Want To Know What Most Next-Gen BMW's Will Look Like? Look VERY Closely At This Design Language

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Want To Know What Most Next-Gen BMW's Will Look Like? Look VERY Closely At This Design Language

If you think BMW has peaked or their best days are behind them then you would be wrong.

The Spies are predicting that over the next few years both BMW AND Lexus will widen their leads against their competitors.

Based on what we know about what's coming down the pike at BMW, you can look forward to some REALLY gorgeous models coming shortly.

BMW CS Concept Photo Gallery

They have just teased us with the X6.

Wait until you see the next 5, CS and 7-Series!

They are going to blow you away!

Sexy is coming back at BMW and in a big way on the next re-designs.

Want a glimpse into the future and want to see what they will look like?

Our sources tell us to look VERY closely at the design language of the CS Concept because virtually EVERYTHING BMW makes on the next cars, will be taking queues from its interior and exterior.

BMW CS Concept Photo Gallery

Want To Know What Most Next-Gen BMW's Will Look Like? Look VERY Closely At This Design Language

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autopro - 1/29/2008 1:46:16 PMView My AgentSpace

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Agent001 - 1/29/2008 1:48:04 PMView My AgentSpace

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Dude, if you don't like this car, there is NO hope for you!

Your car enthusiast license is revoked immediately! ;)

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ICON - 1/29/2008 2:06:14 PM

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autoho you are past the point of being ridiculous to being contemptible...

This car is simply stunning...every angle offers a visual delight...aggressive yet elegant. The steelwork on the side profile is excellent. The interior is a great extension of the exterior design...

If they can maintain this into production they will certainly move to another level in sales and market growth. Salivating here...bring it on BMW!

autopro - 1/29/2008 3:41:51 PMView My AgentSpace

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What ever happen to the German coined phrase"form follows fuction".This is nothing more than german bling bling.Sorry I like old school german styling.

autopro - 1/29/2008 4:01:40 PMView My AgentSpace

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Agent 001 I was selling porsche in 1985,and autocrossing a 944.Your not old enough to revoke my license.

EL34 - 1/29/2008 4:09:59 PM

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This concept car is amazing and when the real car comes out I will guarantee it will win many prestigious awards.

I know I want one ;-)

pacotacolol - 1/29/2008 4:11:35 PMView My AgentSpace

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atomicbri - 1/29/2008 8:10:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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Ok, I am not seeing any kind of Nissan GTR in the front of this. What styling que are you all referring to? Maybe you all can show me or explain....
I like this concept. The interior seats and all would never make production and I do like the look of the shape of this car.

rumnyc - 1/29/2008 10:38:47 PM

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^-- Your license is revoked for old age then ;)

Designer1 - 1/30/2008 1:28:09 AM

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None sense, this design is beautiful. I'm very happy to see the current 7 series be saved by this new design. I also see some of the Lexus LS lines in it, but further stretched and smoothed which make the lines look even better.

autopro - 1/30/2008 10:38:59 AMView My AgentSpace

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I think I set the record at -29.Boy you BMW fanboys sure are sensitive.

henbmw - 1/31/2008 8:14:34 PM

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Maybe nobody agrees with you...

GTR35 - 1/29/2008 2:31:41 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yes, they need this ASAP. Good bye Quattroporte.

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Porschinator - 1/30/2008 3:21:20 PM

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I love Muscle cars so I am digging the concept BMW's flanks!!! I love the rear as well.

The front end is where the problem is. The signature grill is too large and reveals too much of the radiator. The hood is distrating to the overall beauty of the car. Lastly the face look too squat and wide. Intersting look though.

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autopro - 1/31/2008 1:09:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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I'm at -34 can we go for -50 BMW is on the way out their days are numbered.

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RealitySmack - 1/29/2008 1:50:53 PM

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Silky Smooth...!

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cdoke - 1/29/2008 2:21:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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I noticed that too- the sort of Dracula-esque cloak-like seats.

All I can say is that the interior looks like it was designed by Daniel Leibeskind, whose designs are interesting in their novelty, but are throughly strange to be inside.

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cdoke - 1/29/2008 2:37:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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The Denver Art Museum is intesting- I know people who have become sick inside of it. There are no vertical walls. The most interesting place is at the top of the main staircase looking down. The stair case, for lack of a better way to put is sort of build around a cone which has its tip in the ground. So when you look down from the top it has a sort of spiraling inward feeling, but the balcony isn't vertical. Your mind however sort of tips it that way, so you don't feel like you are looking down, it almost feels like you are looking at about 60 degrees from horizontal. The whole effect is very tunnel like, but people are walking on the stairs, so it feels like you are not experiencing the save gravitational vector.

So essentially, it feels every once in a while like you have walked into an M.C. Escher lithograph.

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cdoke - 1/29/2008 2:45:37 PMView My AgentSpace

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I spelled his name wrong; it is Libeskind.

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KZ258 - 1/29/2008 1:53:10 PM

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i just hope BMW does something about the 3series's interior and adding a little bit more dramatic lines to the overall exterior wouldnt hurt

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MrGunFun - 1/29/2008 2:07:16 PMView My AgentSpace

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I say we should wait until the next 7 series comes out. This CS really shows how the next large sporty sedan should look like.

One last thing I really expect from BMW is that they should go back to the driver oriented cockpit design.

The current 3, 5 and 7 interiors should go away soon.

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AE86 - 1/30/2008 4:11:06 PM

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I miss the center consoles angled towards the driver. This puts the passenger in their place! Seriously, I miss the E30 and to some extent the E36 interiors.

Bangle had driven me away from the Roundel in recent years, but I quickly remembered I have never driven BMW's for the way they look!

PlanB - 1/29/2008 2:14:18 PM

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So it looks like future BMW's will be controlled by not one, but four iDrive knobs, interesting. But I like the styling, very bold and agressive, yet luxurious at the same time. I like the 4 door sports coupe look.

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sholemon - 1/29/2008 2:29:56 PMView My AgentSpace

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I love the look...i think the eyelids on the headlights are kinda stupid though.

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M35MT - 1/29/2008 2:42:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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That's what stands out the most to me. I first noticed this new trend (I guess its becoming a trend) on the Saturn Aura and the 08 C-Class. Looks good on the C, looks ok here.

The side profile looks awesome, streched out, reminds me of the Quattroporte.

This does look like those suspected photoshops from months back with the smushed-in pug face. Looks like the "shark-inspried" facia on the new Lancer.

bulldogz - 1/29/2008 2:30:55 PM

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I see nothing here that prevents them from releasing this in identical form, save for aspects of the interior. Unfortunately, the production version will most likely be watered down...

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/29/2008 5:56:54 PMView My AgentSpace

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You never know, with BMW. Look at the Z4 for reference!

_43LE - 1/29/2008 2:31:52 PM

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I like the overall idea, nice. The outrageous features/details I'm sure will be toned down for production. What's with the quad stacked tailpipes? have they take a page from the IS-F

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_43LE - 1/29/2008 2:39:40 PM

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Oops, my mistake, the quad look was a reflection.

EL34 - 1/29/2008 4:11:10 PM

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Will you please make up your mind?

_43LE - 1/29/2008 5:27:53 PM

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What's to make up? I said that I liked the direction, can you not read?

ILikeLambo - 1/30/2008 3:39:10 AM

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EL43 has a ferrari as an avatar and 34LE has a lambo as an avatar is it split personalities i see?

bigmotov - 1/29/2008 2:40:04 PM

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Side view is nice, but please stop with the angry fish look in the front. It's a nice "Aston BMW"....but since it's BMW's design, it must be original, right???

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Rsport - 1/29/2008 3:03:45 PM

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Good observation. I was beginning to think I was the only one who saw a whole lot of Aston Martin Rapide in this concept.

S4cabriofoxone - 1/29/2008 5:58:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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If there's one car design to take inspiration from...

1995e34 - 1/29/2008 2:43:06 PM

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interesting design exercise, but this needs some refinement. i really like the coupy sedan design, as well as the contours on the hood. but the dodge charger quarterpanels aren't too appealing.

it's a good CONCEPT.

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spiritfilled - 1/29/2008 2:43:28 PM

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I'm glad BMW chooses to go against the grain when it comes to their future concepts. I am so tired of people crying about the Bangle designs. I am glad BMW looks at what cars might look like in the future. Everyone wants cars to look predictable and all look the same, why? i don't see why a design shouldn't disturb you a bit, make you think, or ponder, make you visualize and give you a mental voyage almost every time you look at it. Who wants to look at a car once and say, it's nice, its elegant, it's a great step up from the car it replaces, end of story, hop in and drive, isn't this a website for people "enthused" about cars. If you want your predictable designs, go stand in a Ford dealership and bask in it's boredom, even Ford is starting to step up design wise to. Bangle has changed car designs forever, he has taken the adventurous, exotic, awe inspiring characteristics often associated with Ferraris and Lambos and such, and brought them to the mainstream, have you heard the guy talk about the designs of BMW, have you heard how the cars articulate the very intelligent perspective BMW pursues in their design language, when was the last time you saw an Audi designer on youtube chatting about their design concepts, or a Merc or Lexus designer, hardly, by the way all these other car companies make great looking cars, but cars should be something more at times, and that's what BMW sees, they don't always hit the nail on the head 100% of the time, but my do they come close. In the case of the X6 who cares about function, it can seat 4 people and it's a new segment of cars, think progressive, this is not the middle ages, i thought cars would have been flying by now, but i'll settle for what we got now.

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DaHarder - 1/29/2008 2:48:43 PM

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There's no doubt that this is a very handsome shape, and could easily serve as the basis for a very striking BMW 'design language', but...

Those headlights really need to be re-worked.

The 'clouded' upper portion of the headlight assembly seem very out-of-place, and have a 'cut-line' that meets up with no other 'character-line' found anywhere else on the vehicle's bodywork or grill... Very Amateuristic.

Additionally, very much like the current 5-Series, the headlights have all the visual appeal of a cheap whore wearing far too much eyeshadow, and a sleepy one at that!

Great design, as opposed to fleeting fashion, should never resort to such 'frivolously trendy' visual elements.

Note: These Are My Opinions, And I Stand By Them.

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LexSucks - 1/29/2008 2:52:00 PM

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Widen What lead?

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pchera01 - 1/29/2008 2:58:10 PM

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wow, they are getting good now

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ThierryHenry14 - 1/29/2008 2:58:14 PM

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Its a great design direction from BMW. I think that BMW's designs are very avant garde, and many people who hate BMWs do not understand that. I think BMW's designs under Bangle was too advance for its days. If its so ugly and bad, then why do others copy it?

I think BMW is usually leading the way in designs for the future, whereas companies like Audi designs very contemporary cars, which are also beautiful...

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Star - 1/29/2008 3:03:15 PM

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I agree 100 percent.

1995e34 - 1/29/2008 3:11:18 PM

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we'd continue to have boring 90's cars if it wasn't for bangle.

ThierryHenry14 - 1/29/2008 3:48:45 PM

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kaiser: I know exactly what you mean, and designs are not going to get a "wow" reaction from 100% of the people, but I think that for those who understand the designs, it becomes designs that you can live with, rather than ones you hate. thats my point, but I know what you are saying. I was very lukewarm with bangle's designs, but I have just come to accept it as a move in a different direction from the status quo, if you will.

chuck717 - 1/29/2008 3:13:21 PM

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The world is changing, what subprime has shown is that when prices get so ahead of the curve consumers don't turn off they just can't aford the prices anymore. Look for new generation cars to be lean and mean in MPG and bang for the buck. Their will always be the well healed who will want luxury cars but for the people who thought buying a million dollar home with arm mortages and now realize they were playing a fools game.
The same will and is happening with MFG like BMW and Lexus, leasing a car for $600 or more a month for the middle class is going away, the world will see more normal pricing of cars that are efficent and in touch, the luxury only MFG with cars 50k or more will see a major downturn in the future. Housing told us not evrybody can live a millioaires life and the same is true with auto's?

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pushrod27 - 1/29/2008 5:51:36 PM

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historically, ultra luxury items tend to be recession-proof. the very rich will continue to spend no matter how much the masses are suffering.

'entry-level' luxury products suffer during times like these. products that are more expensive than necessary for ordinary folks, but not quite good enough for the very rich. Items that middle class people buy to associate themselve with a more glamorous lifestyle.

Things like $200 Coach bags don't sell during a recession. $5,000 Louis Vuitton bags will sell regardless.

Following this logic, it is brands like Lexus and Infiniti that will suffer, not stalwarts like Mercedes-Benz and BMW. Typically, high end luxuries sell at a steady pace, regardless of surrounding economic conditions.

You are right, the middle class is dissapearing. In the future it's either ultra-cheap, or ultra high-end.

Chip - 1/29/2008 3:14:43 PM

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The CS concept is stunning from every angle.

We will have to wait to see how these design cues are incorporated when the new 7-series makes it debut. And that day cant come soon enough!!

To me, The new 7 is the most anticipated car of the year, cant wait.

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Whelan - 1/29/2008 3:18:26 PM

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Little touches here and there other than the big picture. The headlights have little BMW insignias cut out of the side of the projectors. VW already puts little VW logos on the headlamp bulb covers.

Aside from that, I like the all touch screen windows and locks. Very new with things like the iphone and my LG Venus. My only concern for that technology in a car in anyplace other than the HVAC and stereo would be the slip up of touching it with your elbow or by mistake.

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bmwfan1513 - 1/29/2008 3:42:13 PM

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BMW is by far the best car company!!! The pictures shown are awesome!!!

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EnvyofyouRS5 - 1/29/2008 3:45:50 PM

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Vorsprung dur technik!

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ThierryHenry14 - 1/29/2008 3:51:37 PM

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vorsprung durch technik

ThierryHenry14 - 1/29/2008 3:57:59 PM

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in german, through is durch, not dur. Advancement through technology.

autopro - 1/29/2008 3:57:03 PMView My AgentSpace

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There's no doudt the pressure from Lexus is pushing bmw to the limit.You've got to hand it to them though their not afraid to take chances,good or bad.They don't copy,but i still think only the side view looks good.

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Star - 1/29/2008 4:19:34 PM

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The pressure from Lexus??? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...

ICON - 1/29/2008 5:44:56 PM

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Pressure from Lexus? Yeah that ES is giving BMW fits. LMAO.

When are you Lexus fan boys going to realize that Lexus is not a competitor on the WORLD stage...US is their claim to fame-such as it is.

You are delusional, amusing, but delusional.

pushrod27 - 1/29/2008 5:56:51 PM

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'Pressure from Lexus' that's just precious. Nothing has changed. BMW innovates, Lexus imitates.

There is nothing that BMW can do to shake the feeling of Lexus enviously peeking over its shoulders.

tattedtwice - 1/29/2008 6:34:37 PM

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I had a good laugh at this one too. BMW has said time and time again that they don't get a lot of toyo....uh, lexus customers, and vice versa; there IS no 'pressure'. When you add in the fact that lexus is put on top thanks to two cars that are rebadged toyotas, it becomes clearer which is considered prestigous, and which is considered near-luxury.

BMW is the company that's benchmarked, imitated and flat-out copied by the competition. If there's any 'pressure' it's to stay far enough ahead to give the others something to copy next.

autopro - 1/29/2008 5:45:00 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yea! they have a 70year head start.LOOK OUT in the future!!!I don't care who buys soccer mons ,old ladies,old men,White,black,hispanic,Lexus takes everybody's money.BTW our parent company sells about 9million more cars than BMW.Toyota could buy them cash and just close them down.

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pushrod27 - 1/29/2008 5:53:14 PM

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'our' do you work for Toyota? Do they send you checks for what you do here?

Get a life.

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autopro - 1/29/2008 4:29:21 PMView My AgentSpace

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Yea Star BMW has been getting their ass kicked in the Largest car Market in the World.The USA seven years in a row.How many mor ass kickings do you want?

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528i - 1/29/2008 4:40:38 PMView My AgentSpace

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

Star - 1/29/2008 4:46:26 PM

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In US Lexus has the poseurs soccer moms to thank for buying their SUVs and helping their overall sales, but then again is just US, small or big is just one market. Globally where it really counts BMW smashes Lexus. Period.

S4cabriofoxone - 1/29/2008 6:03:44 PMView My AgentSpace

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And at the same time, the gap is getting much smaller. BMW could possibly overtake Lexus in the US this year, if they don't get the RX together. BMW moves much quicker with new engine technology and innovative design.

Chip - 1/29/2008 6:55:38 PM

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"BMW moves much quicker with new engine technology and innovative design."

Very well said S4.

Lexus development on the other hand moves extremely slow ....case in point.....The RX, GX, GS, SC are all so dated its laughable. And with the "New" A4, C-class, 335i, CTS, G35/37 out, who on earth who get an IS?

Chip - 1/29/2008 9:14:07 PM

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deboost me all you want Toyota fanboys, you wouldnt be doing so if all these comments werent true.

ILikeLambo - 1/30/2008 5:38:04 AM

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no matter how much you want it to be america is not the only place in the world to buy a car, and a car's success is based how it sells around the world

S4cabriofoxone - 1/31/2008 7:38:57 PMView My AgentSpace

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"S4: the worldwide gap is also closing. Lexus is the fastest growing luxo brand in europe."

Actually, you are incorrect. The gap is only widening.

BMW sales 2007:

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8119470

BMW grew 11% this year, worldwide. That is not including Mini and Rolls-Royce.

Dammit, I can't find a single link that has a Lexus model breakdown for worldwide 2007 sales. I saw American sales, and for Lexus, they rose less than BMW's worldwide growth, which makes BMW look even more impressive.

bigmotov - 1/29/2008 5:19:12 PM

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"In US Lexus has the poseurs soccer moms to thank for buying their SUVs and helping their overall sales, but then again is just US, small or big is just one market. Globally where it really counts BMW smashes Lexus. Period."

Wow, Star, where do I start?!?! It doesn't matter if you're a Lexus or BMW fan...your comment was just rediculously, ummmmm DUMB! First off, don't compare "globally" and profit with Toyota (Lexus). Second, why does it matter who's buying what? Third, I'm sure now that you've just made BMW aware of the fact that the U.S. is "just one market", they will abandon all their efforts in the current largest auto market.

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Star - 1/29/2008 7:41:53 PM

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BMW sells more than Lexus globally. Here is where it ends.

gasguzzler - 1/29/2008 5:25:59 PM

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This design is light years ahead of what the current 5, 6 & 7 series look like. They will sell many of these suckers, a lot more than the current gen for sure. Looks great!

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/29/2008 5:54:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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"If you think BMW has peaked or their best days are behind them then you would be wrong."

Absolutely, and this is what amazes me about BMW. Say what you will about their cars, but they are an amazing company. They balance profits, sales and prestige perfectly... their cars simply don't lose that BMW mystique, or the "magic feel."

The CS is just stunning. Absolutely beautiful.

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Chip - 1/29/2008 9:25:55 PM

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"The CS is just stunning. Absolutely beautiful."

Tell me about it S4, Its been my screensaver at work for a few months now, and people literally ask me all the time about the car, what is it, when does it come out, how much etc. It gets people talking more than my 335i coupe out in the parking garage ever did.

BMW has made a grand slam and the game hasnt even begun yet.

S4cabriofoxone - 1/29/2008 11:14:14 PMView My AgentSpace

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DO you have any idea if this will make production in non-7 Series form? I would rather not drive a luxobarge, but the idea of a "four-door coupe" appeals. I don't need a ton of space.

JRobUSC - 1/30/2008 7:15:44 AM

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BMW has already said they are building the concept CS as their range topping sedan.

farabira1 - 1/29/2008 6:27:25 PM

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If they can make their cars look like this then sure that will be great. But the other companies are also going to improve their design and will come up with stunning new designs as well. Audi's new design philosophy embodied in the R8 is striking and awesome at the least. Also if jaguar finally decides to make their cars look like the CXF then the jaguars will also look astounding, actually to me the CXF looks better than the BMW CS. So clearly to think that BMW will dominate the industry in terms of design is a bit overextrapolated statement. And also think about Lexus LFA design being boiled down to their smaller design.

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adamsaf723 - 1/29/2008 8:50:00 PM

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It's much nicer.
They are directly trying to hit that Lexus L-Finesse market hard.

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Chip - 1/29/2008 9:19:08 PM

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L-Finesse = We have no design language at all

L-Finesse = We copy the bigboys

L-Finesse = We rebadge Toyotas

L-Finesse = Our cars are for old people

L-Finesse = We sell cars to people who dont enjoy driving

ISF = Is So F*cked

Lets see if I can hit -20 before the nights over, deboost away.

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autopro - 2/1/2008 5:23:58 PMView My AgentSpace

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L-finese=luxury sedan leader in the US soon the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Denali - 1/29/2008 10:03:34 PM

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when i was at the services area today, i was speaking to a few BMW reps, just like them, im 100% the new 7 series body design wil be like the CS, the only arguement we had was about the grill, im guessing 6 series grill?...

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