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Test Drive: Is A Toyota Land Cruiser Really Worth $80K?
In the movie “Out of Africa,” Denys Finch-Hatton’s 1923 International Harvester stalls on an open savannah amidst a herd of seriously cranky water buffalo. After a few nervous minutes tinkering with the engine, Denys tells Karen Blixen (Meryl Streep) to manually crank the engine. It explodes to life, and they continue their illicit journey into cinematic history. Substitute a Canon DSLR for Blixen’s .416 Rigby, and in my mind, I’m there. As for the Harvester… what about an all-new 2008 Toyota Land Cruiser?

Sticking with the cinematic theme, the new Land Cruiser’s sheetmetal is still as tight and creaseless as a Hollywood actress’ Botox-pickled brow. Subtle fender bulges give way to doors as expansive and flat as the Serengeti itself. The big rig’s deadlights and turn signals are integrated into massive light clusters, flanking a supersized grille, sporting the now familiar Schick shtick. The sidelights’ silhouette now tapers sportingly; a single failed attempt to ameliorate the off-roader’s overall blockishness.
 

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CarbonBlueCarbonBlue - 12/14/2007 11:23:43 AM
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The answer is simple: no.

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pacotacololpacotacolol - 12/14/2007 3:58:35 PMView My AgentSpace
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no, unless you have money to lend your freinds


adamsaf723adamsaf723 - 12/15/2007 8:10:43 AM
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Seeing as the LX570 base price is 73,800, I don't think the Land Cruiser will even be tempted with the 80,000.

Land Cruisers are typically about 8k cheaper than the LX... so do the math...


silver1silver1 - 12/17/2007 9:46:11 AM
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"fastonekiller"

These are base prices for the 1-series, for a loaded one with options, your looking at over $40,000

Who actually buys a basic BMW with no options?
Come on now.....


markymarkmarkymark - 12/15/2007 12:21:17 PM
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Find me one company that is not trying to make a profit. Those are the companies that fail every year.

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RealitySmackRealitySmack - 12/14/2007 11:44:48 AM
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ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 12/14/2007 11:52:59 AM
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Not worth it. I don't know its off road capabilities, but for that money, there are other SUVs that are capable of off-roading that would offer better performance.

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HyundaiHyundai - 12/14/2007 12:30:05 PM
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"I don't know its off road capabilities, but... there are other SUVs that are capable of off-roading that would offer better performance."

Huh?


w209w114w209w114 - 12/14/2007 12:30:01 PMView My AgentSpace
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JUGNUJUGNU - 12/14/2007 12:48:09 PMView My AgentSpace
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Worth every penny and who knows more than us (Who live in Asia/Arab countries).

JUGNU

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KZ258KZ258 - 12/14/2007 1:39:30 PM
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are you feeling ok?


M53RM53R - 12/14/2007 4:28:18 PMView My AgentSpace
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Its overpriced. You should go and sit in one. The whole interior is made from EXTREMELY cheap plastic, the engine is underpowered (270hp 4.7l V8, same as the old one here in the UAE) and it can win any ugliness contest. Toyota are ripping us off, but some people are blind enough to buy them!


vman1013vman1013 - 12/14/2007 5:19:24 PM
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I thought the article said the engine produced 381hp??


M53RM53R - 12/15/2007 4:24:04 AMView My AgentSpace
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Yes it does, in the US, but as JUGNU is talking about the middle east (which is where Im from), the LC comes with the 4.7l carry over from the old generation. Which is cr*p.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 12/15/2007 2:16:39 PM
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yeah the middle east...societies with incredibly refined taste. gold-plated cars anyone?


M53RM53R - 12/16/2007 8:58:20 AMView My AgentSpace
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Dont hate just because we're rich ;)


DaHarderDaHarder - 12/14/2007 1:01:31 PM
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This represents 'price gouging' at its worst.

Sure, it's a capable off-roader, and probably pretty well put together, but in NO Way Shape or Form is this an 80K Vehicle.

At best, it's a 50k SUV when fully loaded...

Not a Penny More.

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r15mohdr15mohd - 12/14/2007 1:25:54 PM
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well for $80k...what other vehicles are mentionable to handle the tasks a LC is capable of? Range Rover, HUMMER? do tell...

it's not jsut a simple no, it's a maybe...all depending on uses each individual has.



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PlanBPlanB - 12/14/2007 1:25:15 PM
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Umm, for $80K, point me in the direction of a Range Rover please.

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HyundaiHyundai - 12/15/2007 1:53:01 AM
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David Beckham, is that you?

Your wife has funny looking tatas.


EL34EL34 - 12/14/2007 1:26:44 PM
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For $80,000 dollars you get to search for a parking place and drive a log wagon around town.

What a joy :)

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supermotosupermoto - 12/14/2007 2:10:32 PM
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For $80k....Cayenne, X5, Range Rover, anything else!

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0to600to60 - 12/14/2007 3:08:02 PM
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I wouldnt pay 80k for a Land Rover or a X5... Even the Cayenne is pushing it at 80k


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 12/15/2007 2:17:57 PM
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"I wouldnt pay 80k for a Land Rover or a X5"

good thing you don't have to make that decision...


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 12/14/2007 2:30:05 PM
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DaHarderDaHarder - 12/14/2007 2:32:56 PM
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Well Put!


BillBill - 12/14/2007 2:40:23 PM
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I like the design of the new Landcruiser, but my problem is simple.

Toyota has OVERPRICED what was once an affordable and capable offroader by turning it into an expensive and probably less capable (more comfort-oriented suspension) offroading luxury car.

The Landcruiser was never a luxury car. Why Toyota, why?

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Htay7500Htay7500 - 12/14/2007 6:05:40 PM
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the 80 series and previous gens.in the US were also available in stripped down versions, but more ppl kept buying them in upscale trims. so toyota sends LCs in higher trims. plus I think the 4runner is a much better deal. the last LC was more interesting imo.


no this isn't worth 80k and I'd like to see them bring back the stripped versions and maybe a diesel. I love the land cruiser but toyota is moving in a diff direction here. I also like the gl320 which is also a great deal.


CarboyCarboy - 12/14/2007 2:58:00 PMView My AgentSpace
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0to600to60 - 12/14/2007 3:11:05 PM
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Well its at least safe to say that if you buy it right when it comes out, you will be able to have the current body style for at least 10 yrs considering it took them that long to redesign the ugly thing! And Please someone tell them to redesign that hideous SC430!

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DaHarderDaHarder - 12/14/2007 11:01:56 PM
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The SCxxx redesign was such a dismal failure that Lexus might be best to simply retire the moniker, and call its replacement something entirely different.


speedmasterspeedmaster - 12/14/2007 3:44:45 PMView My AgentSpace
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The Range Rover and LR3 have better specs offroad.
There is simply no denying the facts:
LRs have better -
approach angles, departure angles, breakover angles, better wading depth,
higher ground clearance. Better crawl ratio.

Specs ALONE, the LR owns the LC.

Don't believe me? Look at the specs on Toyota's website.

Toyota's only claim to fame is reliability. I question that now in light of the numerous
Tundra recalls and problems (Today they just announced a recall on the transmission).

The interior is worst than the previous one. Don't believe me? The door handle are cheap hollow plastic.
Same fit and finisg as a Corolla. People bitch that Corvettes have Cobalt trim and bits, Well, this has Corolla and Yaris trims and bits.
The wood is fake on this 80K truck.



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M53RM53R - 12/14/2007 4:26:23 PMView My AgentSpace
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Im glad someone else other than me noticed the cheap door handles made of black plastic which cracks! But thats not the only cheap thing about the interior, the whole centre console is made from the same cheap plastic! The car is a rip off!


AgentOrangeAgentOrange - 12/14/2007 3:51:54 PMView My AgentSpace
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1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 12/14/2007 4:18:27 PM
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This article is TTAC at its worst. First off, there is no reason to spend $80K on this vehicle. If you want all the bells and whistles, fine, pony up, but then dont complain. And if the dealer has a $5K markup, then that is only because they are flying out the door. Check another dealer. I mean really. It's like they went out of their way to spend as much as possible, so they could include it in their review.

And let's talk mileage. Conveniently they only reported the lowest (city mileage) with no context. Context like, what does the RR get, what does the LC get on highway, and how does the LC achieve massively more power while achieving the same mpg ratings as last year.

TTAC is more of a hater site the autospies.

This vehicle is without peer. Most of the world will snap them up in droves. The only thing is, in the US, only diehard LC fans will buy it, as most who want it will opt for its Lexus twin. Toyota knows this, and appears to have priced the LC accordingly. They only plan on selling a few, but the buyers of these select few will know they have something special.

Y'all just keep whining and moaning while the juggernaut rolls on.

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JWalkerLegrandeJWalkerLegrande - 12/14/2007 4:20:05 PM
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HELL NO

Second opinion: Where ? In Germany the cost of the Prado is more than $80k. The LC costs 70,000 euros, which is roughly $100K, so the US pricing looks like a steal.

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M53RM53R - 12/14/2007 4:24:29 PMView My AgentSpace
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"The new LC doesnt even deserve to be called new. Its the same friggin' thing, with 10 year old stlying, and costs way more at least here in the UAE. It actually costs almost as much as an escalade. (250k dhs for the LC, 270k dhs for the Escalade) The interior is the biggest disapointment. Its worse than the old one, and Im not even kidding. Cheap plastic EVERYWHERE like the centre console, door knobs etc..

And thats not it! The engine is the same from the old generation! 4.7l V8 270hp (What age are they living in?!) and even though this may be only here in the UAE, its still a very stupid move, especially at this kind of price! The more I see of those on the street, the more I realise how many Toyota badge wh*r*s we have here!"

Thats my reply to another thread.


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StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 12/14/2007 4:45:14 PM
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5.7-liter DOHC 32-valve EFI V8 with dual independent VVT-i
381 hp @ 5600 rpm;
401 lb.-ft. @ 3600 rpm

Who said 4.7?

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M53RM53R - 12/15/2007 4:25:28 AMView My AgentSpace
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READ! I said (in the UAE)! And people still buy them here! (UAE)


BigShow50BigShow50 - 12/14/2007 4:56:04 PM
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80K?!?!?...Maybe on time share programs...

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 12/14/2007 5:16:28 PMView My AgentSpace
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No, and that's why it's priced at $63,000 and not $80,000. This is not a Range Rover competitor.

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richard112360richard112360 - 12/14/2007 5:17:52 PM
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It's a damn good, well engineered reliable off road vehicle but definitely not worth $80K. Well Consumer Reports Magazine says the Mercedes B. ML, GL C, E, S class aren't really worth a dime as they are completely unreliable. The Range Rover built by Land Rover is a complete piece of crap. The BMW X5 is unreliable same goes for the VW Toureg. So I guess that leaves the Lexus LX570 and the Toyota LC.

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BillBill - 12/14/2007 5:22:17 PM
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Dumbest post of the month. Congrats.


KillBotKillBot - 12/14/2007 5:59:34 PM
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Not that I would but this vehicle, but why is it MORE expensive than is sister wearing Lexus attire?

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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 12/14/2007 6:00:46 PM
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If VW can't make a seller out of the Touareg v10 TDI with 2x the power, and 10x the capabilities, at $60k.....there's no way in hell anyone is going to pay $80k for a Toyota Land Cruiser.

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Bmw8terBmw8ter - 12/14/2007 6:03:01 PM
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2x the power is obviously a slight overexaggeration, but you get my point.


KillBotKillBot - 12/14/2007 6:03:57 PM
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this vehicle is listed at a base price of $62k on
Toyota's web site.

http://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/index.html

Where did you come up with $80k?
Is it a Limited Edition?

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KillBotKillBot - 12/14/2007 6:04:42 PM
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$63k my mistake


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EnvyofyouRS5EnvyofyouRS5 - 12/14/2007 6:08:46 PM
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The currency and Product placement price all over the world is highly increased amongst nations all over the world, compared to the united states, an example of that being in the third world this car would cost double the price of 80 thousand, This car would retail in brazil for at least 170,000 Dollars. So as far as price goes, 80 G's is no consideration as to the Benifits of having a Vehicle, So the real question is are the capabilities of any SUV including the Toyota Worth 80 G's when the Hummer is only 30 G's more expensive.

Jaime Perez.

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rconn14rconn14 - 12/14/2007 9:51:01 PM
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give me a touareg V10 TDI for that price

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huu76huu76 - 12/14/2007 11:08:27 PM
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Only no to the badge whores. Simply switch the emblem and suddenly it'll be worth it. Is a Q7 worth it when you can get the same vehicle for 30% less? All VW did was call it a Touraeg?

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enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 12/15/2007 2:20:44 PM
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"Only no to the badge whores. Simply switch the emblem and suddenly it'll be worth it."

couldn't have said it better huu. just switch from toyota to lexus logo and...voila! it's $12,000 more!


Bmw8terBmw8ter - 12/15/2007 9:58:34 AM
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The LX package and sales tax would put you right up there near $80k.

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StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 12/15/2007 3:38:50 AM
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How old is a Toureg, who would compare a Tourag? Toyota never has to even advertise one. LandCruiser's been out for like 80 yrs, there's a limit to hating but...Any part of the world someone will know what a Landcruiser is.

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Jag_xfrJag_xfr - 12/15/2007 6:34:52 AM
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Quite simply no way I would go near a Toyota! If I wanted the best 4x4 I would buy a Range rover, but if I wanted the best car it would have to be the new Jaguar XF Supercharged for this money!!!!

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JUGNUJUGNU - 12/15/2007 12:33:16 PMView My AgentSpace
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M53R Stop it. First go and learn fully about the all new Land Cruiser.

The new Land Crusier is available in 4 engines, 3 petrol plus 1 Diesel here in Middle East.

GXR V6 4.0

GXR V8 4.7 (yes previous VXR 4.7 V8 is changed to GXR 4.7 V8 in order for the 5.7 V8 to wear the VXR badge)

VXR V8 5.7

(an all new 4.5 V6 Diesel and the the 4.5 I6 petrol engine is discontineud).

and do u know there is a huge waiting list for the all new Land Cruiser. People loved and accepted it so well. I see so many everyday.

My freind recieved his a few days ago, a white GXR 4.7 V8 with beige interior and it's clearly a big improvment over the last. It costs him Dirhams 220K.

U r just a toyota hater and as usual bashing it.

JUGNU

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M53RM53R - 12/16/2007 9:01:23 AMView My AgentSpace
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Nope, it does NOT come with the 5.7l V8 in here.

Well when I said 250k, it was info based from the dealer.

I love hating toyota, but I hate how stupid some people are to buy such a thing. :)


M53RM53R - 12/16/2007 9:03:59 AMView My AgentSpace
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"Responsive Power & Performance

The new Land Cruiser is available with three responsive engines which have been developed to deliver the optimum combination of performance, driving pleasure, and low emissions.

4.7 litre V8 Petrol Engine

Compact yet remarkably powerful, the 4.7 litre V8's VVT-i electronic ignition and variable induction systems deliver excellent low-end torque and smooth acceleration, together with class-leading fuel efficiency and reduced emissions.

4.5 litre V8 Diesel Engine

Combining smoother engine rotation with Toyota's first DC motor twin VN (Variable Nozzle) turbo and common-rail fuel injection, the newly developed 4.5L V8 diesel engine delivers impressive power whilst reducing fuel consumption and emissions.

4.0L V6 Petrol Engine

Providing responsive acceleration and satisfying top-end power with increased fuel efficiency and decreased emissions, the new 4.0 litre V6 engine features VVT-i, and produces excellent power at all rpms and in all driving situations."

Source: www.toyotauae.com

go to models, land cruiser, and scroll down the info sheet.



M53RM53R - 12/16/2007 9:09:16 AMView My AgentSpace
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Sorry for the tripple post.
More proof: http://213.42.27.171/resources/en-GB/brochure_175eef8d-1db3-4645-9e69-611468669733.pdf

Go to page 7, and zoom in. :)


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 12/15/2007 2:14:33 PM
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no. for $80k you'd have to be nuts to take a toyota over the GORGEOUS range rover. that's why the range rover outsells the LC by about 5 times.

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huu76huu76 - 12/15/2007 3:08:37 PM
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Unlike the Range Rover, the Landcruiser has never seen a service shop before. The previous Landcruiser was also indestructable, the same can't be said about Rover.

I believe the LX and Sequioa are twins. Perhaps the Landcruiser is a variant now.
I've been arguing with you long enough that you should know I wouldn't care if they call it a Lexus or Toyota, on most vehicles I actually prefer the Toyota name. I'll take Altezza over IS anyday.

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dbs600olddbs600old - 12/16/2007 12:39:10 AM
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HAS ANYONE NOTICED THAT THE LX 570 PRICING LEAK POST HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN??? WHERE DID IT GO???

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dbs600olddbs600old - 12/16/2007 2:52:43 AM
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thanks!


farabira1farabira1 - 12/16/2007 9:15:23 AM
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I don't think that the Land Cruiser will cost 80 grand, probably more like 65 grand.

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JUGNUJUGNU - 12/16/2007 11:21:02 AMView My AgentSpace
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Just go and visit Futtaim Toyota today and u'll know.

5.7 V8 badged as V8 VXR is available.

JUGNU

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LexusLionLexusLion - 12/17/2007 4:15:55 PM
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It's a Toyota, babee!

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TominNHTominNH - 12/17/2007 5:40:47 PM
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I wouldnt pay $80K for any vehicle period!!!!
( well, maybe for a new Jag XK...... :-)~~

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