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What company will beat BMW to market with a hydrogen model in 2008?
Fuel-cell vehicles are electric-powered. The electricity is generated by a fuel-cell stack in the car. The stack mixes hydrogen and oxygen in a process that produces electricity and emits water. Nearly all hydrogen is made from natural gas, abundant in North America.

Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles are seen as far-horizon solutions to U.S. dependence on oil. The feedback that Honda and GM would get from individual users could help tailor fuel-cell cars to mainstream tastes and thus speed development of the pollution-free vehicles. Honda (HMC) says it will put a sleek hydrogen fuel-cell sedan into limited production next year and also will sell a unique mass-market hybrid in the USA within two years, priced less than the $25,000 Civic hybrid. Read Article
What company will beat BMW to market with a hydrogen model in 2008?



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SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 5/11/2007 12:56:00 PM
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Beat BMW on hydrogen?

I guess no one has interest to do it. ^0^

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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 2:09:21 PM
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Mazda will be coming out with a hydrogen-rotary soon.

GM is also serious about fuel-cells.

VW/DCX was also seen experimenting with fuel-cells.


nvmenvme - 5/14/2007 12:46:02 AM
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BMW already has a hydrogen powered car on the market, it's just not fuel cell powered, and the delay for it to be mass produced and marketed, is the distribution net for hydrogen, obviously delayed because petrol companies want to sell as much fuel for as long as they can...


Will_Will_ - 5/11/2007 2:14:01 PM
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WRONG AS USUAL. LEXUS WILL HAVE A 1500HP SCGSLS1000hL-F THAT RUNS COMPLETELY ON AIR BY NEXT YEAR THAT WILL MAKE THE IS-F LOOK LIKE A FIAT PUNTO.

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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/12/2007 12:11:16 AM
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Let the SC-F roll out, it'll probably be a hydrogen-powered Bugatti Veyron competitor.

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w209w114w209w114 - 5/12/2007 1:43:42 AMView My AgentSpace
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LexusnumberoneFANATIC

If its a Bugatti Veyron competitor then it would not be Lexus SC priced, or better yet a Lexus at all

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/13/2007 1:25:33 PMView My AgentSpace
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Will, you are so right! LOL!

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GX470guyGX470guy - 5/13/2007 1:34:09 PM
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four wheels good, two wheels bad!!!!! Will is always right!!!! GO LEXUSGODS!!!

Mmm... Lexus...

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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 2:12:02 PM
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w209w114: Sorry, i messed up the SC with the LF-A. And oh, Lexus does have the capabilities.

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RupertRupert - 5/13/2007 6:54:32 PMView My AgentSpace
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Don't be stupid...LX900H! Handles better than an Ariel Atom.

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w209w114w209w114 - 5/11/2007 3:20:52 PMView My AgentSpace
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This post doesnt concern Lexus...

Ok so... The Hydrogen cars are infact the best solution to fossil fuels and electric vehicles (which need regular charging). Emmissions are actually water/vapor (drinkable i believe) I personally would not buy a hybrid for one, it uses gas just like every other car, its not cost efficient, and doesnt really help the earth all that much if at all. plain and simple.

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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 2:02:07 PM
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We will need a completely new infastructure, not to mention mass hydrogen-production facilities.
The entire cost of retooling and 're-wiring' is going to be phenomally high.
Commercial mass-production of hydrogen on a grandiose-scle (for our auto industry) is still years away from becoming a reality.

This is not to say that hydrogen tech does not have a future, in fact it does.



Designer1Designer1 - 5/11/2007 3:54:05 PM
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Yep, hydrogen fuel is the near future, later water, air maybe. I too don't believe in hybrid gas electric, since what they offer is way less for what they cost.

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LexusLexus - 5/11/2007 6:50:21 PM
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And the funny thing is that this car is from Japan.

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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 2:04:03 PM
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GM also has some exiting hydrogen-technologies for us in the store. Remmeber the Chevy Sequel?
The skateboard platform may be used for hydrogen-rental fleets very soon.


Matthew1Matthew1 - 5/12/2007 9:18:57 PM
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Honda wasn't first with VVT you EL34-obsessive!

It was Fiat in the 1970's.

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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 1:57:14 PM
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Fiat never had 4-valve engines in the '70s, atleast, they didn't bring them to the US.

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huu76huu76 - 5/12/2007 2:16:45 AM
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If Honda can accomplish the pure hydrogen car (no option to fill it with gasoline), it'll turn the auto and oil industry upside down.

For under $30,000 you get a car that will have big oil competing against natural gas suppliers for your $$$.

This lone car would topple Toyota and bankrupt the Europeans. I don't trust GM with a hydrogen powertrain, atleast not yet.

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 5/13/2007 3:25:36 AM
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Even though most of the major European manufacturers have had their own Hydrogen assessment vehicles for years?


kart1kart1 - 5/13/2007 12:24:45 PM
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No it won't topple any car manufacturer anytime soon. The reason is that to run a hydrogen car a person needs hydrogen. What I am trying to get at here is that there is a serious shortage of hydrogen fueling stations. So unless hydrogen stations are available as widely as gasoline there won't be any difference to any manufacturer.


kart1kart1 - 5/13/2007 12:41:49 PM
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One more thing: by the time hydrogen fueling stations are widely available other manufacturers will catch up to Honda and BMW.


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 5/13/2007 1:27:51 PMView My AgentSpace
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I've heard swishings of possible personal hydrogen fill-ups-- as in, you can buy them for you own home. How interesting that would be. huu76, I might agree with you for once. Go Honda!


LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 1:54:30 PM
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S4: We need a completely new infastructure, not to mention mass hydrogen-production facilities.
The entire cost of retooling and 're-wiring' is going to be phenomally high.

This is not to say that hydrogen tech does not have a future, in fact it does.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 5/13/2007 10:13:48 PM
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a hydrogen only car is not remotely possible because there are only a handful of stations in the entire country that pump liquid hydrogen. hydrogen only vehicles would require building a massive new infrastructure. that will take many years. a gas back-up is mandatory.


LexusLexus - 5/12/2007 9:09:05 PM
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If Honda succeed in making the most reliable hydrogen vechicles in the market, it will take over the auto industry for sure.

Honda, put some of that hydrogen to good use in the next NSX, and I would order one please. Imagine the waiting lists for this hydrogen vechicles.

The Japanese auto industry is taking over the world's auto industry for sure, if the trend continue.

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LexusNumberOne4everLexusNumberOne4ever - 5/13/2007 1:58:38 PM
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Mazda will also be coming out with a hydrogen-rotary engine next year.


Bmw8terBmw8ter - 5/13/2007 3:57:27 PM
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Screw the whole hydrogen fuel cell thing. By the time they start mass producing hydrogen powered cars, we will have already discovered how to extract crude from shale and the U.S. and Canada will become the largest exporters of oil, in the world, and we'll change the currency to American Dinars and Canadian Dinars and the rest of the world's currency will be complete rubbish!!!! HAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! World Domination...I say!!!!

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