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Posted on 2/28/2009 10:37:47 AM | | Votes: -2   

unfortunately, in his defense, many of the british colonies have turned out quite successful. singapore, hong kong, south africa (POST-apartheid), canada, united states, australia, new zealand, nigeria, egypt, bahamas...etc

but what about iraq somalia, burma, israel, and sudan?

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 2/28/2009 3:33:56 PM | | Votes: 1   

Matthew 7:20, Sailor. Btw, the land that God gave Abraham/Israel extends far beyond Israel's current borders.

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Posted on 2/28/2009 4:17:43 PM | | Votes: -2   

"Do you believe everything you read?! The bible is just another story... It is no more real or true than the next fictional book!"

Sailor, as a dyed-in-the-wool (and pie in the sky) religious fanatic I actually believe 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

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Posted on 2/28/2009 9:39:57 PM | | Votes: -4   

Sailor, sometimes there's no use in arguing with Turbospyder because he is so delusional with his quasi "logic" and superior bible thumping ways. He will never change because he really does not want to be a better human. He only wants to point out the shortcomings of other people not like him. Have you seen the film "Religulous" from Bill Maher? I know you would appreciate it, I was dying of laughter.

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 3/1/2009 11:15:53 PM | | Votes: 1   

43, masses of people deluding themselves bring entire nations to collapse (i.e., America today.)

Bill Maher always reminds me of Joe Camel. The guy is also a first class fool. I would like to see pictures of his parents and his grandparents when they were young - they had no business reproducing.

— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 7:59:55 AM | | Votes: 0   

Maher making fun of Steve Irwin's death.

http://skeptisys.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/bill-maher-steve-irwin.jpg

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Posted on 3/2/2009 8:05:45 AM | | Votes: 0   

Turbo, Rational logical truth hurts sometimes doesn't it? If you saw the movie, that's what it was about. Bill Maher is a brilliant comedian, and that's why you hate him, like so many other people you hate that are not like you. You also hate him because he's made a career out of exposing something you bought into or were indoctrinated into believing. Be afraid....be very afraid...

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 8:50:38 AM | | Votes: 2   

From a Live Science article:

“Most scientists agree that life went through a period when RNA was the head-honcho molecule, guiding life through its nascent stages. According to this 'RNA World' hypothesis, RNA was the crux molecule for primitive life and only took a backseat when DNA and proteins—which perform their jobs much more efficiently than RNA—developed.”

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“But the RNA World hypothesis doesn't explain how RNA itself first arose. Like DNA, RNA is a complex molecule made of repeating units of thousands of smaller molecules called nucleotides that link together in very specific, patterned ways. While there are scientists who think RNA could have arisen spontaneously on early Earth, others say the odds of such a thing happening are astronomical.

"‘The appearance of such a molecule, given the way chemistry functions, is incredibly improbable. It would be a once-in-a-universe long shot,’ said Robert Shapiro, a chemist at New York University. "To adopt this [view], you have to believe we were incredibly lucky."


http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/070822_gm_life_origins.html

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Summary: It was statistically impossible for life as we know it to have evolved spontaneously on its own even though all of the physical laws of the universe and fine tuned for life to exist.


How do scientists like Richard Dawkins explain the fact that the fundamental physical laws of our universe are just right to sustain life? They speculate, without one bit of evidence, that perhaps there are an infinite number of universes and we just happen to life in one where everything is fined tuned for life to exist.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/generalscience/dest_pb_test.html

— TurboSpyder (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 10:03:42 AM | | Votes: 0   

Here is a non-rhetorical question that I’d like you to answer, 43LE. In the Old Testament of the Bible, God said that He would “scatter” the Jews throughout the nations and that He would eventually return them to their homeland.


Ezekiel 22:15 
15 I will disperse you among the nations and scatter you through the countries; and I will put an end to your uncleanness.


Ezekiel 36:24 (New International Version)
 
 24 " 'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land.

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The Jews WERE scattered from Israel starting around 70 A.D. and Israel became a country again in 1948. How do you explain the accuracy of these ancient prophesies? Do you know of any other religions or myths where such prophesies have actually come true?


And 43, do you know what YOU should be afraid of? Hind attack helicopters.

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http://img218.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-2158/loc48/52443_mi35copter_pic_122_48lo.jpeg

http://img226.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-5486/loc481/52450_610x_122_481lo.jpg

http://img151.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31490/loc582/52445_HIND_122_582lo.JPG


Revelation 9:7-10 (NIV)

7The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. 8Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth. 9They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. 10They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months.


Saint John the Divine two thousand years ago trying to explain modern machines he had never seen before.

Crowns of Gold: Helicopter main rotor

Faces resembled human faces: Helmeted pilots

Hair was like women’s hair; Smoke cascading down from the exhaust or missile launches

Breastplates of iron: The armor plating

Sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses: Rotor noise

They had tails and stings like scorpions: Helicopters have tail rotors and tails. They also have missile for striking out.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 10:08:25 AM | | Votes: 0   

Quote from a Jun 6, 2008 Reuters news article titled "Israel to attack Iran unless enrichment stops"

"Mofaz also said in the interview that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has called for Israel to be wiped off the map, 'would disappear before Israel does.'"

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0625195820080606

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Psalm 83:4

4 "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation,
that the name of Israel be remembered no more."

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Posted on 3/2/2009 10:19:59 AM | | Votes: 0   

So why didn't you answer my question? How do you explain the fact that history has borne out what the Bible said that the Jews would be scattered into all the nations of the world and then returned? And why no comments on Revelation 9:7-10?


"How do you explain the dinosaurs? Or that science has proven that the earth is several billion years old?"

I don't doubt that dinosaurs existed or that the physical earth is billions of years old.


Matthew 3:9

And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham


"Who has the right story about 'god' and creation?! Who is correct? Did you know that muslims believe in many of the same prophets as you do?"


Do you not know what the Bible says about some prophets?


"The reason why you hate Maher so much is because you know he is right, you can't prove him wrong beyond 'the bible says otherwise'."

The proof is unfolding right in front of your eyes. What Jesus said in the Gospels about the coming famines, plagues earthquakes and wars of the end times are now starting to unfold and will get increasingly severe. Again, read Revelation 9:7-10 in my post above.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 11:04:19 AM | | Votes: 0   

Dear God, please save me from people like Turbospyder that believe in you!

TurboSpyder, I have studied for several years as a biologist and an evolutionary biologist. If you have seen what I have seen you would not feel the way that you do.
Just because we can't yet explain how RNA arose on the earth or where it came from does not automatically mean that the bible is correct, you are not a good scientist and not very logical. I do not discount the possibility of other explanations but I do discount the super-natural and especially the mythologies that man has created to try to alleviate his numerous questions about the universe.

Thanks for the quotes from the bible, I have read enough already, now it's time for you to read another book, not one about Judaeo-Christian mythology.

It's funny when people try to defend their arguments with the bible because you know that's when they really don't have one.

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 11:07:07 AM | | Votes: 2   

"Life began as simple virus like bacteria and developed from there."


Do you not know how absolutely biologically complex bacteria already is?! Re-read about RNA in my post above.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 11:08:18 AM | | Votes: 0   

43LE, why are all of the fundamental physical laws of our universe "just right" to sustain life.

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"There's a reason some theorists want other universes to exist: They believe it's the only way to explain why our own universe, whose physical laws are just right to allow life, happens to exist. According to the so-called anthropic principle, there are perhaps an infinite number of universes, each with its own set of physical laws. And one of them happens to be ours. That's much easier to believe, say the anthropic advocates, than a single universe 'fine-tuned' for our existence."


"'It's not a testable idea,' says Paul Steinhardt of Princeton University. Because the different universes would not be detectable by one another, he says, 'You can't really prove it exists or doesn't exist.' When you talk about multiple universes, Steinhardt says, you're not talking about science anymore. 'In my view, you're into metaphysics.'"

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/generalscience/dest_pb_test.html



Romans 1:20 (New International Version)

20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 11:15:44 AM | | Votes: 0   

So when the hard questions are put to you you run without even trying to answer them? See my post at 3/2/2009 10:08:25 AM.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 11:27:42 AM | | Votes: 0   

"...I have studied for several years as a biologist and an evolutionary biologist. If you have seen what I have seen you would not feel the way that you do."


Dr. Francis Collins, who was the head of the international Human Genome Project that mapped the human genome disagrees with you.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51n0ZqEW55L._AA500_.jpg

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Posted on 3/2/2009 11:37:07 AM | | Votes: 0   

Sorry, I got bored reading your comment and overlooked your question. Was this it?

"Do you know of any other religions or myths where such prophesies have actually come true?"

No, because I'm not a religious fanatic. I rely on reason and educating myself to make informed decisions. Statistically, like Nostradamus' several prophecies, if you make enough of them, some are bound to become true. Nostradamus has been proven to be fake, why not the bible?

The problem with your reasoning is that you use too much inductive reasoning. As I have mentioned to you earlier, study the world with an open mind, not one cluttered with baggage from what was drilled into you since childhood. True enlightenment cannot be attained with a closed mind.

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 11:49:01 AM | | Votes: 3   

"Dr. Francis Collins, who was the head of the international Human Genome Project that mapped the human genome disagrees with you."

Sure, I could still believe in some type of organization within the universe and that we are part of a bigger whole. I'm not adverse to that, but if you have seen what I have seen you would certainly not believe that the earth was created in six days and is only 6000 years old. I don't think that Dr. Collins thinks that either. Your problem is that you are not comfortable with the unknown and are satisfied in believing in something for security reasons. I am comfortable in saying that I really don't know all the answers and will always search for them my whole life. Isn't that really what life is about? Finding out, discovering, becoming enlightened?

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 11:58:33 AM | | Votes: 3   

continued...

(the mutations themselves are random) evolved to create the infinite complexity and order of life on earth require less faith? Evolution is your fairy tale belief system.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 2:30:24 PM | | Votes: -1   

"Sure, I could still believe in some type of organization within the universe and that we are part of a bigger whole. I'm not adverse to that, but if you have seen what I have seen you would certainly not believe that the earth was created in six days and is only 6000 years old. I don't think that Dr. Collins thinks that either."


Dr. Collins *is* a Christian. He did not come from a religious family and he was not a Christian in his youth. He came to his faith after getting his education.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 2:38:59 PM | | Votes: -1   

More proof that Biblical prophesy is correct.

The populations of England and Germany and all the other European countries were homogeneously white up until a few decades ago. Even the U.S. was 90% white up until the early seventies. Today that has completely changed as you well know.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2997/peopleenglandfw.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6317/peopleusafw.jpg



Was this predicted in the Bible? Yes in Daniel chapter 2 where Daniel describes the worldly kingdoms that would rule the earth until Christ's return.


Daniel 2:40-44

40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 3:19:32 PM | | Votes: -1   

"Jules Verne foresaw the Television, moon journeys, phones and more... Does that make him a prophet?!"

Which is completely different, don't you think, from a whole people being forced from their land and then returned thousands of years later as was prophesied? Where are the Edomite, Canaanites and Hittite people of that time, today? God has not only kept the Jews as His people, He has returned them to their land as He said He would. There will be 3D holographic television some day! If that comes true, will I be a prophet? No.


"As to your little prophecy there, you seem to forget the actual context of it! The rest of 36 hasn't really come through as the Israeli people doesn't really seem to loath themselves for their filthiness."


Part of Ezekiel 36 has clearly been fulfilled with the reestablishment of Israel as a nation and the rest will soon be fulfilled.

Prophesied:

Psalm 83:4
4 "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation,
that the name of Israel be remembered no more."


In the news today:

From a June 6, 2008 Reuters news article titled "Israel to attack Iran unless enrichment stops"

"Mofaz also said in the interview that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has called for Israel to be wiped off the map, 'would disappear before Israel does.'"

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0625195820080606

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"I can see that the one proof that the bible is in fact true is that one phrase saying that god would lead the Jews back to their promised land"

There's also Revelation 9:7-10 that you didn't comment on:

7The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces. 8Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth. 9They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. 10They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months.

http://img203.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3830/loc575/52441_Mi24StaticMaks2005_122_575lo.jpg

http://img218.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-2158/loc48/52443_mi35copter_pic_122_48lo.jpeg

http://img226.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-5486/loc481/52450_610x_122_481lo.jpg

http://img151.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31490/loc582/52445_HIND_122_582lo.JPG



"And if you believe that the earth is billions of years old, how can you then, at the same time believe that "god" created it in 6 days? What about Noah and the great flood?"

The Bible says explicitly in 2 Peter 3:8 that a day to man is not the same as a day to God . And all of the different cultures on earth have a story that was handed down from generation to generation about a great flood that flooded the earth.


Does your believing that life spontaneously sprang into existence and then by random chance (the mutations themselves are rando

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Posted on 3/2/2009 3:51:47 PM | | Votes: 0   

continued...

(the mutations themselves are random) evolved to create the infinite complexity and order of life on earth require less faith? Evolution is your fairy tale belief system.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 3:52:10 PM | | Votes: 0   

...sure am glad i took a break from autospies for a few days

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Posted on 3/3/2009 11:36:10 AM | | Votes: 0   

FYI, the other day, when I asked you about whether Europeans or Africans should be allowed to immigrate to the USA you did not answer either, that's because you're embarrassed to admit that you only think that Europeans should be allowed entry.

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 12:01:23 PM | | Votes: 2   

Do you know what the immigration laws in the U.S. used to be? They didn't let in all Europeans.

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Posted on 3/2/2009 2:34:06 PM | | Votes: 0   

From the early 20th century

— abcd (View Profile)

Posted on 3/2/2009 4:09:35 PM | | Votes: 1   

I know that in the depression era 1930's there were "Taxi Girls" that men would pay to dance with them and whatnot and most of these women were eastern European. So ... was it eastern European taxi girls?

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Posted on 3/2/2009 4:41:45 PM | | Votes: 1   

Samuel Goldwyn, Adolf Zukor, Warner Brothers - Eastern Europeans

"The grand irony of all of Hollywood," as Neal Gabler points out, "is that Americans come to define themselves by the shadow America that was created by Eastern European Jewish immigrants who weren’t admitted to the precincts of Real America."

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Posted on 3/2/2009 4:56:00 PM | | Votes: 1   

"Do you know what the immigration laws in the U.S. used to be? They didn't let in all Europeans."

After I read this I remebered myself some documentary that I saw some time ago about "who created Hollywood".

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Posted on 3/2/2009 5:00:23 PM | | Votes: 1   

Albert Einstein was Jewish too (not German). Btw, Hollywood is still Jewish.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column

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Posted on 3/2/2009 6:17:25 PM | | Votes: 0