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Spies give you a first look at the 2008 Lexus LX570 on the street-Most colors and a new one too!

Agent001 submitted on 11/29/2007 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 3:45:28 PM

187 user comments | Category: Photo Galleries | Source: www.autospies.com

Tag Link: 2008 Lexus LX570 press preview

Although we're not allowed to give you our driving impressions of the 2008 Lexus LX570 SUV until December 20, 2007 (Global embargo date), we CAN show you an amazing photo gallery of the new truck in most of the colors that will be in dealers in early January.

Unfortunately, if you love the blue color, you may or may not see it until a year from now.

Should Lexus even offer it in that color or should it never see the light of day?

Let them know in the comments below.

Spies give you a first look at the 2008 Lexus LX570 on the street-Most colors and a new one too!

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I didn't like the LX at first, but it is growing on me now; the blue color is not bad, I like it in silver better though.
— Luxurious (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:01:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I miss the old one already. Love the interior but let's be honest the is one big ugly truck thing.
— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:07:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -5

UGLY, it looks like the new land cruiser.
— xj13 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 4:37:29 AM | | Votes: 2

The LX570 and Land Cruiser are one and the same.
— ElSparquito (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:50:54 PM | | Votes: 2

Sorry, guy, I love this interior but none are even close to the luxury,taste and quality of the Range Rover.
— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 7:26:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

houston:

have you ever been in a range rover? the seat alone with their gorgeous contrast piping outshine this very nice toyota.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:54:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

houstoncutie2000,

I have, and put several thousands of miles on the both Range Rover and the current LX, (the LX is best towing vehicle I have driven). When I comes to interiors, the Range Rover has no peers.
When I speak of quality, I mean of interior materials and design. I agree with you that as far as reliability goes Rovers are a horror, Although I have never heard of a dash braking.
Off topic the BMW powered Range Rover seem to be a little better, just scary not a horror.
— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 3:28:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

The new LX is nice... but no, the blue color doesn't work.

I'm glad the interior is finally significantly different from the LC's; I just wonder why it took them this long.

It is a mistake for them not to offer seats that fold into the floor.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:17:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Fold flat seats are practically a necessity nowadays.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:45:32 PM | | Votes: 1

As long as Lexus is making a true truck based SUV like the LX and GX, there won't be seats that fold into the floor. Usually, fold into the floor seats are only found on car based SUVs.
— markymark (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:58:54 PM | | Votes: 5

A live rear axel makes that impossible,this vehicle is sold globally,and the U.S. is the smallest market.This is a true off road vehicle,unlike the mercedes G-class garbage.
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:06:52 PM | | Votes: 0

The Mercedes G-Class (and Land Rover Range Rover) is a much more capable off-roader than the new LC/LX, which is a step backwards in terms of axle technology.

They should make a different model for the US--LEXUS's biggest market--that does not have a live rear axle and does have seats that fold flat.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:50:51 PM | | Votes: -1

you are an idiot autopro to not even acknowledge the supreme off-road capabilities of the g-class - it's legendary. The RR is a legend also
Even though Lexus is a upstart "luxury" manufacturer based on toyota chassis, I give them RESPECT for what they have achieved in the short time the company has been around
On the other hand, your immaturity blinds you from seeing the light - I'll leave you there
— Monk (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 11:30:41 PM | | Votes: 3

S4-
I have to disagree. I think in terms of off-roading capability, the Land Cruiser/LX is just as capable, if not more so, than the Range Rover. Sure, the Range Rover is more technological about it, but the Land Cruiser has the title for the highest climb on some volcano in Japan (I think it's Mt. Fuji), that includes the Range Rover.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 11:59:20 PM | | Votes: 1

For the record, the GL-Class (not to be confused with the G-Class) is NOT more capable off road than a Land Cruiser. Stop smolking crack. The Range is the king, however.
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 9:50:46 AM | | Votes: 1

Oh please. The GL has been tested numerous times and has performed with flying colors offroad.

People seem to have this mental block that:

Range Rover = Good Offroad

Landcruiser = Good Offroad

ANYTHING ELSE = NOT
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:27:08 AM | | Votes: 1

When have I claimed that the Q7 is an off-roader?

I don't even off-road, ever, anyway. So I don't care one bit if I'm buying an SUV.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 4:00:03 PM | | Votes: 0

that blue makes it look like a popsicle.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:23:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Yeah, it cheapens the exterior in my opinion.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 11:59:51 PM | | Votes: 1

I'd take a Range Rover over this any day.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:24:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

Me too. But this is a great alternative. Trade off it Looks vs. Reliability.

The blue is a disgrace..who would buy that? It looks bad even on a compact car.

As per usual with Lexus, I like the interior more than the exterior. It looks comfy and tech'd out...but the RR has sex appeal.
— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:37:39 PM | | Votes: 2

You better take two for when one's in the shop.
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:04:04 PM | | Votes: 0

I'd take an Escalade over this too. Its not bad, just wouldn't be my 1st, 2nd, probably not even 3rd choice.
— PlanB (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:06:58 PM | | Votes: -2

I regret I only have one boost to give for such a logical and tasteful statement.
— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:53:09 PM | | Votes: 0

Since when did Lexus start making Escalades?
— Obliv (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:28:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4

No, Cadillac makes Escalades, not Lexus ;)
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:00:49 AM | | Votes: -2

Fugly.
Next victim 2009 GX470.
— topneuro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:30:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

There sold out for the first year you moron,please grace us with another insightful review as it will be a rounding success.
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:11:01 PM | | Votes: -6

The GX is already hideous.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:52:00 PM | | Votes: -1

The only problem with the GX is from behind. It looks too tall and clumsy. Other than that, it's a nice SUV.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:02:08 AM | | Votes: -1

I never was an LX fan. But I do love the old GX470, can't wait to see how they remake that thing.
— Whelan (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:44:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

The interior is of course very good (dull in black though) - but that blue...that's even brighter and jazzier than my car...and on my car it's called jazz blue! not a good colour methinks.
Not particularly distinguished from the front, slabby and plain big from the rear - this is not an attractive car.
I'm not going to attack it for looking "American" because obviously it's designed with Americans in mind.

In my mind is still not as good as a Range Rover, but then again nothing really is.
Good competition for the GL though.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:51:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

"I'm not going to attack it for looking "American" because obviously it's designed with Americans in mind."

Actually, this car is more popular in the UAE.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:52:55 PM | | Votes: 1

you mean good competition for the gl in off-road capability
for design, looks, and the engines offered, the GL rules I have to admit
— Monk (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 11:21:37 PM | | Votes: -1

Oh I'd still choose the GL over this monstrosity though.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:04:13 PM | | Votes: 0

The new LX is nice, but why doesn't it have a hybrid option?

And that blue color? That is the most horrid color ever applied to a Lexus. I thought the metallic baby blue color available on the RX and IS was bad, but this is crazy!
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 4:52:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Why don't you have a brain?
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:11:28 PM | | Votes: -3

Because I am the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz.

You must be one of the flying monkeys.

Hello.
— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:13:59 PM | | Votes: 3

"That is the most horrid color ever applied to a Lexus."

I think the AARP Bronze available on the LS460 is worse.

A hybrid LX would get all of 2MPG better. It would be a marketing gimmick, like all the other huge "green" SUVs (Escalade hybrid, anyone?). The only one that makes a bit of sense is the GL320 CDI.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:54:28 PM | | Votes: 3

I'm gonna order a diesel GL in a month!!!
— Monk (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 11:28:12 PM | | Votes: 1

This thing looks as if it was designed in 1980, it's horrific!!!!!
— Jag_xfr (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:27:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

This comming from someone who likes the design of the XF.........
— I95SPEEDINGTICKETS (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:23:20 PM | | Votes: 1

Stop looking in the mirror!
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:04:35 AM | | Votes: 1

I don't mind the appearance of the new LX. I think that it may look nicer inside than out, but whatever. Now, on the blue. I think that this is Lexus copying Cadillac, and it worked for Cadillac. So why shouldn't Lexus offer it? Most of you may not like it now, but just wait until it's in some rap video sitting on 24's draped in the color blue. Then everyone's going to want a blue LX. The truth about the future lies in the facts about the past.

Killbot
— KillBot (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:47:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

"Most of you may not like it now, but just wait until it's in some rap video sitting on 24's draped in the color blue."

I can't think of an image that would make me want that car less.
— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:10:19 PM | | Votes: 1

the front and the side of the car are nice. the back is where it goes mostly wrong.

as for the blue...*vomit*, nuff said
— LexusKindaGuy12 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 5:56:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4

there should be a diesel version for this and the LC.
— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 6:08:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Diesel how? Like Dodge Ram diesel or Mercedes-Benz diesel? If anything, it would be a hybrid rather than that.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:05:40 AM | | Votes: -1

why not? its durable, easy to maintain, longer distances and 10k mi oil changes, plus a ton of TQ under your foot. that would make it a beast off-road.
— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 8:52:03 AM | | Votes: 1

making it a hybrid makes no sense at all but just to increase the weight of this car.
— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 8:53:41 AM | | Votes: 2

We get a diesel LC in Europe (the old LC though).
It's an old fashioned, big ol' 4.2 6 cylinder job with about 200 hp. Quicker than the 4.7 petrol though.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:05:38 PM | | Votes: 2

sounds awesome, I'd love it if it came to the US. the one sold here uses a bit too much gas.
— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 4:50:02 PM | | Votes: 1

I tell you, it sounds like a tractor.
Refined it ain't.
And 201 hp from a 4.2...11.1 seconds to 60 anyone?

Especially when compared to the 320cdi GL, which has more hp AND torque, and is quicker and more fuel efficient and has more rear seat room...never mind the 420cdi or the 3.6 TT V8 diesel in the Range Rover.
— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 6:21:08 PM | | Votes: 3

GL320 cdi is sold here. nice combination of luxury, off-road and a clean diesel. the new LC will be out with a new V8 tt diesel, only for global markets. hard decision here.
— Htay7500 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 6:51:30 PM | | Votes: 2

First off I like Lexus trucks and most of the L-finesse line. What did the Lexus design team spend twenty minute on it? The more I look at it the uglier it gets.

Stylistically, this thing is a train wreck. the front, is bland at best. The back in seems to be making some sort of alien gapping maw face at me, as if it's about to vomit poor design. The side of is nightmare, come on Lexus, your suppose to be separating yourself from Toyota design, not with this truck. A side shot reveal an uncanny resemblance to the wrong Toyota, It looks like an Bloated and beach Highlander, not a good thing.

The blue makes it look exponentially worse.

The worst part is that Lexus/Toyota usually hangs on to the LX/Cruiser design far to long. UGH!
— theoptimisticpessimist (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 6:18:48 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

"The back in seems to be making some sort of alien gapping maw face at me, as if it's about to vomit poor design."

This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:56:37 PM | | Votes: 2

The LX 570 rear end look like the rear end of a castrated rhino.
— richard112360 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 6:30:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

How do you know what that looks like? Did you look?!?
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:09:02 AM | | Votes: 1

For me it looks like a bad facelift of the old LX. I like the old one, but not this one.
— noname00 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 6:54:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Just more of the same.... well made, bland outside, comfy inside.... not a very big departure... But who cares, soon these beasts will go into history books if gas prices continue to soar like they are.
— atomicbri (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 7:23:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Eeeeew! I'd take a Cayenne, Range Rover, or X5 any day before being seen near this estrogen-mobile.
— supermoto (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:05:26 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Great photos Agent 001.

I wish the LX570 interior could be available in brown leather, like on my BMW 335i Convertible; or even the Red Rock leather soon to be available on the new Toyota Sequoia.

My LX 470 has grey interior, and previously I've had the sickly beige Lexus interior in an LS and an SC.

I like travelling in the LX470 because its so comfortable but I'm bored with the beige and grey interiors - are you listening Lexus?????

Now that Mercedes finally has reversing cameras maybe its time for me to switch to the GL rather than move to the LX 570.
— MercBasher (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:23:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

You'll like the GL.

The GL450 is a very well-rounded piece, but get the GL550 if you're in the mood for something a bit faster and more obnoxious.

I'd change my AutoSpies name first, though.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:58:14 PM | | Votes: -1

Like people have said many times

The USA is the SMALLEST Market for this Vehicle, there is a big market for this vehicle where it will encounter non paved roads regularly, In most Countries in the Middle East this will be bought by many people who need the luxury but do not need the hassle of the Cayennes and other Tarmac Off Roaders {King of SUVs on Tarmac but not too sensible for regular Off Road Incursions}

Same can be said for Well To Do Consumers in Africa, South America, Australia.....

Pretty much the rest of the world.
— I95SPEEDINGTICKETS (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:29:28 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

Not Europe or Eastern Asia, though. This car's main markets are probably the UAE and the US.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:59:16 PM | | Votes: -3

I would get the Mercedes Benx GL550 because it's the coolest!
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 9:59:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I see a lot of the Lexus GX styling cues in the GL.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:11:35 AM | | Votes: 1

Really? Where? To me, it looks like a big M-Class, which looks like the old M-Class but newer, which came out six years before the GX470.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 4:03:47 PM | | Votes: 1

I was wrong about the Highlander so maybe I'd like it better in person, some pics seem a bit skewed giving it rather odd dimensions. The 3/4 blue pic is good, but some others make it look too tall and bloated.
The Escalade is still king of brashness and looks bigger as well.

I noticed there are only 2 visible cupholders. Come on, the GX has 4 in the front!

I probably wouldn't buy one though, it's more than I'd ever need.
— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 10:18:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

I have not seen one in person but I have to say it looks small, which I know it is not but my concern is that it looks like a Highlander! I like the last variant but the designers went to sleep on this one. I can't see spending $60-$70k on this design.
— wildcatman (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 10:57:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Will probably have the same poor quality found in it's kissing cousin, the Tundra. A confused design. Wants to be brutish, but can't be for American tastes. The running boards and mud flaps reduce ground clearance to sedan-like effectiveness. Women will complain about getting their legs and clothes soiled by the running boards. Appears to have the same cheap and thin Toyota leather that permanently wrinkles in 50k miles. Looks like the same cheap plastic and mouse fur headliner found in Toyotas. Why are they afraid to show the engine? Why not just weld it shut to save money on the plastic covers? Most Lexus people can't even find the hood latch anyway, much less know anything about engines.
— nojapcrap4me (View Profile)

Posted on 11/29/2007 11:20:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

for some reason the design looks like it was taken out form parts no longer used in other cars
— arcy (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:01:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

I like it. But luxury cars should stick to more conservative colors. That blue is to zappy for a luxury vehicle. They should have made it a midnight blue metallic instead of that.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:03:51 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

Just another thing, people keep saying things about the design being from L-Finesse. Just to put you back on the right track, only four of Lexus' vehicles underwent L-Finess (GS, IS, LS, ES). The ES was the last Lexus to get L-Finesse. Lexus even said so when the ES 350 debuted. This LX has hardly anything to do with L-Finesse.
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:08:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Please stop saying "L-Finesse." It pisses me off. So unnecessarily obnoxious.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 4:47:29 PM | | Votes: -1

Wow, excuse me. How dare I be so careless?
— lexusis350 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 12:01:30 AM | | Votes: 0

LOL!

such a comment from someone who LIKES being obnoxious?

"...get the GL550 if you're in the mood for something a bit faster and more obnoxious."
— ZZZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 2:56:00 AM | | Votes: 0

I know you've studied my life under much scrutiny. Yes, it's very obnoxious of me to have bought an Audi S4, because that is so obviously one of the loudest car designs on the market.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 5:53:45 PM | | Votes: 1

where were these pics taken, looks like the same spot in vegas where the audi r8s were?
— Fan1234 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:20:33 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

hideous
— CLK63BlackSeries (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:23:51 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

the interior does not flow aesthetically...
— CLK63BlackSeries (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:29:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

its not only the interior that does not flow - its the entire truck - every single part of this thing looks completely disjointed. i have a 2004 and was looking forward to trading in - but no matter how hard i try to like the new 570 - i just cant. ive seen it three times in person - and it is just not pleasing on the eyes.

all that i like about it is... it's side profile. everything else terrible! front looks like its nose is up in the air - as if its screams snob from a mile away. the back is just - umm - to take CLK63's word - HIDEOUS.

and the inside!!!??? THE nicest part of the past LX was the perfect symmetry and proportions of the inside - there are surfaces and angles going in every direction on the interior of thing - also why is there less wood on this truck - doors especially - rear doors in particular - and why in hell didnt lexus fix the front center cup holders so that they have some depth so to actually hold a variety of diff cup sizes with out them tipping over? look at the lexus water bottles in the pictures - take a turn and no matter if you move those little arms to hold the bottle - those bottles will be in motion - just like in the previous cup holders - ill put money on it.

the whole dash board and center console look like the tackyist things ever (the prior shift gate looks sooo much classier and elegant). last - ALRIGHT - seats do not fold into the floor - REASON - this is platformed on one of the worlds best off roading vehicle - the land cruiser, BUT - LEXUS i hope you are reading this - there is NO chance in hell that i will buy this thing if the 3 row seats are not completely removalbe.

- is this a rumor or what? now that the third row seats are electrically folding - that they are permanently attached to the truck? THE REAR CARGO SPACE IS MINIMAL DUE TO THIS! i cannot remember how many times ive put down the second row seats and removed my 3 row ones to haul stuff around.

style always takes getting used to. but having less wood in the truck, the same useless shallow cupholders, and a third row thats not removable - you'll loose me as a customer.

one thing that looks great tho - the rear climate control stack - beautiful!! looks like it could have come out of an audi or benz - too bad the rest of teh interior does follow suit.

but at the end of the day lexus still knows that it has a monopoly on this segment. im not about to be getting to a pos escalade whose transmission will fail after 3 years (ive had a 97 suburban, 99 denali, and 02 escalade - each gone as a result of such), and im not going to buy that pos mercedes gl-class. the inside does not feel like a proper mercedes - period. plus its still too small for my needs (6 ppl in the fam) the gl while it wants to be a full sized vehicle is just not - its somewhere in between a mid sized suv and a full sized one.

top that off two vehilces that i would pick in a heartbeat both dont offer 3rd rows - mb g-class and rr? if mb was smart they
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 3:12:54 AM | | Votes: 4

oh the g... the mighty g... my dad drives the g... now THATS a truck!
— CLK63BlackSeries (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 9:28:25 AM | | Votes: 3

dbs, you should look into an LR2.

I don't see what's wrong with the GL-Class, though. If you've ever sat in one you would know that it DOES have top-notch materials and good ergonomics, especially the leather dash and stitching on the seats.

Not as good as the X5, though. Too bad that third row is useless.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 4:53:24 PM | | Votes: 1

s4: first, take note that this is dbs600 writing. whatever the reason, it seems that what i wrote above struck a nerve with autospies or lexus or both. my password to dbs600 is not working and i have requested it multiple times to be sent - has not in more than 24 hours!? has autospies cut my freedom of speech to this site!? i am at a loss for words. im 99% sure that the password i am attempting is / should be correct!

thank you for the suggestion, but just to put things in perspective for you - of where i am coming from - 1. i have sat in the gl more than 10 times (lets say i have a habbit of visiting an mb dealer AT LEAST once ever 2-3 months - a hobby when i have time to spare) and 2. i have owned a 94 s500v since new (1994 being the year before the w140 price drop of $9k).

so. ASIDE from the sl, 1st gen slk, and g lines, in my mind there has not been a proper mb since 1999 (read: 1994) - the last year of the w140.

along the way mb has hit some pretty large bumps - 1st gen a, 1st gen ml, 1st year of the current e, the total lack of quality of the pre faclifted w220 s, to name a few. BUT they are getting back on track, cls (yes, even though it is based on the current e chassis and looks nothing like a traditional mb from the outside - i just feel mb in its dna), and w221 s/cl.

anyway... getting to the chase - the gl just does not do it for me. i am indifferent to both hard and soft leather interiors, but the qual of leather on the gl is just below grade (besides the lx and s, i also have a 2000 range rover which has hard leather, but is of a much better feel - cant explain it otherwise) - additionally - the seat controls are just NOT mercedes - neither is the strange second row bench(which is similar to the range rover sport second row - of which i have a similar complaint) - also the feeling when you shut the rear side doors from the inside - again just not mb.

what the gl does have is an amazingly spacious 3rd row - which i give kudos to the lr3 for aswell (it's that split rear axle). otherwise the gl is still not a full size suv- need something with more width for 6 full grown people: along the lines of expedition, tahoe/yukon/suburban, landcruiser, etc..., you get the idea. and the only thing on the market besides american - besides qx56 - in this luxury class is the lx. i guess its a take it or leave it situation. especially with the next to nothing liklihood that land rover will be making a larger suv and that mb will make a true full sized truck.
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:24:47 PM | | Votes: 2

ALSO - other complaints i have noticed about the new lx -

what's with the after market looking single screen rear dvd player - tons of players in the market are offering dual front headrest mounted screens -

MOREOVER - the blind spot that the c-pillar - looks worse than the current lx - must be checked out when test driving for the first time - no amount of cameras will supplant the safety of being able to see on your own.

ALSO - the center seat in the second row does not look as comfy / as much of a separte seat as the current model - especially w/ that new center armrest and lack of head restraint (safety?? where are you??)
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:31:22 PM | | Votes: 1

I understand your point of view. As long as you have experience with the cars you have my respect.

I don't think Merc has made an SUV with a truly luxurious interior, yet. I'm hoping this will be amended with the next batch.

As for their quality niggles. I think that is a lost era. As the W221 models prove, they are right up there with the best again. The S and CL could be the two best luxury cars in the world. I love them both. The CL especially has a simply stunning interior. The S's is tied with the A8 in my book... but I'd still want an S8 or A8L over it, because that's just me. I would feel slightly cliché driving an S550 at my age. I'm not old, but just middle-aged. Every middle-aged guy with some semblance of success drives an S-Class. That's why I'm going to be test driving the S8 in the Spring, and not the S-Class.

I don't know what to say about your SUV problem. You may have to just get over your complaints and pick one. Because you've covered just about all of them and why you wouldn't buy any of them. Have you considered the Audi Q7? I'm not sure about the third row in that one, but it's certainly elegant, inside and out. You would have to get S-Line on that car.

If you didn't need a third row, it would be the BMW X5. We picked up ours last week. Beautiful and perfectly built, inside and out. The V8 has nice grunt and it handles well.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 1:46:51 AM | | Votes: 1

s8 vs. s63 is a difficult decision. very, very difficult. i would drive both - if a dlr allows. if you have a relationship with either dealer, maybe even have one let you take an s550 demo home one weekend and then an a8 the next. at the end of the day it just might come down to a coin toss.

a co worker took delivery of the sickest color combo s8 this past summer (dark grey exterior / red interior). special delivery on two counts - interior color - AND the supposidly $7k bang and olufsen sound system.

in any event. two very worthy autos. gluck.
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 2:37:58 AM | | Votes: 1

as for me. i was looking forward to trade up to the new body, not necc that i need to at this time. so it just might be that for the time being ill sit w/ the 04.

but all in all, i dont believe it will be one of those that i plan to keep forever - as i do my two other vehicles - as the lx satisfies my high mileage daily driver need (for now).
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 2:46:26 AM | | Votes: 1

Ah, the S63 AMG is a bit out of reach. I just don't want to put down $130K next year. The S8 is in fact very close to the S550 4Matic in price--they are within $3K of each other. However, I won't be driving the S; my wife wants it, but I would just feel like "another" schmuck in an S-Class...

The S8 is so different, so fresh, so beautiful. But I also have the compact performance cars to consider--M3, 335xi, S5, RS4, IS-F, even the decidedly un-compact BMW M5 and Audi S6. So at this point I have no idea. I won't be driving all of the cars I mentioned, and AWD will get the priority, but they are all quite tempting...
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 10:06:12 PM | | Votes: 1

BTW, I might even consider the CL! That car is a dream. However, if I got a CL550 (preferably a CL63 AMG if I do well next year...), it would be my primary vehicle. Most of the other cars I mentioned (sans the S8) would be "winter cars." And I'd keep the S4 for awhile longer. But the CL would be something, like the S8, that I would want to drive all year long.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 10:08:05 PM | | Votes: 1

Interior, comfortable no doubt, but ugly and mismatched. And the exterior, just ugly and mismatched.
— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 3:13:39 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5

and to respond to the comment abt the engine compartment being surrounded w/ plastic - i think it has more to do with road noise reduction than not requring customers to bring their autos into a lex service center.

all in all - verdict: this thing will sell, and very well at that. i dont believe the soccer moms who drive this thing in the US will care about these little things - all that they know is that theirs is the older body and that theyll want the newer one.

— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 3:28:42 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

the old one only sold about 6,000 a year...and i don't think this one will sell much more. nothing close to the 25,000+ range rovers sold.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:59:48 AM | | Votes: 0

plus, what are lexus inteirors turning into? bmw's from the 80's? ive never seen soo many identical looking buttons with only differences being whats written on them since.

plus - i didnt really realize it in person (out of the three time i saw it in person - 1 time i got to check out the entier interior (on display at the us open) - but it looks like the passenger hvac temperature controls may be out of reach for the driver???
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 3:32:07 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

not bad for an ugly SUV, i still luv the 2nd gen LX better...but its funny how some "SO-CALLED CAR LOVERS" say the GL in the same sentence as an LX, ha funny posters, LMAO its like saying an honda civic type R drive smoother than an R8 SMH
— Denali (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 4:35:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Have you ever driven a GL? I think not.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 4:55:11 PM | | Votes: 1

Hideous truck. I like the styling of the new Landcruiser much better. The LX570 just looks like a fat pig. The design is unproportional, the interior looks terrible (design-wise) and the luxury bias probably means it WON'T BE AS OFFROAD CAPABLE AS THE LANDCRUISER.

Also, what's up with idiotic Lexus fanboys bashing the Range Rover or Mercedes G/GL? Those cars are extremely offroad capable. Every review for example has praised the Mercedes GL's offroad capability. It might not be as sporty as the X5 or Q7, but it trashes them both when it comes to offroading, so I've read.

Now, a hybrid LX570? What a waste of time. I'm not in favor of hybrid SUVs because the moment you leave the city environment they will consume even more gasoline than their stock gasoline counterparts (thank the extra weight for that). A hybrid SUV makes no sense, be it the Porsche Cayenne Hybrid etc. A *DIESEL* powerplant is the way to go for overweight SUVs like this.
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 5:03:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

i like that interior much better than the exterior~
the quality of the material and the finishing are very very good, but actual styling is a bit old fashion, at least to me.
— dayday (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 5:11:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Sorry, But I think its cheap and nasty to look at, nothing like a RR, X5.
— xj13 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 7:21:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Following on the heels of the re-designed chub nose Sequoia, comes this Highlander box look-alike? I thought Lexus was to differentiate from Toyota? The rear reminds me of the Lincoln Navigator. Everything outside looks bloated and nasty. The interior looks good though.

I thought I would like this but this design not a step forward. Too bad.
— acronis (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 8:01:31 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Wow. Amazingly ugly.
Rear looks like licoln Navigator which I hate.
— E46MANIA (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 9:47:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

and interior looks cheap and ugly too.
— E46MANIA (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:03:17 AM | | Votes: 2

Is lexus teaming up with Honda now? because front looks like Honda Accord.

Lexus should try harder.
— E46MANIA (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

People... This Model is the luxery of the New Land Cruiser 200... in Venezuela calls Roraima... for the presentation in South America... there will be a expedition to go to the for caridnals point of southamerica. all around this events demonstrade the quality of a off road car. I wachted here in Venezuela and it is very good in off road... maybe is not the best looking car... people buy toyota for quality and long year car... again ask why people buy toyota numbers doesnt lie .... numbers are numbers
— muppet (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:08:52 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Lexus just had massive recalls.
— E46MANIA (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:13:36 AM | | Votes: -1

The new Toyota Landcruiser looks pretty nice in my opinion. But for some reason, this does not transfer over to the Lexus version. Hard to explain.

Either way, I'd select the Landcruiser over this car anyday.
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 10:31:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Yes, I like the LC, it actually has a more elegant interior than this car.

bulldogz, I saw a new S8 ('08) the other day, and fell in love. Without curves, it's still just as sexy as a Quattroporte. I will be test driving it in the coming months...
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 4:58:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

First of all to me this LX570's exterior is simply gorgeous, no par with RR Sport. Interior well RR Sport is nowhere near it's luxury. I can say because last month i was driving the RR sport.

Now the people who r saying ugly, hideous…etc actually like the GL which is a jumbo ML, X5 which is no doubt ugly but still attractive, Q7 which look like a tall A6 Avant or mini van from behind, Cayenne ahh just an egg or a balloon or a pumped up/swollen 911 ...etc

do u want me to go on. I mean if u want u can bash any car.

yeah like always i can see the haters' double standards.

btw for all those who liked it and also wished for a new competent diesel in it, there is a good news.

As here in UAE, Toyota Land Cruiser is launched with an all new diesel engine.

"The previous 4.2 litre diesel engine has been replaced by Toyota's first-ever 4.5 litre V8 DOHC diesel engine, which has a third generation common-rail system and twin turbos, that deliver impressive power, fuel efficiency, and reduced emissions. The 5-speed manual transmission delivers 217 HP at 3600 rpm, and the new 6-speed Super ECT auto transmission delivers 232 HP at 3200 rpm. The dual fuel tank system greatly extends the Land Cruiser's driving range "

So maybe if we are lucky we will get it in the new LX too.

anyway goodjob Lexus.

JUGNU
— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 11:13:47 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

you have no taste in cars...you think this and the GTR are the best looking cars? please do explain.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 11:27:54 AM | | Votes: 3

then again, you do live in the UAE. not exactly a bastion of good design....home of the world's flashiest/tackiest condo high-rises and man-made star-shaped islands. not to mention the flashiest, brand-obsessed shopping in the world.
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 11:30:48 AM | | Votes: 1

I was thinking the same thing...

"X5 which is no doubt ugly but still attractive"

How does this make sense?

I was watching my wife drive off in the X5 this morning, and it's the one of the classiest SUVs on the road. Love the way it looks.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 5:00:21 PM | | Votes: 1

Good for Americans, Europeans will not like this.

I like it actually.
— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 12:02:47 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

???

Now you're the one with bad taste!
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 5:01:00 PM | | Votes: 1

I'm so happy to see all these negative reviews from the defunct german fan BOYS it means the LX will sell like hot cakes.
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:04:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

LOL!

yup, it seems the quantity and intensity of negative comments are in direct proportion to how SUCCESSFUL the lexus product will likely be!

you can almost smell the FEAR behind all the negative posts.
— ZZZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 12/6/2007 8:42:12 PM | | Votes: 1

absolutely horendous!!!!!
— 2ndbimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:05:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

seriously, the wheels are always too small for the wheel wells. It is too bubbly like a poor japanimation cartoon. Looks way too toyota. Why go to Lexus, I would rather go to toyota, and then I would never go to toyota! No road feel. It is a point A to B car.
— 2ndbimmer (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:09:21 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

I have always loved the 1999-2006 LX470. Very classy looking now. This one is a jumble of design ideas and is so so. But inside is beautiful like Range Rover. Now, why aren't those rear window tinted like the other Lexus SUVS?????
— LexusGS (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:15:54 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

"Now, why aren't those rear window tinted like the other Lexus SUVS?????"

So the occupants feel are ashamed to drive about in it, and trade it in for something nice.
— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:58:25 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

The recent truck styling trend from Toyota has been rather odd. The smallest & least expensive SUV model, RAV4, was the FIRST to receive the new Toyota exterior truck styling and the bigger & more expensive trucks/SUVs have followed suit w/similar styling cues.
Doesn't this usually work the other way around?
Otherwise, you get a bigger, more expensive, more capable & lavish vehicle that looks like an overgrown cute-ute.
— ElSparquito (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 1:59:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

bulldogz

OK everybody knows it's Ugly. but still it's desirable.

i don't know the exact word but i think u r getting it.

I mean i really like the new X5 but it's surely ugly.

JUGNU
— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 2:19:00 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

It's only "desirable" because of the badge on its hood.

You can't deny that.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 5:02:42 PM | | Votes: 0

This gigantic SUV would look good in school bus yellow, no?
— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 4:28:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

LXCALADE 570
FUGLY.
No large luxury SUV can beat GL450 third row and secluded indoor spare tire.
— topneuro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 5:12:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

"the LX is not some poser made so soccer moms have something to take their kids to soccer practice in"

Really? Because I live in an absolutely rich housewife area, and the LX is sold by the hundreds, only to be parked outside of your local Starbucks for a latté.

I think that's EXACTLY who they're selling it to, at least in the US.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 5:05:01 PM | | Votes: 0

"nope. the average LX buyer in the USA is a man who knows what he wants and who makes close to $200,000 a year. "

PROVE IT. Give me the LX470's average buyer. Gender, age, income. You think I'm just going to let that one slide?

And $200K a year! LOL! He's spending almost half his money on the thing! That is simply too low to spend $70K on a truck.

X5 is a POS? Really? Why? Why are you so incredibly biased towards Lexuses and against anything German? Can you even afford an IS250?
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 1:51:33 AM | | Votes: 0

Then how could you ever expect me to believe you?
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 5:54:51 PM | | Votes: 1

It will be a great truck, but I doubt dealers are going to want many in that color. Look for it to fade from the lineup.
— xlittlejohnx (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 5:30:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

It looks sportieer than the other giant trucks, and this one looks proportionate w/ the stock rims, so u don't have to immediately get 24"s, but I'd throw some 24's on it easy.
— StickShiftCamry (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 6:17:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

Um, sure. With that ultra low side foot well running along the wheelbase, I'm sure this truck will be "great" offroad.
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 8:47:05 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Bleek,

Idiotic comment. Seriously. If the LX570 is anything like the "Godly" LS600h, I think I know what to expect.

Marketing hype with nothing to back it up.
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 4:48:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

"why am i ever talking to you? might as well argue with a monkey about cars"

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE look at your own posts!!! And tell me that's not what they sound like! All I hear from you is how amazing Lexus is and how much everything else sucks! You are such an idiot!
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 1:52:48 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

You are endlessly frustrating.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 5:51:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

This is the new,undisputed king of the road.
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 7:03:45 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2

i like lexus..but i dont like this truck..even worse in blue..range rover or porsche cayenne..and if i had to pick between the benz and this, it would be a hard decision (exterior looks)..i like the interior though..but only in blk..just my opinion
— stash84 (View Profile)

Posted on 11/30/2007 8:59:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3087527721218487211&q=porsche+cayenne+off-roading&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Porsche Cayenne Turbo S Off ROad

Skip to 1:30 if you want to see it from when they introduce the Porsche. Watch it from the beginning if you want to see how the Land Rover was the first car ever with an eight-speed transmission, and not the Lexus LS.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 5:09:32 PM | | Votes: 0

Considering how the Lexus fans were all over the eight-speed when it came out, and how everyone was going to "copy" them, I would say it is a point of embarrassment for Lexus to tout it as their own first.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 1:54:15 AM | | Votes: 1

I didn't even notice the six-speed in the 7 Series. It was all about the styling.

I honestly don't care about who is first with the next cog in an automatic transmission, because it's a natural progression and all brands will eventually have it. Nobody is "copying" one another with that sort of thing. Real advancements are made with completely new transmission technologies, like Audi's DSG, BMW's SMG, Maserati's Cambiocorsa, Lamborghini's eGear...
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 5:49:27 PM | | Votes: 1

Just what the world needs...this thing is an excessive piece of huking metal with no style what so ever.

Even with its faults the Range Rover makes this look like a barge that had everything thrown at it and in it to compensate for absolutely no design aesthetic or class.

Next.
— ICON (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 12:48:16 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

Interesting how every post from every Lexus fan(boy) in this thread has the word "reliability" in it.

It's getting old. It's not as if Range Rover's are "that unreliable".
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 6:13:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

No, just last place.
— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:06:27 AM | | Votes: 1

There is absolutely no excuse for this fugly design from Lexus. Who do they think they are? Toyota?
— acronis (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 9:06:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Same thing! :-)
— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:03:24 AM | | Votes: 1

i like the blue but the lexus is too trucky-they should have made it more Uberbling or smooth crossover
— saintdiablosaint (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 3:08:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Bottom line is that new new LX570 is a very impressive vehicle and has presence on the street. As for the interior, how can somebody claim that it is not attractive?
I was very impressed with the GL and RR interior when I sat in them, but I felt more comfortable in the Lexus.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 5:44:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1

"As for the interior, how can somebody claim that it is not attractive?"

If their opinion differs from yours?

The interior is good. Not class-leading but not below par, either.

The outside is not particularly offensive. But I just don't like it. It doesn't carry the same elegance as the GL or RR.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 1:56:03 AM | | Votes: 0

'It doesn't carry the same elegance as the GL or RR."

I guess your opinion differs with mine.
— david999 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 8:41:47 PM | | Votes: 0

Yes.

I think the current LX470 is very elegant. It offers subtlety in its design, and looks expensive without compromising the LC's rugged persona.

But to me, the new 570 is just a bit too much. Too much chrome, an over-designed interior, too much flash. The Range Rover is also much, much, MUCH more subtle but is still even more luxurious and even more beautiful to behold and even better to take off roading!
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 10:01:48 PM | | Votes: 1

are we still talking about this nice but boring-looking SUV?
next topic...
— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 10:26:38 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0

as written above: still no dual front headrest mounted rear dvd screens? instead: after market looking single screen? c-pillar looks like it makes for more of a blind spot than the current gen lx. additionally, less spacious / comfortable looking center second row seat w/ no head restraint - a saftey consideration the current gen lx offers.
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:38:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

hate the idea of always having to have that little auxilary power port door open on the center console - something else to get in the way / possibly break.

when the center glove box under the arm rest, it looks like it should be doulbe the side of the tiny compartment that is revealed

though, features that are welcome - finally a rear window wiper and front headlamp washers,
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:46:39 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

"when the center glove box under the arm rest, it looks like it should be doulbe the side of the tiny compartment that is revealed" to read: "when OPEN the center glove box under the arm rest looks like it should be doulbe the SIZE of the tiny compartment that is revealed"
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/1/2007 11:48:18 PM | | Votes: 1

another welcome feature - keyless entry - finally!

but - what is that bulging piece on the rear bumper! - reminds me of the e-2c hawkeye military plane (just a little), except more likely just concealing the tow hitch than it being an advanced radar dish.
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 12:08:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

The new LC looks nice.

It's also quite expensive. $63K. I believe that's more than the LX470 costed when it came out ten years ago.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 1:57:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

wow. ive never seen the lc in person, only the lx. ive seen it on the toyota website, but the pics there are just not descriptive. just went on ebay after fastone's comment - the outside of the lc looks great! i am really impressed. it retains that "handsome" classy look of the prev gen. something just doesnt translate w/ the lx. its almost as if lex went overboard in trying to differentiate it from the lc. for the first time, i even like the rear lights of the lc better than the lx's. and the front is not as rakish as the lx. still like the side of the lx better tho.

interior though still not pleased. from the pics - lx interior still wins no contest. BUT at least the lc has wood strips that range from the front to the back of the door sills! shouldn't the lx lead the lc in this - not the other way around? plus wood around the rear air vents - not in the lx? dont get me wrong, im not one for those fake stick on wood packages - never in a million years - but this lack of wood on the new lx is upsetting.

everyone should def go check out ebay motors 08 lc listings. they have them up in a ton of colors.
— dbs600old (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 2:24:54 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

"the LX is much much more luxurious then the LC"

No, it simply is not.

They have different center stack designs. That's about it.

The LC in fact has MORE wood, they have the exact same drivetrains, and the exact same technology. And the LC looks better. And it costs less.

I know what I'd choose.
— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 12/2/2007 11:54:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3

suspension setup/tuning differs between the LX and LC. and of course, the lexus dealers pamper their customers.
— ZZZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 12/6/2007 8:51:03 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Gentlemen, There is a great deal of misinformation being posted. Single Best complaint: Cup holders!!They sucked before and the unchanged version still sucks. I feel the dry cleaners and the coffee shops are conspiring... Spend 80K and still burn my leg and ruin my suit pants, absolute BS
Ok some details.
The LX is a Landcruiser that was dressed up for the US market. It was a trim level in other countries: Cygnus in Japan, Amazon in the UK and Sahara most other places. Due to it's success Lexus is making it a world wide model with the 5.7 litre "Petrol" engine. (Gas to us here)
The core differences remain unchanged with the new version. The share 97% of the same gear. Which is good considering. The Front Fascia, including grill and Lights are changed to look Lexus Like. The Suspension on the LX has always been Height Adjustable and has had Varible Suspension settings for the Terrain. This remains the Case. the Old LC was Coil and Shock, the New LC has Coil Over shocks up front with a Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System( very badd ass).
The core Differences between the LC and the LX has always been the Interior Trim. Although it was the same nav and the same center console, still is. The LX is more posh. But remember, this differentiation was solely created to Justify the LX as Lexus's Brand SUV and evoke a premium. ( for most the premuim is worth it) It comes with one of the most reliable best built Diesal engines in the world, outside of the US. Tested over and over again. Many of us have tried in vain to bring them in, a few have gotten away with it, but most have had them confiscated by the government. Doesn't meet EPA requirements.
As for the Core markets, the two main Markets are the Middle East and Australia, Collectively they make up more than 35% of the market.
The average age income and other demographics for this vehicle are readliy available on the web. But to make it simple, Male, Late middle aged, income in excess of 170K this changes per country. LC owners Typically have very high net worths. While most other "flash" models tend to have High Income owners.
The difference:LC equals worth millions, "Flash" equals makes a million and spends it fixing his 100K auto.
The head rests contain an active headrest restraint in case of an accident it will move forward to help avoid wiplash, hence no TV.
We have figured out that the seats can be removed with a socket wrench, although the size escapes me. Look it up on IH8mud.com under the 200 series tech section.

As for styling, I must admit I was non-plussed when I saw it, but it is growing on me. Please understand that we get a disproportionate amount of influence on this, other countries Follow our lead since most of the vehicles are designed to meet US standards. And while I agree that there are many other Sexy and Alluring SUVs, I am not sure how many of them I would actually take off road.

The Luxus is made in Japan, it is assembled by Toyota Auto Body(formerly, Arakawa,
— justimaginejack (View Profile)

Posted on 12/4/2007 9:20:04 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

I can't spell, and half of what I said got cut off, probable a good thing.
I am not an expert, but I have studied this model and previous ones quite a bit. If you have questions ask.
The 5.7 engine will be made in japan, in an engine factory that has less than ten defects per million allowed. This is the industries best plant, so I don't feel the recall issue bears weight here. Most of toyota's recalls are from american plants. and while the number has increased over previous models, they are still no where near as bad as the second place competitors.

For those of you who are unaware of the Landcruisers History. It is the single most reliable best built off road vehicle in history. Anyone that would like to question that should, A) do research- ask why does the UN have the largest fleet, why are there so many LC's with roof mounted Machine guns in other countries? What is the History of the Landcruiser
B) Take your Pretty SUV, and make the standard off-road modifications, larger tires 33-36, metal bumpers and sliders(remove running boards)then fill up the tank and drive out to the middle of "no- where" on unpaved earth until you hit the half way mark on the gas guage. then turn around and come back. Just for kicks, do it in the sand it 120 F heat, or -20F over Ice. If you make it back, tell everyone your story. Then keep doing it until you pass 200K or more, then you might convince me and a few other to try your rig. Until then, I will stick with the Time tested Landcruiser.
— justimaginejack (View Profile)

Posted on 12/4/2007 9:37:18 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2

Other then a Soccer Mom (or grand mother) and a ghetto rapper, I can't imagine why anyone would buy one of these when you can buy a Land Cruiser with better and truer looks, best-in-class off-road process and world-wide recognition. I would just buy a LS if I wanted a Lexus and a Lexus dealer.
— jamesfletcher2 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/6/2007 10:02:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

Somebody can help me to find , from where I can buy and exported to UAE , Dubai ????
My Mail : rafdubai@emirates.net.ae
— Dilmastar (View Profile)

Posted on 1/19/2008 9:11:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1

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