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So When Times Are Tough Why Do People Flock To Honda?
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submitted on 06/20/2008
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So When Times Are Tough Why Do People Flock To Honda?
Suddenly Honda is a success — again. The 2008 Honda Civic became America's current best-selling vehicle in May, as some 53,299 examples hit the road in a single month. This is a new sales record for the Civic, almost 14,000 more cars per month than the previous record for the model that had been set just the year before.
When times are tough and gasoline prices rise, people come home to Honda. There's something unique about this company that seems to speak to Americans. As Toyota rose to its preeminent position in the last few years, there were those who despaired of Honda's future, as it seems so one-dimensional compared to diversified mega-corporations like Toyota. After all, Honda is just a simple little car company.
Yet now this simple little car company is promising the introduction of a new 50-mpg hybrid vehicle in 2009, one of four compact Honda hybrids that are expected to represent 500,000 sales a year by 2015. At the same time, it's developing a new front-engine NSX powered by a 550-horsepower V10 and featuring all-wheel drive. And Honda is equally capable of unexpected innovation, as with its unibody Ridgeline pickup truck, which more manufacturers are adopting as the template for fuel-efficient trucks in the future.
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auto001
- 6/20/2008 1:30:41 PM
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Everybody should be driving a Honda, they just don't realize it yet :)
When you get in, you know you'll be take take of, and it will not leave stranded in the middle of the road.
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Star
- 6/20/2008 1:40:52 PM
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"it will not leave stranded in the middle of the road."
Of course not. It will leave you stranded on the side of road. Got to respect the Japanese for that.
kpaxx
- 6/20/2008 1:49:23 PM
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My best friends 1989 Accord was a POS the transmission was replaced three times!
Agent63
- 6/20/2008 8:21:13 PM
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Three times for a 19 year old car isn't too bad if you ask me. It could be worse.
flozel1
- 6/20/2008 1:31:03 PM
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Toyota should buy Honda.
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hao420
- 6/20/2008 3:14:02 PM
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personally hate Honda, but i love Acura.......<
07mcs
- 6/20/2008 6:19:37 PM
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hao420:
Honda makes Acura.
audirevolution
- 6/20/2008 11:13:28 PM
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hao:
Acuras are rebadged Hondas...you can't deny that.
hao420
- 6/21/2008 10:01:33 PM
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Have u guys think if all D Honda in D market wearing the "A" badge...........i mean their got enough capability to build a premium car.
Star
- 6/20/2008 1:39:10 PM
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Simple. The masses do what they are told to do.
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Etoile_suce
- 6/20/2008 1:54:27 PM
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Why are you using that lame argument again?...talk about a broken record!
Star
- 6/20/2008 1:55:37 PM
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Because the truth is only ONE...
Etoile_suce
- 6/20/2008 2:06:56 PM
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Yup, and you don't understand it.
Star
- 6/20/2008 2:12:09 PM
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Obviously I am the only one between the two of us that KNOWS the truth.
Etoile_suce
- 6/20/2008 2:16:00 PM
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Judging by your past comments, unlikely.
Star
- 6/20/2008 2:22:03 PM
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Your judging? LOL...
Etoile_suce
- 6/20/2008 2:32:18 PM
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Well, not just me, almost eveyone on this site. It's hard to think of anyone that's received as many negative boosts and negative commets as you. But that's okay, we love you for you comic relief.
utahnkid
- 6/20/2008 4:17:58 PM
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You two having fun in your circle jerk? Both of you need a life.
daytonaviolet
- 6/20/2008 8:33:44 PM
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Funny, Utahnkid, howyou joined in with 2 people that need a life.
Vantage
- 6/20/2008 1:45:57 PM
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Whose telling us to buy Hondas? I never got that memo. They are a great value for what you get....
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Star
- 6/20/2008 2:13:53 PM
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Vantage "I never got that memo"
You didn't? Honda is getting sloppy...
_43LE
- 6/20/2008 2:08:49 PM
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It doesn't matter who had the first one, it matters who is making a difference.
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0to60
- 6/20/2008 2:09:53 PM
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Well where is it?
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Lemonade
- 6/20/2008 3:04:31 PM
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So, where is that GM Hydrogen Vehicle at?? I hope they're not burning peoples houses down like their trucks are.
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Htay7500
- 6/20/2008 9:18:49 PM
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"Because they are stupid???? Who had the first hydrogen powered vehicle on the road.GM!!!!!! EFF YOU Honda!!!"
why the bashing? jealousy?
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Agent009
- 6/20/2008 2:19:48 PM
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I love this comment:
When the subject is sales, people talk about Toyota. But when the subject is cars, people talk about Honda.
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Star
- 6/20/2008 2:38:52 PM
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That's because Toyota actually sells the biggest amount of cars while Honda is the choice of the sheep who thinks choosing a Honda over a Toyota makes them enthusiasts. Those are the "people" that talk about Honda. Is really that simple.
Edmunds is probably the most loyal brainwashing machinery that works for Honda. No surprise to see that they continue their work with articles like this that make enthusiasts puke, literally.
Years and years of telling people that Honda and Toyota are the best choices and now are we actually wondering why it became a reflex for the masses to asociate these brands with the best choice in cars? Let's get real.
ChicaneShooter
- 6/21/2008 10:02:07 AM
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brown star, you are a simple, plain, out and out phucking idiot.
has it ever occurred to you that millions of hondas and toyotas are sold to REPEAT BUYERS? they don't NEED no opinions from magazines they prob'ly don't read anyway. they KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE they're getting the best vehicles on the planet.
i believe both brands have among the highest rates of repeat buyers, as much OR MORE than the bubbas who ONLY USTA buy whatever pappy drove. (and many of whom, contrary to prior OPINIONS, were trading their domestics on new tundras! until the pickup market softened.)
and i'd bet anytime you come across a honda or toyota household, you'll find AT LEAST TWO in the garage or driveway. this applies to both my neighbor and myself, and we are just ONE PERSON households!
another TWO toyota household i know as friends, is a two person household. yet another only owns one, but had THREE separate toyotas in the past 3 years. (along wtih a mazda truck). several more two toyota owners, are three-person households, BUT have only two drivers!
i'm sure hundreds of others across the country have similar stories about themselves, friends, and acquaintances.
Vantage
- 6/20/2008 2:27:38 PM
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evilm, thats funny shit...'kick em in the balls' On a side note the new Accord isn't bad looking at all.
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ghosthunter
- 6/20/2008 2:39:56 PM
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because Honda talk less and do more.
also, becaue honda is a much smaller compnay (compare to Toyota, Nissan, subaru, mitsubishi) they can quickly adjust to the market changes.
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lenkun
- 6/20/2008 2:41:02 PM
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FWD inline-4 Hondas are for little girls. Real men with balls drive BIG OLD Yankee trucks with a Detroit built V8 that can haul a$$ and two $hitloads of cargo.
My grandma drives a Civic...
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Lemonade
- 6/20/2008 3:08:18 PM
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Wait a minute! are those the same "Real men with balls" at the Honda dealership trading in their "BIG OLD Yankee trucks" for a Civic? What has the world come to?
daytonaviolet
- 6/20/2008 8:41:42 PM
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Really, lenkun, usually it's SMALL men, with BIG insecurities that drive big trucks. Granted, a small percentage actually drive them for work reasons. But when you see a nice clean truck driving in the city, you can make your own conclusions.
ChicaneShooter
- 6/21/2008 10:15:10 AM
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lumpenhead--
i drive a V4 honda, and IT GETS RESPECT from all the 'manly types' i come across who drive harleys.
ChicaneShooter
- 6/21/2008 10:37:28 AM
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and at the risk of over-generalizing, harley riders are the 2-wheeled equivalent of v8 'yankee pickup' drivers.
both types can and often do MAKE A LOT OF NOISE. but come out on the short side when zapping from any pt a to pt b.
BMW995
- 6/20/2008 2:48:30 PM
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When you look at 10 to 15 yr old cars on the road, there are no Toyotas, GMs, Fords in this age group - only old Hondas are still on the road.
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utahnkid
- 6/20/2008 4:10:53 PM
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What are you talking about? I see 10-15 year old vehicles of just about every make driving around. If you're talking about a car lasting longer than 10 years it has WAY more to do with how well it was maintained then what brand it is. ANY car from ANY manufacturer that get's driven hard and isn't taken care of won't last 5.
0to60
- 6/20/2008 4:11:42 PM
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I see plenty of old toyotas
85bmw745i
- 6/20/2008 4:41:59 PM
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except in the hood, there are crown vics and caprices, but they are all beat to hell and run like $hit lol!
ChicaneShooter
- 6/21/2008 10:28:44 AM
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i see many 20-yr-old toyotas still used as daily drivers.
and this is in alaska, where most lesser vehicles die early, if not garaged and/or babied.
eric452
- 6/20/2008 3:06:53 PM
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Honda has the most efficient cars on the road
no doubt
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montyz81
- 6/20/2008 4:11:18 PM
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this is a silly article. Not sure why so many words had to be written when that needed to be said was. Gas prices are up so people are buying fuel efficient cars. Honda happens to benefit from that. There i just summed up this article and all the responses.
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BostonBiosafety
- 6/20/2008 4:16:29 PM
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bravo
auto001
- 6/20/2008 5:20:43 PM
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your argument is sound if "only" Honda made econo cars, and since this isn't the case, you need to read the article again.
Porschinator
- 6/20/2008 4:14:48 PM
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Because people settle. Not to put another car on here but everyone I know only bought a Prius becuase they had to. None of them actually like the car. This is the same for most people that buy an econo car...they have to.
Honda's Hybrid in my opinion is much better than the Prius and averages less than the Prius. My buddy just got the Honda hybrid and likes it. Of course he rather have a 335i.
Also most people tend to buy Honda's as their secondary car or commuter and a lot of people commute. Build quality is better than Toyota and GM. But they are catching up. So good for Honda...
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kkkat
- 6/20/2008 4:30:51 PM
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If money wasn't an issue, people would've made their decisions way differently. Well said. "they have to".
Lemonade
- 6/20/2008 10:43:41 PM
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"everyone I know only bought a Prius becuase they had to"
You can't be serious!?!? So, the people who didn't buy the Prius got..???
Lemonade
- 6/20/2008 10:53:33 PM
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I don't know about the planet you're from but the planet I'm from.. People have choices and I'm sure they're smart enough NOT to blow $22K+ on a vehicle that they don't even like. What part of the Universe are you from Prochinator? Did you even consider reading your post and asking yourself if it even made sense before you posted it? Hybrids aren't the only favorable choice when it comes to fuel economy especially with these gas prices. There are a lot of alternatives such as VW diesels as well as a conventional 4 Cyl gasoline cars.
I'm sorry, but if I'm forced in to spending that much money on something "I don't even like".. go ahead and shoot me..
ChicaneShooter
- 6/21/2008 10:45:14 AM
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you must be DREAMING UP EXCUSES for why you THINK people buy priuses.
they only happen to have THE HIGHEST OWNER SATISFACTION RATES. only corvette owners are close to having more owners who "would buy another."
and incidentally, my brother HAD TO BUY a 2d hand porsche, because his original was DYING. and this INTNEDED "parts car" became the running one. before it too was retired for unreliability.
mwrmmg
- 6/21/2008 11:28:15 AM
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Cos Toyota can give them what others can't or incapable.
excuses....
EL34
- 6/20/2008 4:33:27 PM
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Save the planet.
Buy American made products designed by Americans.
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_43LE
- 6/20/2008 4:38:40 PM
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And exactly how will that save the planet?
07mcs
- 6/20/2008 6:25:04 PM
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If you are talking in the context of pollution, then I don't think so, specially if you are referring to the typical American V8, They consume more fuel than a typical 4 cylinder car. How would that do to save the planet if you are polluting more and consuming for natural resources?
auto001
- 6/20/2008 10:33:59 PM
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No, EL34 is just growing frustrated with his current German car. He knows he should be driving a Japanese car but thinks a German car makes him feel "elite"... this is the same conundrum shared by most of them.
ChicaneShooter
- 6/22/2008 3:05:24 AM
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and ironically, even buying american is a lot more sensible than buying german.
those who want the BEST vehicles that are STILL BEST after 2-3 years (having superior reliability and durability), will continue to buy japanese.
Htay7500
- 6/20/2008 9:17:17 PM
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many people don't want it, they need it. when something like certain hondas get good mpg, people are going to need it to save cost. fits at the dealership where my dad services his car are selling like hotcakes because it comes with both great fuel efficiency and a good amount of space. test driving one is near impossible, and when one comes, its going to be bought off the truck than the lot. I can't blame honda for what they're doing but credit should be given where its due. cheap gas prices could be gone forever just like cheap airline tickets nationwide.
EL34: you just said earlier in another thread that you don't care about the environment earlier?
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mpls
- 6/21/2008 5:00:39 AM
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EL34 has no car, he's just a spotty faced teenager with toy cars to play with.
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2ndbimmer
- 6/21/2008 10:38:41 AM
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good question. i would only drive a honda if it was given to me. true story.
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saudi_ali1982
- 6/21/2008 11:25:15 AM
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honda is kinda stuck between classes, its not luxury (not even near luxury), yet its quite more expensive than toyota...spare parts prices are off the roof (atleast in the ME) and not all honda's are available here. for example we dont have the pilot, but the accord, odyssey and civic are evrywhere. when driving a civic or an accord you know ur driving a better quality car than a camry or a corolla...
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ChicaneShooter
- 6/22/2008 3:15:27 AM
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ummm. NOT true, according to stats compiled by CR over many decades, with a database of millions of cars.
hondas ARE good. no one doubts that. but style and sportiness aside, toyotas are superior over the long term.
vehicles from most mfgrs. get 100 problems per 100 cars after 5 years of age. fords take 7 years.
hondas take a bit over 10 years to have that problem rate. toyotas, over 17 years.
hondas may cost more in the ME possibly because there are less dealers, so distributors and dealers can get away charging more.
but price alone DOES NOT necessarily reflect quality. (which is the primary reason toyota is passing general motors by, in global sales. NO OTHER BRAND gives such high quality and durability for the money.)
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