The Whole Picture: Are There Better Green Choices Than The Prius?

Hmm this is another study that backs up the infamous "dust to dust" study about a year ago.

You have to look at the total picture for environmental impact not just the time you own it.

— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2007 10:04:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I doubt a large percentage buy it for the "green" aspect, most buy it for savings and to make a statement of some sort.

But buy owning many do not hesitate to toss out the "green" card as a factor since it is synonymous. After some people need all of the justification they can get.

— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2007 10:35:57 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Are companies really so envious, that they have to use the Toyota Prius as a benchmark in their "Environmentally Friendly" rating systems? I mean come on!!

— Bmw8ter (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2007 10:21:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Next topic: "Why does agent009 feel a need to post every remotely negative Toyota/Lexus story?"

— answer (View Profile)

Posted on 9/28/2007 11:22:17 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

It takes into account raw materials. Well, the Prius is already at a disadvantage because it's about 2x the size of an Aygo (1800 vs 2900lbs curb weight).

Doesn't add up though. The C02 is negligable, 104 vs 109g/km. However, the Aygo's 1.0L gas eats up 4.6L/100km while the Prius' 1.5L engine only needs 4.3L according to the www.toyota.co.uk
So, since both have nearly identical emissions and oil requirements, this test is slanted towards raw materials required per unit made.

009,
Do some research and get enlightened. The LS600hL, being heavier, having larger displacement, is bigger overall, faster and runs on gasoline is still cleaner than the E320 Bluetec.
The 535d is so clean on of my past links states it's 2.5x dirtier than a Prius. Impressive.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2007 1:37:50 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

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— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2007 3:18:58 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

"...overall environmental footprint (including raw materials, production and end-of-life costs - based on their length, width and weight)" is virtually a RED HERRING, dragged up to diss the superior overall package that the Prius represents.

we all know what a FARCE the cspan hatchet job was, claiming the tank of a Hummer was "greener!" now they try to compare the prius with "city cars" with only a fraction of the size and carrying capacity.

heck, why not compare the Prius to a moped? NO QUESTION those are FAR greener! and of course, plain ole bicycles are cleaner yet!

LOL! the length some will go to, just to diss the prius! whines of desparation???

— XYZZ (View Profile)

Posted on 9/29/2007 7:43:41 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Correction, the link I mentioned states the 535d is 3.5x dirtier than a Prius.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 10/2/2007 1:25:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1