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Which Is The Better Car? 2008 BMW 135i vs. 335i Review

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Which Is The Better Car? 2008 BMW 135i vs. 335i Review

After testing BMW 135i and 335i coupes back-to-back, I can reveal that there are only two good reasons to purchase the smaller, cheaper car.

Either you need a track day machine or you're an idiot. Otherwise, spend the extra bucks and buy the 335i coupe. The 335i coupe is more attractive, more enjoyable to drive, holds its value better and offers far more real road usability than the 135i.

If BMW had made the 135i as a lightweight, no-frills, Bahn-burning turbo rocket ship, they would have created a truly unique, desirable automobile. But they didn't. Read Article

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KZ258 - 4/21/2008 2:52:47 PM

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6gs also means nothing to most other folks as well

335i or the G37 over the 135i

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carchick - 4/21/2008 8:02:03 PM

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I agree with dugit! I think that especially now people are so price sensitive that the 135 might be more attractive..

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EI34 - 4/21/2008 10:04:45 PM

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I think the 135 is super cute. ;-)

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Ironman273 - 4/22/2008 11:05:46 AM

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I got to drive the 135 and the G37 back to back and I gotta say the 135 has better rear seat room, better trunk space and is a better driving car. Most of the G37s ponies are available way up in the rev range, making the car seem heavy and lethargic.

The 135 is aimed at a younger audience that wants to buy a car and customize it, like what Mini is doing. You're going to start seeing a lot of accessories available for the 1-series as well as a large aftermarket selection.

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Htay7500 - 4/21/2008 2:26:08 PM

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"Either you need a track day machine or you're an idiot."

I would take it to the track. but some here would rather buy it for the (eek) badge.

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lewishamiltonpimp - 4/21/2008 2:38:04 PM

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Me and my wife are on our 5th silver 3 series. She loves em. I drove the 135 since we will be looking at #6 in a few months. It's an awesome performer but impractical. The rear leg room is minimal and I have an 11 year old. No way.

She'll be replacing the 335 with another one - a 2009 facelift. TiAg naturally.

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SenSpeed - 4/21/2008 5:29:31 PM

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not to mention the 135 is so fugly looking

M53R - 4/21/2008 2:46:35 PMView My AgentSpace

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BMW made the 135i limited for a reason! But it's still the better performance car, and it's smaller which means its easier to park ..etc.

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0to60 - 4/21/2008 7:11:48 PM

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Is the 3 series that hard to park!?!

M53R - 4/22/2008 3:42:57 AMView My AgentSpace

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Ofcourse not, but the 1 series is smaller and would fit anywhere.

SHOWTIME - 4/21/2008 2:47:04 PM

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Agent009, I completely agree with you. I could understant if the weight difference was 500lbs resulting in much higher acceleration, slalom, grip, etc...or if it was at least as good looking as the 3er...or if the price difference was 10k difference.

I wouldn't want only $6k of savings make me regret my choice in the future.

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JRobUSC - 4/21/2008 3:42:53 PM

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folks, the only reasons the car exists is to give people the ability to buy a BMW for under $30k (128i Coupe) or for the same money as a G37 (135i Coupe). Period. That's it. Simple.

If the 135i is such a bad value at $6k less than a 335i, then so is the G37 because they're the same price (and you could always get a 128i and save more money). If the 135i is too small inside to be practical compared to the 335i, then so is the G37, since it's actually slightly less roomy than the 1-Series (which also has a larger trunk). If the 135i is too heavy because it's only a few hundred lbs less than the 335i, then so is the G37 which weighs MORE than both BMWs. The list goes on.

Seriously, I don't understand the big deal here. I don't know why TTAC (and some people on here) seem so be intent on making the 135i a competitor to its own big brother. That's not what it is. And to people who can afford it and don't "get" the 1-Series, great, buy the 335i. It's a fantastic car and BMW is certainly building more of them. The 135i isn't for you. The 1-Series is for people who actually cared that despite losing the vast majority of comparisons the G37 "beat" the 335i in a couple of tests, not because it was better, but because it was cheaper.

"Value value value". We've heard that for years coming from the Japanese fans. "The Infiniti/Lexus/[insert brand of choice] is a better value than the German car." Now all of a sudden BMW offers something with some value thrown in and everyone loses their minds and doesn't know what to do with it. You don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to spout all the rhetoric about how the G coupe is a value and then complain when BMW offers a lighter, similarly spacious, better performing car for the same amount of money. It makes NO SENSE.

Agent001 - 4/21/2008 3:46:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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BRILLIANT comment!!!!!

001

Threepoint1415926 - 4/21/2008 4:53:09 PM

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+1!!

JRobUSC - 4/21/2008 5:29:25 PM

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thank you, though I'm sure I'll be at -20 over it eventually.

sp33dracer - 4/21/2008 5:39:51 PM

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actually, the real reason this car exists is to help BMW with the CAFE standards, thats why they are bringing it over in low volume. They only need to sell a few to help across the entire BMW line, and are actually giving the car away with next to no profit.

kthor - 4/21/2008 5:54:15 PM

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JRobUSC - BRAVO. You made it worthwhile checking in to Autospies today. Your comment is ten times more intelligent than the "article".

BTW, does anyone know how the author of the article knows what the future resale value of the 135i will be?

0to60 - 4/21/2008 7:14:53 PM

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The G37 looks way better than the 1 series. Its a mans car. The 1 series is very feminine too. I will take the G hands down over a 1.

vman1013 - 4/21/2008 10:00:23 PM

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The G37 is no man's car! It's what you buy when you can't or don't want to buy the better performance/luxury cars. And those better (more expensive performance / luxury) cars could be everything from a GT-R to a Porsche Turbo. The G37 is a good car but its no "man's car".

qweasdzxc - 4/22/2008 12:13:40 AM

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135 is not meant to compete w/ G37. I don't know how on earth people get that stupid idea.

This car is smaller than HONDA CIVIC Coupe, which means it's ridiculous to think it's got any 'value' written in the front compared to G37. BMW made a mistake to put uninhabitable seat behind which I suspect the main purpose is to add unnecessary weight so it does not outrun 335.

So Un-BMW, I'll say.

S4cabriofoxone - 4/22/2008 8:54:26 AMView My AgentSpace

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The Infiniti G37 may be physically larger than the 135i, but it seems to have all gone to the hood of the car, because the BMW has more interior space and a larger trunk. That is why they're being compared.

bimmer - 4/22/2008 1:35:41 PMView My AgentSpace

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Let me add also that as the 3 series got bigger, as BMW said, the 1 series fits, pricewise, right between the Mini and the 3 series.

JRobUSC - 4/22/2008 1:45:21 PM

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dugit, I'm not going to argue with you. If it's ok for Infiniti to say the G37 is a 3-Series coupe competitor then it's ok for BMW to say "maybe to you, but to us the 1-Series is our G37 comptitor". It works both ways.

Besides, my guess is the general public is smart enough to look at two similarly priced two door performance coupes offering similar features and spaciousness from two high line manufacturers that compete regularly and recognize "hey, these are competitors". Again, that's my guess, we'll see how the sales play out. As for your Porsche comparison, well, yeah, you're right, a new Porsche isn't a competitor to a G37 or 135i even though they're similarly impractical. Why aren't they? Price. When something new from Brand X costs double something new from Brand Y, and Brand Y isn't a some generic brand knockoff, they're not competitors. And you can't compare new and used, that makes no sense. Just because a 2003 745Li might cost $30k it doesn't make it a competitor to a 2008 Avalon or Accord or any other new $30k car. It just makes it a competitor with used Benz's, Audi's, Lexus's, other BMW's, etc. Though incidentally a couple of magazines tested them and the 135i outperforms a Cayman for a lot less money. Maybe it's BMW's turn to use the Infiniti methodology of selling versus cars they don't really compete with -- "look at the value of the 135i versus the Porsche Cayman!!!"

Sorry, that ended up longer than I meant it to considering I said I wasn't going to argue with you. Now I'm done, promise. You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want, and the world will go on turning.

vladyxa - 4/22/2008 1:47:37 PM

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009 did not write the article - he's "copy-paste" kinda guy.

So, you would have to agree with the guy who actually wrote that.

S4cabriofoxone - 4/23/2008 12:54:02 AMView My AgentSpace

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"The 135i is essentially a 2 door sedan. It is quite ridiculous to compare interior space (sit in a Porsche if you like)"

How could it possibly be considered ridiculous when the 135i is nearly a foot shorter than the G37? I'm not talking about headroom, I'm talking about legroom. The 1 Series has more space in the back seat (and trunk), which just doesn't make sense.

And considering the fact that the 1 Series hatch isn't exactly the most spacious vehicle in the first place (that's always one of its "cons" in comparisons against the A3/GTI--practicality), I'd call it even.

JRobUSC - 4/24/2008 4:44:22 PM

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dugit, legroom in back is small in either car. The more telling figure is headroom. The 1-Series has some, the G37 does not. As for the trunk and not having a spare, the 1-Series has runflats. Whether you like them or not (and I'm totally fine with knowing I could blow two tires on a pothole or construction zone here and still keep driving) they're not going away, so why waste trunk space with a spare? You don't have to make excuses for why the G37 has a smaller trunk. The reasons don't matter, whatever they are the trunk is smaller and the rear seats uninhabitable versus the smaller sized, similarly priced, better performing 135i.

qweasdzxc - 4/27/2008 4:18:48 PM

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LIE LIE LIE Jrob.

G37's got a wheelbase of 112.2", only 1" less than 5 series, compared to 104.7" of 1 series. Therefore there's tons of legroom, which, for people of all height, is always more important than headroom.

1 series may have better headroom, but that's why it's so ugly.

JRobUSC - 4/29/2008 11:18:54 AM

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qweazy, buddy, you really should do some research before you call people liars. Especially people who are right when you're wrong. I don't care how long the G37 is or what the wheelbase is. All the length is in the hood, it doesn't translate into extra space inside (at least not in back).

Tell you what, I'll do the research for you since you were too lazy to do anything but call me a liar. Here's the dimensions of both cars rear seats, courtesy of Yahoo cars for the G37 and Edmunds for the 135i:

G37 135i
Leg 29.8" 32"
Head 34.5" 37.1"
Shoulder 52.7" 55"

Hmmm, odd, despite the long wheelbase and length you're so fond of on the G37 it appears the 135i actually offers more rear seat room... IN EVERY DIMENSION. Look it up. And next time look it up BEFORE you post, it saves me the time and you the embarassment. Thanks for playing.

amazinBimmer - 4/21/2008 2:49:28 PM

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doesnt matter, but the audi will lose everytime.

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S4cabriofoxone - 4/21/2008 6:55:47 PMView My AgentSpace

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Spot on as usual.

SHOWTIME - 4/21/2008 2:51:30 PM

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my fault, I thought you wrote the article

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M35MT - 4/21/2008 3:07:58 PMView My AgentSpace

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"The 335i coupe is more attractive"
CHECK
"more enjoyable to drive"
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"holds its value better and offers far more real road usability than the 135i"
CHECK

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Anthony - 4/21/2008 3:27:07 PM

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Agreed.

I'd choose the 335i on looks alone. It is one attractive car.

kthor - 4/21/2008 6:01:43 PM

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Why do people seemed to be surprised that these cars are different from each other? They look different, they are priced differently, they perform differently, and they satisfy different needs in the marketplace. BMW knows how to position cars so they don't canabalize each other, who would have guessed?

kthor - 4/21/2008 6:04:28 PM

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And, how can this author claim to predict resale value? He is the only idiot in that picture.

M35MT - 4/22/2008 7:28:07 AMView My AgentSpace

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The 3 series has a history of high resale value. You really think the 1 series can compete at that level (of re-sale values, that is). I dont think so.

ahk288 - 4/21/2008 3:27:21 PM

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Am I the only person who thinks the 1 looks like a clown car? I think the idea is great, but BMW skipped a beat with the styling.

The 335i is a dream of a car

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Agent001 - 4/21/2008 3:33:39 PMView My AgentSpace

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1-Series looks awesome and muscular in person from many angles...I think reviewer is way off here.

Both cars are fantastic. I love them both in their own ways.

And just go drive a 135i and your life will be changed.

He also neglected to mention the 1-Series has a 79% lease residual so even though the msrp is close to the 3, you will lease one MUCH cheaper than a 3.

001

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lewishamiltonpimp - 4/21/2008 5:19:48 PM

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Really? 79%? I don't think so homey. Here are the lease rates for April. These are the BMW 'buy rates' and residuals.

The 1 series is limited production. Every one will be sold for a decent prorit close to sticker. You can get a 3 series for $1000-$1500 over 'invoice' if you know what you are doing. Not so the 1er. Plus, the money factor is higher than the three and dealers will pad that by 0.0004 (acceptable practice and allowed by BMWFS).

I would say a 135 will come in around the same as a 3 series sedan if you lease. the E92 coupe will be more expensive.

2008 BMW 135i Coupe
24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

2008 BMW 335i Coupe
24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 33% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

2008 BMW 335i Sedan
24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

79%, that's funny.

thecar - 4/22/2008 9:35:22 PM

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001 buys urs back for 79%

mlevere1992 - 4/21/2008 3:37:52 PM

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I built a 135 and a 335 coupe with the identical configurations and looked at a lease payment for both and the 335 waws actually $10 a month cheaper. The 335 was $4000 more when priced.

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Agent001 - 4/21/2008 3:41:21 PMView My AgentSpace

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That's because you didn't use the AutoSpies.com buying service ;)

001

Lavic - 4/22/2008 1:30:35 PM

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"AutoSpies.com buying service" ?!

Any chance we can learn more about that?

thecar - 4/22/2008 9:39:35 PM

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because BMW knows per owned 3's sells like hot cakes

thecar - 4/22/2008 9:39:41 PM

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because BMW knows preowned 3's sells like hot cakes

dlin - 4/21/2008 4:16:15 PM

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Good review.

What distinguish BMW from others are the poisedness at the limit. When you read "extremely twitchy nature" and "bucks and snaps like a cheap Kia", you know BMW intentionally neglect this heritage when creating 135 to take those cheap muscle guys into the house.

I'd rather have a 7500 rpm NA 130 w/ 200 lb less than a TT 135. Maybe we'll see that in next generation when they develope a separate platform for it.

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AgentOrange - 4/21/2008 4:44:15 PMView My AgentSpace

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A guy who drinks latte likes the 335i more than the 135i..
Who coulda seen that coming..

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IS3andME - 4/21/2008 5:57:57 PM

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I liked the !35i and have been waiting on it for years. I liked the profile and I have showed it to my co-workers and they said it looks too much like my current car (a IS300), with the "fish-bowl" cabin. Maybe that is why I like it. If I could I would keep my current car, get the 135i (and remove about 500-600 pounds) and get a used E46 M3. The 335i's wheel base is too long for me and it gives it a awkward look, which makes the wheels look small. As a matter of fact the the new M3 looks better as a sedan than as a coupe, and I bet most of you would agree.

And what makes the 135i so ugly? Nobody has said that yet.

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bmwfan1513 - 4/21/2008 9:16:08 PM

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Both of them are great cars. I would get the 335i because you can get all wheel drive and it is better looking.

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jlukawitzM32008 - 4/21/2008 9:23:27 PMView My AgentSpace

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I test drove the 135i this past weekend, and was really impressed with the car. Here is my $0.02. The car I drove was equipped with the sport package bringing the window sticker to $37k & change. Equipped that way, the car is in my opinion a great car, and a decent value.

Option the heck out of the car, and yeah you are knocking dangerously close to 328 & 335 coupe territory, again, depending how prudent you are with options.

I have driven the 335i coupe, and I own a 2008 M3 sedan and can tell you that the 135i feels a lot closer to an M3 than does the 335i. There is a raw edge and urgency present in the 135i not present in the 335i.

I was supremely impressed with the 135i after driving it, and if I weren't blessed with the resources to drive an M3, I would certainly drive the 135i.

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Agent001 - 4/21/2008 10:59:29 PMView My AgentSpace

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You are a man who knows his cars!

I totally agree with your assessment.

Raw edge and urgency are the key terms...if anyone out there has not driven one and I KNOW most haven't, you NEED to.

Your opinion will change 100%

135i isn't our 2008 car of the year for nothing!

001

Agent001 - 4/21/2008 11:02:21 PMView My AgentSpace

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And DARE I say that the 335 is a 'little' girly in design compared to the one.

On pure beauty, the 335 is amazing but that elegance translates into femininity or leans metrosexual.

The 1 is a rough, snotty nosed, tough as nails college freshman.

001

SHOWTIME - 4/21/2008 11:29:54 PM

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The 135i has no presence! The G37 does! Even with similar interior room the G37 has a longer and wider stance that turns heads left and right. Nobody is questioning how the 135i drives cuz we all know it's the best in its price range, but lets face it, if it wasn't a BMW I wouldn't even consider paying over 25K for that squashed up look.

The only people I imagine fitting to that car are little nerdy school boys who love fast cars and are not into style at all.

dlin - 4/22/2008 12:21:39 AM

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I'd rather be metrosexual than midget.

I'd be more happy w/ a 130 of less porky style.

S4cabriofoxone - 4/22/2008 9:03:14 AMView My AgentSpace

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How is the M3 sedan? I had no idea they were even being delivered yet and I'm interested.

001... Beautiful cars are always feminine. The Astons, Jag XK, Maserati GT, Porsche Cayman, Audi S5... They all have big, sexy hips. I wouldn't want my sports car to look like a man.

jlukawitzM32008 - 4/22/2008 12:33:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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Agent 001, Thank-you for your kind words.

I think that about 95% of the people who always seem to have something to say about just about every topic never have actually driven the car they are commenting on.

I would love to join the Autospies.com team as an agent offering my $0.02 on topics that arise, or ones that are created.

I have had access to some incredible cars in my time, and have access to some pretty cool machines myself including my newest toy, the 2008 M3 Sedan (which I paid sticker price for!!!).

I have had a 997s, my wife drives a Audi A6 4.2 (which I am not a big fan of) and have driven just about every make with the exception of the super exotics like Ferrari, Lamborghini etc.

If there is a place for me on the team, I would welcome the opportunity to interview for the position. I will be in California this weekend (flying in Thursday to LAX, staying in Orange County) if you are available to meet.

Look forward to talking to you.

-Jason

S4cabriofoxone - 4/23/2008 12:55:14 AMView My AgentSpace

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"I have had access to some incredible cars in my time, and have access to some pretty cool machines myself including my newest toy, the 2008 M3 Sedan (which I paid sticker price for!!!)."

How in the hell did you do that???

jlukawitzM32008 - 4/23/2008 6:39:05 AMView My AgentSpace

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I paid sticker price for the car because our local BMW dealer does not mark up their cars. I walked into the dealership (my sales person had told me the sedan had shown up) and bought the car off the showroom floor. When I was in there the other day they had a white coupe on the floor (Not sure if it sold yet) but it was not marked up either.

gsh23 - 4/21/2008 11:15:02 PM

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eh, evo x is faster around the track than the 135i. 335i is bigger and better looking than the 135i.

what makes the 135i so appealing? there are faster cars for cheaper. there are better looking and bigger cars for cheaper.

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bimmer - 4/22/2008 1:54:18 PMView My AgentSpace

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OK... OK... down boy... You can go back under your rock...

IS3andME - 4/22/2008 3:11:04 AM

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^^^ Your forgetting that the Evo X is a car based on a econobox, whereas the original ! series in Europe was mant to go against the Audi A3 in the entry level lux dept.

When Audi brought the A3 over here, they were playing by themselves, BMW had stated when they conceived the 1 series that a coupe was going to come over the US, to go against the A3.

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Johnwah - 4/22/2008 5:09:08 AM

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This is a very US specific reason why the 335 is superior. In Australia starting price is $71,410 for the 135 and $108,900 for the 335. (Crazy considering the AU dollar is worth $US0.94!!!!!! but anyway...)

I also think the 135 is aimed a younger audience who don't care about practicality. I am looking at getting the 135 and since I am 24yo practicality is the last reason I would buy a car.

The 135 makes a very strong argument for the younger audience with a fantastic engine, great handling all in a premium brand sports coupe for a affordable price.

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Johnwah - 4/22/2008 5:24:46 AM

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BTW there is no G37 in Australia either.

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Redwood - 4/22/2008 11:15:45 AMView My AgentSpace

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Here is the perspective of somebody that has driven the 335i and 135i several times, plus the new M3 coupe once. I also owned a '99 M3 for a while and currently drive a modified E46 328, which I autocross.

The 335i is a great car, but it feels big (part of that is because it IS big) and it's not quite as sharp edged as I'd like. The 135i feels small and even lighter than its weight. I'd say it feels even lighter than my current 3, which IS 200lbs lighter than the 3. The steering is great (nice ratio, nice weight), the ride is the perfect compromise between harshness and handling. The interior is more comfortable/roomier than my '99 M3 was, and is nicer. I'm 6'7", so if I can fit, most people can fit. It feels like a better handling, faster accelerating E36 M3, and it COSTS LESS than my '99 did (not even counting inflation).

The '08 M3 is a great car and great grand tourer, but it is not the M3 of old. I felt like I could place the 135i on a dime no the asphalt, and did not get that feeling with the M3. The brakes on the M3 didn't FEEL quite as good as the 135's, but stopped just as well. The ultimate grip on the M3 was better than the 135, however. The M3 I drove had the adjustable dampers and could handle harsh pavement slightly better, but you sure pay for that ability. The steering was wonderful though. My fiance, who fell in love with the E46 M3 "I was one with the car" after autocrossing one put it this way "I hate myself for saying this, but I think I like the 135 better than the M3." Als, those door pockets on the 3er are pretty much worthless, and great on the 1. It's the little things...

The 135 is just sharper out of the box and that's what I want for a non-hardcore car to take to the track and daily drive. I also at one time considered the Evo, but the seats are just too uncomfortable, the interior isn't that nice, and I can't get comfortable without a telescoping wheel. The STI is better, but is so close to the 135's price, that I find myself saying "$36K for a Subaru?" The G37 wasn't really a consideration, but that thing is SMALL inside. I don't even remotely fit.

That being said, if the refreshed 3 comes out with a performance package containing many of the 135's braking/handling features (at a decent price), I would have to consider it due to the availability of a 4 door.

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cybernetck - 4/22/2008 12:33:53 PM

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Thanks to JRobUSC and Redwood for provided detailed and insightful comments about the 135 in comparison to other cars. I had the 135 on my shortlist of next cars, but I'll move it up a few notches! I'm looking forward to a test drive this summer (in the 135).

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Lyall - 4/22/2008 12:43:23 PM

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Now that we're describing cars in terms of sexuality- OF COURSE ALL beautiful cars are somewhat feminine. As S4 aptly said- big beautiful hips! And thats what men want to get into.

On another note- women do like to be on top- and that may be why they love SUVs and high off the ground driving positions more than men.

So when push comes to shove- men like to get into women- and women like to be on top of men. And there lies the baseline to automobile design.

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2xturbo - 4/22/2008 3:08:14 PM

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Somehow I don't like my cars warped in the middle like a wet piece of plywood. The sagging sows belly of the 1 Series is a pitiful design.

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1995e34 - 4/22/2008 3:34:58 PM

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they are both the best, silly.

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altdude - 4/22/2008 5:52:10 PM

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Or you can just buy a year or two-old 335i for the same price as a new 135...

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S4cabriofoxone - 4/23/2008 12:56:32 AMView My AgentSpace

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More like a six-month-old 335i. There's not a large price difference.

AgentOrange - 4/23/2008 10:52:41 AMView My AgentSpace

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It's interesting that the biggest critics of the 135i here have never driven one..
I can only assume that their opinions are based solely on the opinions of others..
So for those of you who form your opinions based on those of others, here's another opinion to add to your collection:

"The fact of the matter is this. The 135 coupé is the best car BMW makes. I have no hesitation at all, then, in giving this long-awaited return to form the rare accolade of five stars.." - Jeremy Clarkson

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle3103294.ece

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AgentOrange - 4/23/2008 4:53:27 PMView My AgentSpace

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TheBoss;
My post was for those who form their opinions based on reviews by automotive jiurnalists.
I don't. I test drove the 1ers and am impressed with them regardless of any reviews (positive or negative).
I have not driven the CSL, so I have NO opinion as to its relative rank in automobileland.. Sorry..

PerformanceGuy - 4/23/2008 1:23:59 PM

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Something about the 135i just doesn't seem right, but I think it will be good competition for the Genesis Coupe.

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ktu01 - 4/24/2008 1:08:20 AM

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Why not compare the 128/135 series with the VW R32? I know the VW is a hatch, but in Europe, don't they compare the 130 hatch with the VW R32 a lot?

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huu76 - 4/27/2008 3:16:02 PM

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If $5K means a lot to you, then you probably shouldn't be shopping for anything in the pre-entry-luxury segment.

You could always buy used, I heard BMW might have a few in stock.

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JRobUSC - 4/29/2008 1:27:28 PM

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not to interrupt your BMW bashing, since it is pretty funny sometimes to watch you spew your nonsense like the word vomit it is, but last month BMW sold 9600 Certified PreOwned BMW's in the U.S. That was actually a sales record for them, outselling Lexus and Mercedes combined in preowned, and for the year BMW's Certified sales are up over 50%. Just thought you (and anyone who doesn't realize you're full of crap and usually don't know what you're talking about) might want to know that. Anyway, again, sorry for interrupting your BS, you can continue bashing BMW again now.

JRobUSC - 4/29/2008 4:03:31 PM

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oh, and that's without the 0.9% or 1.9% financing or whatever it is you keep bringing up. BMW doesn't have that here. Mercedes does though.

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