STUD or DUD? The 2009 BMW 7 Series Leaks It Way On The Web

As you all know the BMW 7-Series will make its world debut at the Paris Auto Show later this year.

However with only four days before the official information from BMW,our spies have found on the official images of the 2009 7 series on Flickr.

As you can clearly see the design is inspired by the CS Concept in both the headlights, and rear lights with LEDs.

As soon as high resolution shots become available you know will have them up. Along with the full specifications.

But we have to ask. Does BMW have a STUD or A DUD with the new 7 Series?

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STUD or DUD? The 2009 BMW 7 Series Leaks It Way On The Web

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ThierryHenry14 - 7/3/2008 10:11:55 AM

+37 Boost

Not a big fan at all... I must say a major let down....

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mitchatlexusofmarin - 7/3/2008 10:30:47 AM

-14 Boost

Stud

droptop - 7/3/2008 10:36:33 AMView My AgentSpace

+2 Boost

Yay! no more bubblebutt.

Booo, the front end grill looks like it's from an Audi.

Autoegr525 - 7/3/2008 11:06:16 AM

-3 Boost

It seems that BMW toned down the 7 series to make room in the lineup for the production version of the CS concept, which will be the more radical model

EI34 - 7/3/2008 11:33:04 AM

+13 Boost

DUD!

They are trying to copy the LS tailights but came out with this monster!

Jordanski - 7/3/2008 11:34:00 AM

-11 Boost

id be PROUD to stoll down rodeo drive in this car
embarrasing all the s class and ls owners =)

EL34 - 7/3/2008 12:03:14 PM

-9 Boost

The tail lights on the LS look like those on the 5 Series.

EI34 - 7/3/2008 12:41:08 PM

0 Boost

My boyfriend has a LS460 and I hate it! ;-<

EL34

Threepoint1415926 - 7/3/2008 1:49:26 PM

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Seems like misrepresenting yourself as another member as grossly as you just did would be a terms of use violation. Huh, oh well.

F1_Driver - 7/3/2008 4:36:05 PM

+1 Boost

There is a terms of use???

Threepoint1415926 - 7/3/2008 4:48:59 PM

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I assume there is or was. Language and name calling obviously at the top for it's the biggest reason to be banned. That list and any reason added to that list (Most TOU's include misrepresentation) would constitute a Terms of Use whether written or implied.

HokkaidoWind - 7/14/2008 2:15:47 AM

+1 Boost

Nothing wrong with the current 7-series though.

adamsaf723 - 7/3/2008 10:14:10 AM

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They were too safe with it. I say Stud because it looks good, but it is below my expectations.

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Teknik - 7/3/2008 10:14:14 AMView My AgentSpace

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Total DUD...

Too boring, and it is already OUTDATED looking.

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ThierryHenry14 - 7/3/2008 12:13:23 PM

+12 Boost

thinking the same... I think you pinpointed it exactly what was wrong with it...

lexusrox123 - 7/5/2008 7:24:26 PM

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shake your head while reading this word: the tail lights

guambombboy - 7/3/2008 10:14:17 AM

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Dud!

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silver1 - 7/3/2008 12:03:29 PM

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Agreed.... I very disgusted. The Current BMW 7 series is a stunner, this is a BIG LET DOWN!!!! It seems like they tried to make it look like both the Lexus LS and the Hyundai Genesis. It look like both of those cars put together. I'm upset that BMW tried copying the Lexus LS, I know sales are great on the LS, but dang Bimmer, this car is just horrible. It's looks like a 2007 LS model without a refresh.

I'm very disappointed. And when the current 7-Series first hit the streets it was a everybody want-wow-factor-gotta-have-it-car. It surely want be that way this time.

BMW what happen? What went wrong? Did you have some layoffs or something? This is not the BMW message that I would expect. It looks like an Acura RL, or did u decide to go with the Japanese look?

BMW, You have some serious explaining to do. Cause I'm up-set.

Hantra - 7/3/2008 12:07:27 PMView My AgentSpace

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Are you kidding!?

I don't really like the design much, but you can't seriously say they are trying to copy the LS. The LS IS a copy of all BMW's most recent design cues. So the new 7 is the next logical progression of where they already were.

Yes it's going to look a bit like the LS, but it ain't b/c they tried to COPY the LS. It's b/c the LS stole most of their design cues in the first place.

silver1 - 7/3/2008 12:49:26 PM

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The Current LS looks nothing like the current 7-series. And you know it. not one bit. Not one Cue, not one strip, not one angle. the Current 7-Series is totally BMW and the LS is totally Lexus. THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE!

NOW this new 7-series favors the LS, now you tell me who copied who and the LS was release back in 2006?

Threepoint1415926 - 7/3/2008 1:54:56 PM

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I agree with Hantra on this one Silver. If you dont see a que, a strip or an angle on the LS that looks like the 7, you're looking at the LS with blinders on.

Hantra - 7/3/2008 2:16:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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>>>"The Current LS looks nothing like the current 7-series. And you know it. not one bit."

Perhaps you're looking at the Cobalt LS. ;-)

It's not just the 7 though. They took the entire BMW design language from the past 5-6 years and ganked it.

The Bangle butt even showed up on the CAMRY!!?? So don't blame BMW when the next ________ looks like the Camry.

HSCenterconsole - 7/3/2008 10:14:36 AM

-1 Boost

I see some Quattroporte in the front end of this car. I like the nose and front end. The interior is beautiful. The rear lights look a little bulbous in my opinion. I'll hold my final judgement until I see it in person.

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t_bone - 7/3/2008 10:18:16 AM

+1 Boost

Big improvement, but not really innovative. It highlights how bad the current one is, that the design language is so bad that there was no place to go with it.

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Notjustlex - 7/3/2008 10:25:31 AM

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I am usually a fan of BMW design but this one NOT SO MUCH! Good luck with that....

kpaxx - 7/3/2008 10:23:12 AM

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Looks: safe for this segment.

Guts: Driveline beyond reproach!

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Gambit - 7/3/2008 10:32:24 AM

-2 Boost

It shouldn't be flashing considering the type of people who will likely buy it, so it looks good. Inoffensive but nice is about where they should be aiming

michal1980 - 7/3/2008 10:25:24 AM

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YAWWWWWWWWWWN

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golfer38 - 7/3/2008 11:14:51 AMView My AgentSpace

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I'll tell ya', its so hard for a manufacturer to win. First, BMW gets criticized for their current design, "Banglebutt" which is at least unique. Then they go the more conservative route and get criticized again.

I think the design is elegant. Its a nice evolution.

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Jordanski - 7/3/2008 11:44:50 AM

0 Boost

haha golfer38
the banglebutt gets critisized
yet countless automakers copied it

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EL34 - 7/3/2008 12:04:37 PM

-8 Boost

staar - pud pud pud

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wac77 - 7/3/2008 3:01:27 PM

+1 Boost

On the last year before the update, that's to be expected. We'll see who is the sales winner one or two years from now.

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JRobUSC - 7/3/2008 3:11:06 PM

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wow, shocker, the much more recently redesigned S-class and LS are outselling a seven year old 7-Series that is set to be replaced at the end of the year.

Also just in, "death" continues to be our nations #1 killer.

Staar, using sales figures for only this year doesn't prove anything, except that you're either too lazy to look up more relative figures or too stupid to understand how the market works. Let me help you. For awhile the last 7-Series outsold both the LS and the S-class, both of which were old models by then. Then the new S-class came out and took over. Then the new LS. You see, the market is "cyclical". Say it with me - "cyclical". When the new 7-Series comes out it'll take the top spot for awhile, then later something else new will come out, and then something else, and then something else, and then it'll be the NEXT 7-Series, etc. "Cyclical".

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Jmiller44 - 7/3/2008 10:29:41 AM

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I think that it is a deffinate improvement from the current model! It's to bad that they didn't stick to the cs though.

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Agent63 - 7/3/2008 10:30:13 AMView My AgentSpace

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I don't mind the front end but dislike the rear. The interior's a safe way to go about redesigning. I'm sure when it's all said and done the 7er will still be a comfortable executive saloon. It may not be as good looking as an A8 or an S Class but like all saloons in this range it will be a comfortable luxurious place to be.

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dtrotter54 - 7/3/2008 10:31:09 AMView My AgentSpace

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dud...the only think cool are the lights otherwise it looks like the same old 7 series

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answer - 7/3/2008 10:36:13 AMView My AgentSpace

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I'd take a black one.

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Peyton18 - 7/3/2008 10:38:16 AM

-1 Boost

Slightly more refined...dud. S class still owns.

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Whelan - 7/3/2008 10:39:44 AM

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I do like it, but I would have a few things to say:

1) The rear does have a slight Infiniti MX Lexus LS look to it.

2) Could use a dual exhaust setup. I know BMW is known for the dual tip one side, but a dual exhaust would be nice to see.

3) Like the use of the LEDs for the signals and brake lamps.

All in all I like it, nice redesign and kinda kicks on the older 7 look more than a bigger 5 series.

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HSCenterconsole - 7/3/2008 10:42:07 AM

+3 Boost

The single exhaust looks to be limited to the 730d in these pics.

_43LE - 7/3/2008 10:39:57 AM

+3 Boost

Exterior is ho hum. Interior is just like any other BMW. I think that they might have left the door wide open.

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EL34 - 7/3/2008 12:06:03 PM

-8 Boost

Sounds like a recipe for success :~)

_43LE - 7/3/2008 12:18:45 PM

+3 Boost

Yeah, BMW competitors' success.

Teknik - 7/3/2008 10:40:46 AMView My AgentSpace

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Tacky side vent - check!
Eyebrow headlights - check!
Parts-bin gear selector - check!
Boring analog gauges - check!
Ugly tail-lights - check!
Crashing your car while using the internet - check!
DUD - check!

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EL34 - 7/3/2008 12:01:24 PM

-7 Boost

The gear selector is ergonomically designed for the human hand.

Get with the program and stop making silly comments.

_43LE - 7/3/2008 12:19:41 PM

+4 Boost

That's the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it!

Threepoint1415926 - 7/3/2008 1:59:39 PM

+1 Boost

Boring analog gauges? Dear god, you're not one of those types that likes those awfully tacky digital gages?

0to60 - 7/3/2008 10:41:55 AM

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Dud. Nothing exciting about the interior or exterior. It looks as if it should have been introduced in 2002. Time to step it up! Maybe it has more of a presence in person. I will wait to see it then

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PlanB - 7/3/2008 10:42:24 AM

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BIG DUD.

I remember a few months ago one of the many photoshops that came out had it looking a lot like an overgrown 3 series and this is exactly what it looks like. I think all the crap they took over the outgoing generations design got to them and they just went completely safe this time. This just doesn't grab me at all. I'd take an S-Class over this ANY day.

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Peyton18 - 7/3/2008 10:43:39 AM

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Those tail lights are out of a drug induced design session. UGLY. Over all the car is trying to say too much with its design with too little coming out.

Secondly, the interior SUCKS. I have never seen a car cost so much with such a lack luster interior. Total copy of the last one, nothing sparkles, nothing is new, and those air vents look very small with a lot of clutter around them. I really don't think they are thinking over in bmw design studios.

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EL34 - 7/3/2008 10:48:55 AM

-7 Boost

Rolling artwork.

Stud!

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GTR35 - 7/3/2008 11:27:06 AMView My AgentSpace

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Are you serious? This thing is a major DUD. Especially that horrendous rear. What is BMW thinking/smoking?

EL34 - 7/3/2008 12:02:19 PM

-2 Boost

Thank goodness it doesn't have all those gurly lines like an Infiniti!

_43LE - 7/3/2008 12:16:41 PM

+7 Boost

Yes, it has the ugly lines of bad design.

w209w114 - 7/3/2008 10:55:05 AMView My AgentSpace

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Very inoffensive and evolutonary styling. Front end from the side locks a bit blocky but was well executed. The interior has telematics to rival any possible carmaker in the world.

It's not as elegant as the S-Class but we have to remember thats not what BMW was going here. Overall the car is well done.

My only issue if I had to nit pick is that massive steering wheel.

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CLK63BlackSeries - 7/3/2008 10:56:08 AMView My AgentSpace

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OMG IT LOOKS LIKE THE LS!?!?! DUD!!!!

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EL34 - 7/3/2008 12:07:40 PM

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That's because Lexus copied BMW ;-)

EL44 - 7/3/2008 12:38:08 PMView My AgentSpace

+8 Boost

keep dreaming EL34.

F1_Driver - 7/3/2008 4:40:59 PM

+2 Boost

The only thing BMW wished it copied from Lexus's LS is the sales numbers.

CLK63BlackSeries - 7/3/2008 10:56:51 AMView My AgentSpace

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DUD

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CLK63BlackSeries - 7/3/2008 10:57:17 AMView My AgentSpace

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dud!

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SixxFive - 7/3/2008 10:57:57 AM

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Mixed feelings about the new 7. Having not seen the car in person, from these 1st pics I have to say there really is no "wow" factor. Thinking long term - I wonder how this design will look in 8 years being that it already appears so similar to the current 7. After looking at these pics several times, my thoughts go back to the Benz S class. In this segment, the S is still the "wow" car - no wonder it is the global sales leader in this segment.

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CLK63BlackSeries - 7/3/2008 10:58:24 AMView My AgentSpace

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DUUUUUDDDDDD!!!!

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Bored - 7/3/2008 11:24:56 AM

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@ the troll MichaelTaylor,

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."

- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Sadly, I liked you better when you were "JoshLexus4Ever" and you wanted Megan Fox to be your mommy!

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mx5series - 7/3/2008 11:05:14 AM

+3 Boost

Looks like a bad attempt by KIA/Hyundai to copy the Lexus LS. I agree that they were gun shy here given the controversy the current 7 at endured at model intro.

You know what - I like the current one better!

BMW Owner

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MaindrianPace - 7/3/2008 11:06:29 AM

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Love the proportions
Like the back end
Not that keen on the tail-lamps
Don't like big Grilles
Interior looks pretty good

Overall much better than the E65/66, aesthetically not as good as the E38.

IMO prettier than the S class, sportier looking than the A8, less flabby looking than the Lexus thing.

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MaindrianPace - 7/3/2008 11:07:26 AM

-1 Boost

Think I'll make the ffort to go to the London motorshow if this is going to be there. I'd like to see one in person, Bimmers tend to look better in person.

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Designer1 - 7/3/2008 11:11:12 AM

+1 Boost

Side, rear, and interior are a major improvement, but the front still looks sad as the current model. But over all, its a stud, they finaly fixed the 7 series.

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Audiphile - 7/3/2008 11:12:42 AM

+2 Boost

Not a bad-looking car. However, I wish that they had gone for a bolder look.

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dlin - 7/3/2008 11:21:31 AM

+3 Boost

DUD!

What is that big red blob at the back? Looks like some Sci-Fi director designed it.

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ghosthunter - 7/3/2008 11:21:37 AM

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so much for I-drive, remind me what's the function of I-drive again? i count 27 buttons and that's excluding I-drive.

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amazinBimmer - 7/3/2008 11:24:13 AM

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of course.. stud

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Jordanski - 7/3/2008 11:29:36 AM

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hmmm
not feeling that rear-end
looks like a VERY nice car though
MILES better than that bloated camry lexus calls the ls

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222max - 7/3/2008 11:31:55 AM

+1 Boost

Neither Stud nor Dud. It's somewhere in the middle. Some things work while others don't. They watered the CS Concept down too much to get to this.

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Jordanski - 7/3/2008 11:38:43 AM

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already looks old?
that was my first impression of the ls460
this thing is miles away into the future
stop hating because you cant slash your 4 year lease on your ls460
=)

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Jordanski - 7/3/2008 9:58:29 PM

+2 Boost

at least bmw has design language
yeah the ls460 doesnt look like a "lexus"
nobody know what a "lexus" looks like
bmw wont make radical changes because wherever you see a bmw...
you know its a bmw

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EI34 - 7/3/2008 11:34:55 AM

+5 Boost

LS wannabe, look at the tailights..sad

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Jordanski - 7/3/2008 11:52:32 AM

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why would anybody want to copy the flab lexus thing?
it has no original styling cues
and just blends into the sea of sheetmetal on the road

when i see a lexus on the road
i dont go "OOOH LOOK ITS A LEXUS"
when i see a bmw on the road
it usually grabs my attention with the radical and daring styling cues

Bored - 7/3/2008 11:38:45 AM

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Sorry to offend BMW fans but outside of the photos designating this 7-series as a 730d (diesel), this is a total DUD! As other here have noted, it does look like the Lexus LS. Now the LS is a good looking vehicle albeit conservative, but this should not be the type of car that comes from the Bayerische Motoren Werke!
The 1st car that came to mind, to be honest, was not the Lexus, but the NEW Hyundai Genesis sedan! There just isn't anything about it that stands out as one of "The Ultimate Driving Machine". Sure, it will definitely drive like one, but its outward appearance could be easily mistaken for something else