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This Month Poll: Will You Consider Buying Diesel Vehicle?
"We will make the diesel engine as clean as a gasoline engine," the chairman of DaimlerChrysler, Dieter Zetsche, said. "We are well on the way to giving CO2 emissions the priority needed" – said at his press conference at this years IAA Dieter Zetsche, the chairman of DaimlerChrysler.

Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Volkswagen plan to sell new diesel cars in the United States in the coming year - betting that diesel will become the chief alternative to the hybrid gasoline-electric engines popularized by Toyota and other Japanese carmakers.

Autospies.com reports that BMW is already running print ads of its diesels even though we won't be able to buy them until late 2008.

Today, fewer than 3 percent of passenger vehicles in the United States are diesel, compared to more than 30 percent in Europe. In 2006, more than half of all new cars sold in Europe were diesels. In Britain, BMW said it increased the diesel share of its cars from 7 percent to 70 percent in three years.

But the Europeans are not the only ones pushing it. General Motors and Ford plan to sell more pickups with diesel engines, and GM will produce a new diesel engine at a plant near Buffalo, New York.

"Pickups will be one wedge to bring diesel back into the U.S., while the European carmakers will be the other," said Gregg Sherrill, the chief executive of Tenneco, an auto-parts company that supplies exhaust systems to U.S., European and Japanese manufacturers.

Diesels are known for getting extra mileage out of every gallon of fuel. They offer better torque than many gasoline engines. And their price differential over gasoline models generally is much smaller than that for hybrids. Now diesels are even cleaner than hybrids.

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AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 10/1/2007 12:07:40 PM
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Absolutely.
I definitely will buy a diesel powered SUV.


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EnnNorakEnnNorak - 10/2/2007 9:16:52 AM
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I just had 2 coils over plug quit on me in as many weeks. for that reason alone I should buy a diesel but the main reason is to get long range between fill-ups on long-distance drives. I also like the high torque of diesels for driving in the mountains.


KingerKinger - 10/1/2007 12:17:09 PM
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I already run a diesel vehicle and will more than likely replace it with another diesel when it comes time to change.

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Threepoint1415926Threepoint1415926 - 10/1/2007 6:15:48 PM
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I'm with you. I've always had a diesel, always will. Just wish there were more choices.


BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 10/1/2007 12:18:46 PMView My AgentSpace
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evenstevenevensteven - 10/1/2007 12:46:46 PM
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Consider it? Absolutely. In fact I am hoping the new Audi will bring over the 3.0 TDI for the A5.......S5 performance numbers with diesel MPG. The best of all worlds.

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investor27investor27 - 10/1/2007 12:57:52 PM
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I will definitely get one, the BMW 123D if it ever comes. Gas prices is getting way out of hand. And with diesels engines running cleaner now, it's a no-brainer.

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ICONICON - 10/1/2007 1:48:43 PM
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Am definitely considering one...hopefully they will be here within the next few months. I am ready to make a decision. (or X6 hybrid?)

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enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 10/1/2007 2:30:20 PM
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absolutely!

incredible fuel economy with substantial power.


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autoproautopro - 10/1/2007 2:36:29 PMView My AgentSpace
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I wouldn't consider one because its too hard to find diesel gas stations.Where I live when we have a hurricane its hard to find any fuel much less having to find diesel.

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SpectatorSpectator - 10/1/2007 3:30:12 PM
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Almost finished saving money for my next purchase and the nextgen diesels are number one on my list.

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MonkMonk - 10/1/2007 3:59:35 PMView My AgentSpace
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GL320 CDI for me

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johannasjohannas - 10/1/2007 4:13:49 PM
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Htay7500Htay7500 - 10/1/2007 4:45:15 PM
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if there is a accord diesel, count me in.

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jt716jt716 - 10/1/2007 6:10:49 PMView My AgentSpace
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bokuchinbokuchin - 10/1/2007 11:17:10 PM
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I think that diesels should be reserved for SUVs and other large heavy duty cars and trucks. I'm not against diesels and would definately get one if they can bring a bluetec to CA, but not in a sedan. just doen't seem right somehow.

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 10/2/2007 12:01:37 AMView My AgentSpace
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Definitely. I'm going to try to push the E320 Bluetec on my wife. I'm also hoping we get the 335d.

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huu76huu76 - 10/2/2007 12:49:19 AM
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Fewer than 3% of cars are diesel and yet diesel costs just as much as gasoline. Diesel should easily double in price if it ever hits 5% of vehicles.

Anyone care to prove that diesels are cleaner than hybrids? Please show a car that is in production and for sale, not something planned 5 years from now when hybrids are even cleaner.


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AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 10/2/2007 7:43:19 AM
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It is only here in the US where diesel cost more than petrol, everywhere else seems to be the opposite.


huu76huu76 - 10/2/2007 12:49:19 AM
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Fewer than 3% of cars are diesel and yet diesel costs just as much as gasoline. Diesel should easily double in price if it ever hits 5% of vehicles.

Anyone care to prove that diesels are cleaner than hybrids? Please show a car that is in production and for sale, not something planned 5 years from now when hybrids are even cleaner.


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SpectatorSpectator - 10/5/2007 1:15:02 PM
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I'm sorry to say huu76 that this is an incorrect statment. Lets go back to the glory day of Economics 101. The saying for any business or economy is simple "Supply and demand". As demand increases, so must the supply. In this case, lets take diesel vehicles. More people want them, the more will be made. At an initial stage supply will outpace demand, this usually reverses quite quickly due to word of mouth and then you find youself with more demand than supply at hand. This is a good thing. It establishes the market.

The second factor of this supply and demand is that as the amount of vehicles using diesel increases the amount of diesel produced or available within the nation increases. You may think this would increase the cost of the fuel, however it has the opposite effect. Think of it this way when every kid collected baseball cards the rare cards cost alot of money whereas the common everyday player cost almost nothing. Tops and Donruss weren't losing money on this type of economics. On the contrary they were making money. Same in the fuel industry.

The oil companies will make larger profits if more people buy their product, right? This is then translated into lower costs at the pump to entice customers to continue to purchase their product (remember the Computer wars in the 90's where everyone was undercutting everyone else to make the deal). Supply and demand will reach a nice parody and the sine wave measuring this will move from a mountain and trench model to an increasing ripple model.

And as for the cleaner issue. You are correct. As it pertains to particulte matter. The rest however, the new diesels knock the ball out of the park on passing both the EU's emission standars as well as the extremly strict US 2 standards.

Besides we are not really interested in talking about how clean vehicles are, no matter how much we think this is about hugging trees. What we are all really concerned with is MPG and how far can I stretch my dollar. In which case diesel works quite well.



ozibalaozibala - 10/2/2007 3:34:48 AM
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Yes, I am in the combustion research and I know diesel engines are far more advance than petrol engine. And my fellow scientists need more supports. It is very very hard to get diesel engines up to this stage where you can have better efficiency, lower emission, more power and much higher torque than the equivalent petrol engine. Very very encouraging.

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autoproautopro - 10/9/2007 7:28:31 PMView My AgentSpace
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I think a diesel hybrid is the future.We just need more infrastructure on diesel stations.

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sequoyah101sequoyah101 - 5/17/2008 2:46:51 PM
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1. Would buy one today if it were available...literally THIS DAY with cash in hand. I was ready to buy a new A4 until I found out the diesels are coming...I certainly hope.
2. The quest for performance has gotten out of hand. e.g. Audi 3.0 in an A4..what is wrong with their 2.0 diesel in an A4? We need balanced economy and performance. My Lucerne Northstar simply didn't need a lower speed final drive than the 3.8 V6 and it needs a 6 speed transmission.
3. I could care less about squeezing out the next 10% reduction in emissions...it is low enough now.
4. New diesel refining capacity is needed as well as real support of development of alternative diesl sources.
5. A straight diesel based fuel economy with fit-for-purpose engines would go a long way to dramatically reducing oil imports.


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