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Spy Shots: 600hp BMW M5 twin-turbo spotted again
You’re probably thinking, “Wow that’s one crazy looking front bumper.” And there is a really good reason why this M5 has what seems like four intakes. Of course more intakes mean more air to cool a powerful engine under the hood. This BMW M5 is said to be fitted with a V10 twin-turbo engine producing close to 600 horsepower.

While nothing has been confirmed, previous photographers who’ve caught this beast undergoing high-speed testing said that the engine sounded more powerful than the regular M5.

If produced this would be BMW’s stab at the Audi RS6 Avant which produces 580 horsepower (understating the true figure of 600hp...
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Spy Shots: 600hp BMW M5 twin-turbo spotted again



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IS3andMEIS3andME - 10/12/2007 3:37:07 PM
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looks weird, but it is functional....I wonder why they just didn't increase displacement and made it a 5.5 or a 6 liter V10...which could also go into their proposed SL fighter and the CS sedan.

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SpectatorSpectator - 10/12/2007 3:51:18 PM
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Probably a cost saving measure I imagine. The M6 and M5 share the same engine and the M3's engine basically is an 8 cyl offset of the V10.

It's easier to add turbos and external plumbing rather than upping the displacment of an already high revving tight tolarance engine like the ones in the M's.

Cant wait to see it though. I hope they fix the front facade...I agree it looks strange.



dlindlin - 10/12/2007 9:41:45 PM
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mm 5? :)


adamblackadamblack - 10/15/2007 10:22:30 PM
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yes i agree its looks weird but it functional..... is this go into the market lot of people will buy it


M35MTM35MT - 10/12/2007 3:49:28 PMView My AgentSpace
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r_driver04r_driver04 - 10/12/2007 3:50:05 PM
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Bring the noise. Can wait for a twin turbo M3.

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lenkunlenkun - 10/12/2007 3:53:05 PM
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Now BMW finally have a car that almost could competes with the AMG SL65/CL65/S65.

Hopefully it can keep up with the other 600hp vehicles such as C7 ZR-1, Viper, Ford GT, Carrera Gt, and SLR 722.


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DaHarderDaHarder - 10/12/2007 4:14:43 PM
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"Hopefully it can keep up with the other 600hp vehicles such as C7 ZR-1, Viper, Ford GT, Carrera Gt, and SLR 722."

Ok now...

Let's get back to reality, this is a sports sedan, a wonderfully performing one, but a sports sedan non-the-less.



ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 10/12/2007 9:40:59 PM
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the 500 hp already goes 205 mph. catch up to what? I think it can hold its own...


DaHarderDaHarder - 10/12/2007 4:04:25 PM
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Still quite unfortunate in the looks department...

Question: Honestly, when will these idiotic horsepower wars end?

I, for one, drive in the real-world, where I appreciate performance for what it does to keep my vehicles in control/out of harms way.

This nonsense is nothing more than a case of 'Mine’s Bigger Than Yours' at this point… Sillyness!


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85bmw745i85bmw745i - 10/12/2007 10:16:22 PMView My AgentSpace
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I agree, Just think if these cars had the power of their predecessors 10 years back, combined with todays technology in the engines, fuel economy ratings would be great. Hell ir a 270 hp nissan altima can hit 30 mpg on the highway, think of what an older maxima with 200hp would do with this technology on top of being much lighter. My little 85 325e is only about 121, althought I have a chip intake and exhaust so I give it about 135hp, as it is a low reving engine, and the chip bumps the rev limiter to 5,300 rpm. any way the car is quite quick, much more so than the numbers would suggest, and it will smoke all of those smaller more powerful cars its size. Why, because all cars now days are fat overweight pigs. they need to go on a diet, then they wouldn't need 270 hp to do what a 200hp car did some years back. Take for example the Ford f150. 300hp and slow. about 9 seconds 0-60 while the older 245hp lightning would do it in 7 seconds.


IS3andMEIS3andME - 10/12/2007 4:18:56 PM
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I agree, with the roads in America getting so clogged up, the only time you can drive a high horsepower car is at night!!! One cannot use it's full potential on the road, but only at the track.

Onetime outside of Baltimore, there was this Gallardo that was zooming in and out of heavy traffic, I was behind him, and after 30 minutes of him zooming in and out, he was in his orinal spot, just ahead of me!!


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Htay7500Htay7500 - 10/12/2007 4:31:07 PM
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where in b-more?


Bmw8terBmw8ter - 10/12/2007 5:19:17 PM
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I-10 between San Antonio and El Paso. I don't even see what the point is in having speed limits out there....there's nothing but desert all around you for most of that stretch; you're lucky to find a gas station. They supposedly increased the speed limit out there to 80mph.


SevorbeupstryIsBackSevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/12/2007 4:41:38 PM
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Is BMW for real? a turbocharged M-car?

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MaindrianPaceMaindrianPace - 10/12/2007 4:58:38 PM
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2002turbo wore M colours and a OBRUT badge... it is a necessary evil these days. A NA engine producing 600hp... then you're talking ferrari territory... just wouldnt work in a 5 series. Forced indcution is a value for money way of unleashing horses from an engine (guess thats why Audi and Merc have been relying upon it recently)


DaHarderDaHarder - 10/12/2007 5:34:11 PM
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Funny, I recall many stating that the Japanese resorted to turbo-charging because they didn't know how to properly design larger displacement engines, and now that BMW is doing it all's well...

Whatever!



bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 10/12/2007 10:06:16 PM
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what are you talking about, and why....that doesnt even make sense the v6 in the g37 is very much the size of a small v8, and produces the power of one, why would anyone say something like that about japanese engines, wow how illogical


supermotosupermoto - 10/12/2007 4:55:31 PM
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Waiting for the lexus fans to say that the IS-Fugly will blow this away.

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MaindrianPaceMaindrianPace - 10/12/2007 5:01:18 PM
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Anyone else notice the massive panel gap in the bonnet shut line? that says to me that they are squeezing in a lot under the bonnet - and when the car reaches production, it will likely have a better fitting bonnet, but one with a big bad ass bulge in it


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MaindrianPaceMaindrianPace - 10/12/2007 5:02:17 PM
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Plus,... can I just point out... this Engine... + M6 :)

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amazinBimmeramazinBimmer - 10/12/2007 5:17:45 PM
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by 'stab" you meant annihilate..didnt you?. please don't compare this icon with a vw... a fwd one that!(modified to be awd). You wil get laughed at the country club everytime.

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/13/2007 12:19:04 AM
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You must go to a pretty poor country club.

The one I belong to scoffs at BMW owners and calls them 'Big W's' (Big W**kers).

You only see Porsche, Bentley and Maserati in the heated car parks.



Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/13/2007 12:23:36 AM
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This one time a white M5 owner pulled up and we asked him why he didn't buy a Maserati instead.

He looked embarrased and said 'Yeah, that would be nice, but I couldn't quite stretch to one"

I replied: "Looks like it, every new-money douche has a M5"

Needless to say we never saw him again.



Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/13/2007 12:28:41 AM
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Come to think of it, it's quite sad how we at the club are so petty that we openly judge and discriminate against seemingly nice people just because their cars are lower on the prestige scale.

It does show what useless existences we really do live...

oh well, who cares? The golf's good.



Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/13/2007 12:30:00 AM
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Actually, the golf isn't actually THAT good....

I guess our membership fees go toward the upkeep of the heated car park elements.

Most important.



qballqball - 10/13/2007 8:35:04 AM
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Ha-ha......BMW chasing just little old VW's 580HP RS6.......playing catch up.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/13/2007 12:39:44 PMView My AgentSpace
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The RS6 is apparently underrated (it has more than 600hp--that's what I've heard), so BMW will have a hard time playing catch-up if they're really doing this to copy the RS6.

amazinBimmer, of course, when the RS6 comes out with a 600hp RS6, it's a piece of crap that can't do anything. But when BMW--the God of Gods--copies them shortly after with a twin-turbo M5, it's the best sedan ever to come into existence. And we don't even know if it exists yet! How do we know it's not the next-gen M5 (on the real next-gen platform) undergoing testing?



S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/13/2007 12:40:22 PMView My AgentSpace
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Aargh... when *AUDI* comes out with a 600hp RS6...


stonestone - 10/12/2007 7:31:50 PM
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While I am not completely convinced that there will be a turbo-charged M car, I can see the reason, the new M3 V8 and M5/6 V10 are both high strung, high revving engines but you need to be in the upper RPM range for the engines to shine. I don't think anyone would argue the fact that both engines could use a little more low end torque to satisfy the American market where you will rarely get to explore the 8K plus redline in the upper gears. Turbo charging is a quick fix for this as there will/should be gobs of torque with a couple of blowers, just look at the N54 in the 335. Many disagree with me, but the E39 M5 was just about perfect IMO, gobs of low end torque, great handling and a beautiful body.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/13/2007 12:41:41 PMView My AgentSpace
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The E39 was an amazing car. The E60... seems a bit much. I would still buy one, though. It just doesn't make sense for me; I'd want my sedan (winter car) to be AWD, so that gives me the S6 and RS4. I would want my convertible to be RWD.


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 10/12/2007 11:38:01 PMView My AgentSpace
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Those two vents left and right of the license plate are fake, obviously a photoshop job. Notice the drivers side so-called scoop actually cuts into the crease while the one on the left does not cros the crease. Looks like a fabricated story to me, although I wouldn't be surprised to see the M3/5/6 gain some power to keep up eith the competition and have an edge.

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/13/2007 12:25:38 AM
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Great detective work there....

*rolls eyes*



TheSailorTheSailor - 10/13/2007 7:07:10 AMView My AgentSpace
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I'm sorry... I love BMWs and all, but this thing looks RIDICULOUS!

Anyway, if this is a TT M5, it will probably be called the M5 CSL... But lets just wait and see... Maybe it is just a test bed for a new M-car (maybe a Z9)... Because there is no way they are going to make a car with a front spoiler as ugly as that one, and also, please notice how the bonnet doesn't quite fit!


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MaindrianPaceMaindrianPace - 10/13/2007 2:02:30 PM
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Coupe Sports Lightweitght, on a saloon, me thinks not


TheSailorTheSailor - 10/13/2007 3:38:13 PMView My AgentSpace
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LOL... Make sure you're right before you make such statements:

Coupé SUPER Leicht

But anyways, you're probably right



S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/13/2007 12:43:44 PMView My AgentSpace
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I hope the new M5 isn't turbocharged. Audi has been turbocharging their cars for years- and it's a signature. I love the new RS6. But I don't want BMW to do the same to the M5, simply because it doesn't need it. The "M" philosophy is not power, power, power, but weight, weight, weight. Or at least it should be! Why don't they just lower the weight of the current model and keep the same engine?!

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/13/2007 12:45:51 PMView My AgentSpace
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Let me add: that is true engineering. It's what Audi did with the new A4 and TT, and they don't really need new engines. It's the little things like this that just make me think BMW is losing it. This car will be a rocket... but it won't be much fun. That's how I see it. I'd rather have an RS6, because it is unabashedly turbocharged and makes the most of it. This car seems like an afterthought... because it is!


TheSailorTheSailor - 10/13/2007 1:17:46 PMView My AgentSpace
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I think BMW will go V12 with the next M5/M6... OR they might make a larger V10, but they can't just strip weight. Unlike with the 3-series, the M5 is a luxury tourer which happens to go like a bat out of hell (like the RS6)... This also means that you need a certain level of luxury to get people to buy it. The only way to save weight (without having to make an entirely different car that looks like the 5-series with a new TÜV and EU-approval in order to make it street legal in europe) is to remove luxury items and fit alot of composite material... Like they did with the M3 CSL... You've probably never been close to a CSL, but I can tell you that though it is an AWESOME car when it comes to performance, it is like driving a Rallye car... Very unpleasant and incredibly loud!


amazinBimmeramazinBimmer - 10/13/2007 11:35:50 PM
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matthew.. club was 250K to get in. A bit more than yours I imagine.. thats what life is in the NE. and trust me.. the m5 gets the spot over the cheapo 911s drivne by fat bald middle aged wankers like you. no worries.

s4.. Mr. moron, the RS^ hasn not ben reeleased yet.. and if you think BMW woudl ever copy a VW given development cycles, you belong in the used car salesman league or Germanut. yeesh!


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/14/2007 12:25:45 AMView My AgentSpace
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I have a passing interest in your comments, for entertainment purposes.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/14/2007 12:26:17 AMView My AgentSpace
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BTW, who do you think the M5 is driven by? Hot young chicks? LOL. No, middle-aged @ssholes like you.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/14/2007 12:27:30 AMView My AgentSpace
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One more thing- how long do you think it takes BMW to bolt on a pair of turbochargers? People have known that the RS6 would be twin-turbocharged for at least a year now, so of course BMW is responding to it.


Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/14/2007 1:13:29 AM
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Nope, don't drive a 911. I have a McLaren F1 as a weekend car and a Aston Martin DB9 as my daily.

250K? Chump change.

And I don't have any fat bald people at my club...



S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/14/2007 1:24:00 PMView My AgentSpace
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Matthew, I'm on the list for the Veyron next year. Black/white two-tone. It will be beautiful. There are already ten in my area. Are you on there?


Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/14/2007 3:50:30 PM
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Nice, but I'm waiting on my Pur Sang.

There's already a space reserved for it at the club.



TheSailorTheSailor - 10/14/2007 4:12:51 PMView My AgentSpace
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Cheapos! I just put down a deposit for my own personalised 747! The roads are getting way to overcrowded today!


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/14/2007 11:04:36 PMView My AgentSpace
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Oh, puh-lease, the A380 and 787 are sitting in my hangar...


Jag_xfrJag_xfr - 10/14/2007 10:40:40 AM
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hideous looking car...

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2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 10/15/2007 2:03:25 PM
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I would NOT take any maserati over the M5. The maseratis are way overated. I would take a Jaguar XK type R over any maserati. The M5 is so much more of a street legal race car than a maserati. No BMW's at the country club, that is right! My grandpas country club is full of cadillacs! Lots of old people taking it slow. No porsches either!

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 10/16/2007 12:35:47 AM
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The new breed of Maserati's are NOT over-rated.

I'd have one just for the styling and the engine note.




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