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Uh oh!! The ZR-1 did what!!
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Uh oh!! The ZR-1 did what!!
Ripping the ‘Ring: Stock ZR1 Laps Nürburgring in 7:26.4
I know many people have been very interested in how fast the ZR1 would be at the Ring…
Most car enthusiasts are quite familiar with the Nürburgring. Built in the 1920’s near Cologne, Germany, “the Ring” is considered to be the toughest and most challenging race track in the world.
Over the last two weeks, we have been doing our final tuning and testing there before we start ZR1 production cars. This morning (Friday June 27), General Motors development engineer Jim Mero drove the Corvette ZR1 around the Nürburgring in a time of 7:26.4.
Jim commented after the lap that conditions were good except for a strong headwind down the main straight and that the lap was solid, but he felt there were a few places he could have gone faster.
The car was bone stock with the exception of the communications and safety equipment. The tires were production Michelin Pilot Sport 2’s. These tires have been developed specifically for the ZR1 and will have impressive wet traction and wear (tread wear rating = 220), in addition to excellent dry road holding. Chassis alignment and vehicle height were set to factory specs. Likewise, the engine calibrations were absolutely stock, emissions compliant and the car ran on pump (not racing) fuel. The vehicle was exactly like the cars that will be built in Bowling Green, Kentucky and sold around the world later this summer.
Despite posting one of the fastest times ever run by a production car, Nürburgring lap times were not an over-riding priority in the development of the ZR1. The truth is, if the only priority was speed at the ring, the car would not be very pleasant to drive on American roads. The ZR1 is an incredibly capable track machine, but unlike most ultra-high performance cars, it is very easy to live with on a daily basis.
The timed lap was run with a rolling start, a departure from our previous practice of standing starts. This is more aligned with current industry practice. The lap was electronically timed and confirmed with two hand-held stopwatches. An in-car video will be posted when the engineering team returns from Germany. Look for it the week of July 7!
7:26.4 - 168.07 km/h -- Corvette ZR1, 620 PS/1519 kg *General Motors development engineer Jim Mero
7:27.82 167.20 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng
7:28 -- 166.65 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, * company test driver Walther Roehrl
7:29 -- 164.68 km/h -- 2009 Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg, *company test driver Tochio Suzuki according to mfr.
7:31 --- 164.38 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:32 -- 164.07 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg
7:32 -- 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:32.18 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl
7:32.44 163.91 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma
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rallyss
- 6/27/2008 10:39:08 PM
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i cant wait for this car i saw one driving by the GM tech center i about shit my self.
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MercedesBenz00Z
- 6/27/2008 10:48:56 PM
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and I would sh!t on this car
sector
- 6/28/2008 12:07:00 PM
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nah, let the BenzOOOOZ vent his anger... German fanboys always act this way when they realize the overpriced POS they drive is more inferior than ever :)
MercedesBenz00Z
- 6/28/2008 4:00:16 PM
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Is it wrong to tell you the truth? Overpriced? That's something only the poor people would say...because they can't afford a German car :)
NARunner
- 6/28/2008 5:07:42 PM
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That's probably the 3rd or 4th time I've read your post and it has been related to how poor everyone is compared to you. If I may ask, Mr. Trump, what do you do for a living?
Need4Speed
- 6/30/2008 8:52:41 AM
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Deboosted 31 times!! Is that a record?
GTR35
- 6/30/2008 12:12:46 PM
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Sweet I just made it -32, felt great!
So Germany keeps loosing, this time to the Americans and if that's not enough they also lost to Spain and they lost good.
85bmw745i
- 6/30/2008 6:40:26 PM
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Dang benz you are in teh runnings with michael taylor/david989/houstoncutie for the most deboost on autospies
Carboy
- 6/27/2008 10:58:13 PM
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I hope it's true because I think I may have underestimated it.
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idriveslowandfast
- 6/27/2008 11:55:31 PM
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Its 100% true, unlike the unofficial test mule times we have been seeing from other makes.
A in car video will be released soon.
lenkun
- 6/27/2008 11:28:55 PM
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It's just a rumor right now. We'll have to wait for the official time to be released. If that time is true, then GM may finally have a car almost as fast as the LF-A and the new NSX.
Besides, prototype always goes a few seconds faster than a production vehicle because they are always twicked to the extreme at the expense of quality and reliability.
I'll believe after I see the Car & Driver, Road & Track, Motor Trend's results. And then see what Tiff and Jimmy have to say about it as well since they are the experts.
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idriveslowandfast
- 6/27/2008 11:49:34 PM
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Actually if anything is unofficial it is the LF-A time. Which was done with a non-production car.
This is what it says about the LF-A time:
"Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
idriveslowandfast
- 6/27/2008 11:51:30 PM
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Also the recent NSX time was done with a "test mule", not a production car.
And is was 11 seconds slower.
7:37* -- 162.28 km/h -- Honda NSX test mule, 550 PS * www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/nsx-laps-ring-unofficially-at-7-37/
idriveslowandfast
- 6/27/2008 11:54:29 PM
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You will enjoy the in car video, see what actually a production car can do.
"An in-car video will be posted when the engineering team returns from Germany. Look for it the week of July 7!"
idriveslowandfast
- 6/27/2008 11:56:29 PM
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This isn't a prototype.
CAN YOU READ????
100% bone stock.
truckmen
- 6/27/2008 11:45:52 PM
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Impressive! Numbers speak louder than bias.
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idriveslowandfast
- 6/27/2008 11:53:29 PM
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The car was 100% bone stock.
Time was electronically timed and confirmed with two hand-held stopwatches.
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pcar4evr
- 6/28/2008 9:46:30 AM
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GM should follow the "Black Hole" business model - contract until all that's left is a dense mass of great products and then explode with new products and new energy.
Won't happen
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85bmw745i
- 6/30/2008 1:35:22 AM
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Thats because GM takes the same car and makes multiple versions of it for buick pontian,cadillac, etc. of course they have more models with 30mpg, how many brands do they have? the cobalc is shared with pontiac, the aveo is a daewoo that will soon be shared with pontiac. the astra is from europe. most of their fuel efficient vehicles are derived from countries other than America except the cobalt/g5.
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85bmw745i
- 6/30/2008 1:39:17 AM
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who puts 100k miles in 5 years? it's a gimmick, why don't they do it for 10 years like hyundai. ok GM has more models with 30mpg because of how many brands and how many times they bagde engineer their cars. how many models does chevrolet have that gets over 30mpg? I can only think of 2, the cobalt and aveo. I'm sure there are be more but I can't think of them. It's not like GM is a mecca of engineering. To me they are a plain car company, nothing special except the vette, which has the performance but is cheaply made, and the G8 which I actually like. Cadillac is also doing well with the cts.
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idriveslowandfast
- 6/28/2008 2:21:23 AM
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Do all the little kiddies on here always deboost true statements?
I guess they can't handle the truth.
Oh well, their loss. :)
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Speedoholic
- 6/28/2008 3:33:41 AM
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7:24 -- Lexus LF-A -- ~552 PS/~1360 kg
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91z4me
- 6/28/2008 11:34:22 AM
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Preproduction car measured by a bystander w/ a stopwatch vs production car measured by 2 different electronic systems.
Hmm...which one should I believe?
ThierryHenry14
- 6/28/2008 9:48:16 AM
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Thats quite impressive. I absolutely have no interest in the Corvette, or most anything GM produces, but that is a heck of an impressive time...
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jackson63
- 6/29/2008 12:30:37 PM
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must have been ate up by to many gm cars
golfer38
- 6/28/2008 10:09:12 AM
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Fantastic! Could you imagine what this car would do if it was specifically tuned for the "ring"?
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theoptimisticpessimist
- 6/28/2008 1:30:06 PM
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The Corvette has for years has been a very underrated car and an terrific value. Good job GM.
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BJS470
- 6/28/2008 4:40:49 PM
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wow thats nuts...the vette has finally stepped up
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iamdabest1
- 6/28/2008 9:53:30 PM
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PROUD 2 BE AN AMERICAN!!
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holmstar
- 6/29/2008 11:42:41 PM
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I figured... I wonder how many of the other fanboys on here are employed by their brand.
farabira1
- 6/28/2008 11:45:37 PM
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Finally after many years a midengined supercar is coming from America that can trash Ferraris in the circuit and will still save you hundreds of thousands. Mid engined, Rear wheel drive, and a grunting pure American muscle V8 that churns out over 600 HP, what a beast. Hooray to the American dream, once more.
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91z4me
- 6/29/2008 10:32:45 AM
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The ZR1 is front engined, just like the base Corvette and Z06.
S30GTR
- 6/29/2008 2:27:48 AM
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looks like at 200k anything is possible today. try to beat this time under 100k. now that would be impressive.
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idriveslowandfast
- 6/29/2008 2:44:10 AM
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Can you people read up on your facts, before you open your mouth.
Corvette ZR1 will be $103,300, including the $850 destination charge.
85bmw745i
- 6/30/2008 1:43:00 AM
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even at that price the vette is one hell of a bargain. If all you care about is speed, and don't care about refinement, interior materials, fit and finish, squeaks and rattles etc, this is the car for you. I can't say anything but good job, although it's not something i would consider. It is built alot better than the viper though, especially the interior.
Threepoint1415926
- 6/30/2008 2:27:58 PM
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When these manufactures keep putting out numbers like this, it really makes me wonder what cars like the Pagani Zonda F Clubsport would be truly capable of if their testers dedicated as much ring time. It makes these ring times a bit irrelevant when a car like the ZR-1 or GT-R spends hours on end, every day for over a year year on the track while cars like the Zonda come, set their time in two days and leave.
Still, I have nothing but respect for these bargain supercars. Great job GM!
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smokinggun
- 6/30/2008 3:30:33 PM
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HA HA HA , GM rulz every class. The GT-R is a joke and looks like one too.
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infunf
- 6/30/2008 7:50:07 PM
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hmm, with that weight and horse power you'd figure it be faster.
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JTRacer
- 7/3/2008 3:50:35 PM
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Ya.. it's missing all those cheating electronics...
Eyecarehawaii
- 7/8/2008 4:13:40 AM
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"The timed lap was run with a rolling start, a departure from our previous practice of standing starts."
Unfortunately the times shown don't reflect whether the other cars were also timed using a rolling or standing start.
Nordschleife lap times
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
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