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Which Is The MOTHER Of Under $50k Premium Coupes?

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Which Is The MOTHER Of Under $50k Premium Coupes?

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senorgato - 5/11/2008 2:12:09 PM

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BMW, hands down. New styling of G37 render is anonymous, with no road presence. Performance is good for both, but so it is for the Honda Accord Coupe, too. I'd actually vote the Accord 2nd to the BMW. Or actually, maybe 3rd to a 2nd place A4.

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auto001 - 5/11/2008 2:31:45 PM

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No wonder you're flattered by the BMW, it pretty much looks like the last gen Accord coupe! G37 not only has more road presence, the exhaust note can sell this car all on its own! Performance wise you're splitting hairs but pricewise, we know who wins that contest. Leatherette anyone?

1995e34 - 5/11/2008 2:34:30 PM

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exhaust note? selling a car? wow.

Chip - 5/11/2008 3:25:45 PM

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Altima Coupe anyone?

dlin - 5/11/2008 4:05:46 PM

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G37 certainly turns your head and conveys the image of premium sports coupe. However I'll vote for 335 for the Mother of it. With $10,000 more, you got to be able to do it.

bigTYME - 5/11/2008 4:34:52 PMView My AgentSpace

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The only department Infiniti should work on is refinement. That aside, I would say the Infiniti takes my vote. But until then the 335 is the best.
"No road presence" - you must be blind.

LexusLion - 5/11/2008 8:25:40 PM

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They both look pretty identical to one another. Did the Infiniti copy the BMW or? To me, the G37 looks suspiciously similar to the styling of the Lexus SC 430 coupe, too. Kind of like a mix between an SC 430 and 335i. Also, do I see a Scion TC influence in the G37 design? Both cars are really nice and I would be happy to have either one. :-)

Agent004 - 5/11/2008 9:33:09 PMView My AgentSpace

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I like the exterior styling of the Infiniti better, however the BMW pretty much trounces it in every other category.

F1_Driver - 5/12/2008 12:19:45 AM

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The 3 series does not trounce the G37 in handling.

ChrisM - 5/12/2008 12:45:57 PM

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You've got to be kidding me, if you think the 335 coupe has more "road presence" than the G then i think it's time to visit your nearest oculist. Seriously tho, while I do think the accord is pretty cool looking and an "ok" performer in the end it is still a fwd econocar with some grunt.. Please don't compare it to the 335 or the G :(.

Agent004 - 5/12/2008 6:28:19 PMView My AgentSpace

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"The 3 series does not trounce the G37 in handling."
K. I will bet you a bragging dollar the 3 series can be raced faster than the G37. Skidpad G numbers don't mean much in real world racing, nor do slalom numbers.

F1_Driver - 5/12/2008 7:24:52 PM

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"I will bet you a bragging dollar the 3 series can be raced faster than the G37. Skidpad G numbers don't mean much in real world racing, nor do slalom numbers."

Of course not, not when it isn't in favor of the 335.

P.S. show me a race course where the 335 laps faster than the G37.

auto001 - 5/13/2008 1:39:06 PM

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yeah, how many people in the real world do "real world" racing. Performance numbers for these two are negligible, all depends skill level of the driver.

farabira1 - 5/14/2008 5:37:17 PM

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The G37 coupe is the best looking coupe under 50 grand, and it performs and handles as well as the BMW 335i, so clearly it is the winner.

85bmw745i - 5/14/2008 10:17:52 PM

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For someone named F1 Driver I figured you would know better than to think the 335 can't beat a g37 on a track. I think both are great cars, however the BMW seems to feel thicker and more complete. now for the money the G37 wins hands down, and it is a sharp looking car, but performance and luxury I have to say the BMW wins that one.

F1_Driver - 5/15/2008 12:49:28 AM

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"For someone named F1 Driver I figured you would know better than to think the 335 can't beat a g37 on a track."

Prove it. Talk is cheap.

Chip - 5/15/2008 6:04:00 AM

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WOW -16 !!!!

First time my post disappeared. Im getting hated on by many people these days. That must mean I'm creating controversy.

My response was to the idiot above who implied Leatherette is on BMW's. If he had any clue about the brand, he would realize that 99% of BMW's have the premium package and it's very very rare when one gets leatherette. BMW doesnt even have cars on the lot without leather.

senorgato - 5/11/2008 2:12:24 PM

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Oops, I meant A5

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MrGunFun - 5/11/2008 2:15:59 PMView My AgentSpace

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BMW of course.

BMW = normal good
Infiniti = inferior good

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F1_Driver - 5/11/2008 3:09:27 PM

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BMW = inferior, period.

G37 = sex on wheels!

henbmw - 5/12/2008 1:08:32 PM

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I love the G37, but lets not get dillusional here. The 335i is a heck of a car and the G37 is very privledged being a direct competitor with it.

MichaelTaylor - 5/11/2008 2:20:24 PM

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Infiniti

More reliable and better value for money. Good performance too, better than BMW in some cases.

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1995e34 - 5/11/2008 2:36:46 PM

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i don't like the g37 coupe's posterior. though, i do like the rear of the sedan.

either way, the only reason i would opt for the g37 over the 335i would be to try something new and different.

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S4cabriofoxone - 5/11/2008 2:41:13 PMView My AgentSpace

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1. 335i
2. A5/G37 (tie)

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DaHarder - 5/11/2008 2:44:43 PM

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The 335i Is A Great Drive, But The G37 Appeals Much More To My Sense of Aesthetics/Ergonomics While Giving Up Very Little To The BMW As Far As Performance In Real World Driving Situations.. All For Far Less Money

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85bmw745i - 5/14/2008 10:19:19 PM

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Very well put even though I like the BMW more, you make the most sense by what you said.

KZ258 - 5/11/2008 2:52:05 PM

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G37

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craig1211 - 5/11/2008 2:56:56 PM

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I have now owned both a BMW and now the Infiniti. They are both great drivers cars, I think we can all agree on that. I wanted to buy a 335Ci coupe in the worst way but I could not get past the interior design. I'm sorry but that dashboard looks like it was pulled directly out of a 1985 Ford LTD! Also the flimsy cup holders would send any beverage flying when taking a tight twisty. Throw in a hard to use GPS / I Drive system and the fact my last BMW had to be serviced 5 times during a 2 year lease and you have my Answer. I have a G37 with 4 wheel steer, sweet 6 speed shifter and a voice recognition GPS system to die for!! Opps, almost forgot - they actually give you an IPOD interface and the cable for free! Also I can leave my key in my pocket and just push the dash button for free too! (Both of these last two options are $500.00 each from BMW) nuff said!

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auto001 - 5/11/2008 3:12:10 PM

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The only free option you get in a BMW is the air inside it :)

Htay7500 - 5/11/2008 3:01:02 PM

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I like the interior of the g37 but do like the 335 as well. both neat competitors.

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F1_Driver - 5/11/2008 3:10:53 PM

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G37 hands down!

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Chip - 5/11/2008 3:17:08 PM

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1) 335i
2) A5
3) G37

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0to60 - 5/11/2008 3:26:17 PM

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The BMW 3 coupe is a sexy vehicle. The exterior styling is very appealing.

The G37 is very masculine vehicle. It makes a bold statement.

I dont like the interior in the BMW but I would probably lean towards it, especially in a convertible. But overall I would probably put them at 50/50

The a5 is nice as well.

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PerformanceGuy - 5/12/2008 1:20:09 PM

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Very well said, that is why I prefer the looks of the G37, it has a more aggressive look to it.

craig1211 - 5/11/2008 3:37:43 PM

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I know everyone is tired of talking about high gas prices but this fact fits in with this comparo - The $7000.00 you will save buying a loaded G37 over a loaded 335 coupe will pay for a whole lotta gas!!

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Agent001 - 5/11/2008 4:13:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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But the 335 gets 5-7mpg more real world mileage than the G37...So the price difference shrinks a little

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Agent001 - 5/11/2008 4:13:59 PMView My AgentSpace

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+ BMW's have free maintenance for 4/50...shrinks the price difference again.

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Agent001 - 5/11/2008 4:15:19 PMView My AgentSpace

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And if I'm not mistaken, the 335 costs less to insure.

Any insurance agents out there than can support this?

shrinks the price difference again

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KZ258 - 5/11/2008 4:46:28 PM

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wow...oo1 is nit-pickin on the extremely small savings you get out of a 335i. real nice oo1. im gonna now completely change my answer thanks to your very helpful insight and im being like totally serious


answer: G37

Agent001 - 5/11/2008 4:48:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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Not trying to change anyones mind just point out some some sentient points...

WE REPORT, YOU DECIDE.

001

bmwdrvr - 5/11/2008 6:36:20 PM

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infinit should have spent the extra money and gave it interior worthy of a car in this class, i mean seriously, the CLK, A5, and 3 series all have interiors that belong in a luxury car, the G37's interior is no nicer than an altima

0to60 - 5/11/2008 7:21:38 PM

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My local Infiniti dealer offers that free maintenance as an incentive also. If I can remember, it only costed about $300 - $500 extra to have the free maintenance. Also, Infiniti offered a bumper to bumper warranty up to 100k miles and 6 or 7 yrs for $1200 - 1500. Not a bad deal.

F1_Driver - 5/11/2008 7:46:45 PM

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The 3 series' interior is luxury? Now I know you're on crack!

EL34 - 5/11/2008 8:08:47 PM

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001 is always fair and balanced ;->

SHOWTIME - 5/12/2008 10:40:11 AM

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Agent 001, I do agree with you that the 335i would easily get avg 5-7mpg higher. Driving moderate with my G37 6-speed I get an avg of about 16-17mpg that is mixed with city and highway.

Brembo - 5/12/2008 11:23:29 AM

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001

I thought insurance companies usually jack up the prize of the premium when they hear the word "turbo." Maybe because you're older and more trust worthy as a driver.... hahah JUST KIDDING.

Vendetta - 5/12/2008 6:00:54 PM

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Agent001 is a BMW employee.

Of course he is going to support BMW by any means necessary, even it is for frivolous reasons.

0to60 - 5/14/2008 4:05:13 PM

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001 we get it, you are obsessed with BMW! In your mind there are none better and none that will ever be better. We get it!

EL34 - 5/11/2008 4:16:50 PM

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Why did BMW copy the styling of the Datsun :(

BMW should've copied the 240Z!

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Lexus - 5/11/2008 4:17:16 PM

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The Infiniti G37 hand down from both look and pricing alone.

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craig1211 - 5/11/2008 4:23:57 PM

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I'll give you the MPG, I priced both the BMW and G37 for insurance with 3 places beofre I bought two were about the same one was lower for the 37. As for maintance, these cars are pretty much maintance free except for oil changes and wiper blades. In my case over a two year lease thats maybe 200.00 - Free maintance is almost required on the bimmer as it does not even have a dip stick. Also BMW only gives you one oil change a year (How would you like to buy one of those cars just off say a 3 year lease with just 3 oil changes over 45,000 miles - yikes!)

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KZ258 - 5/11/2008 5:52:17 PM

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is that even healthy for the car? ONE oil change per year???i never heard such crap before

0to60 - 5/11/2008 7:25:26 PM

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Dont BMW's only require oil changes once a year and around 10-12k miles? doesnt it use that other kind of oil? I remember mine rarely requiring an oil change when I took it for its scheduled maintenance

henbmw - 5/12/2008 1:13:49 PM

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Yeah, thats incorrect. It is a new oil change every 12k-15k miles, which is reasonable for the synthetics they use.

M3owns - 5/11/2008 4:38:54 PM

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335i , is a better performer and it is the mother of coupes under that price range, why? because with 30 less horsepower than the infiniti it still kicked the infiniti's ass on the track. Its a looking coupe too. I just wish that the Audi A5 or S5 had more power for their price. I also dont understand why audi isnt in this comparison. I love bimmers but I also respect audi, because of their exterior design and interior design and quality. As for people talking about reliability, I just have to laugh because if you have to price to buy it, you can probably pay for its maintenance.

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markanthony0419 - 5/12/2008 9:45:02 AM

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you cant compare horse power numbers they arent compared the same. Infiniti takes its ratings from the engine while bmw takes it from the rear wheels thats about a 20% or so loss and everybody knows bmw understates there hp numbers on purpose. If it was compared the same the hp ratings would be about the same.

stone - 5/11/2008 4:41:05 PM

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Mostly subjective her but I'll take a stab:

Price: Infiniti hands down here.

Straight Line Performance: the N54 is flat out amazing and even though the G37 has better topend power, i'm a low end torque type of guy. BMW FTW

Handling: A wash unless you believe in the "magic feel" of the BMW.

Looks: I prefer the look of the Infiniti. The BMW is not ugly, but the exterior of the Infiniti looks more "Premium" to me.

Fuel ecomony: The BMW has better economy but we are not talking 4cyl hybrids here. I would not buy a sports coupe for economy, so to me that's a wash.

For my money, I would pick the G37

Stone....

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Audiphile - 5/11/2008 5:05:56 PM

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This is almost too easy!

BMW for all practical purposes invented the (relatively) affordable sports sedan. The 335i,the latest iteration, is still the King of the small sports sedan hill. (Er, excuse me, I meant Queen - this is Mother's Day after all!)

The Infiniti G37, while a very able contender, is still not the equal of the BMW 335i. It is cheaper, however.

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ChicaneShooter - 5/14/2008 10:28:47 PM

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an arguable point. nissan had the Datsun 510 way back in the late 1960s/early '70s. they even came with irs. many were used in club racing.

granted, there's a lot of water under the bridge since, and nissan sorta dropped the ball on sports sedans since. for export markets anyway.

the GT-R maintained the sports sedan tradition in japan.

STJ88 - 5/11/2008 5:24:15 PM

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The G37 there is no better.

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bmwdrvr - 5/11/2008 6:33:42 PM

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the 335i is the best, it has the quality, refinement, performance, and styling....the G37 doesnt have the refinement of the other cars in its class which really refinement really is important in a LUXURY performance class car, the interior quality, or distinctive styling(not that it doesnt look good, it just looks like an altima coupe), it is cheaper but its interior and lack of refinement show where they cut cost.......

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cyco - 5/11/2008 6:34:31 PM

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Both are great cars, I'd have no problem owning either.

That said, I lean more towards performance and would probably go with the 335i.

I can certainly understand those who prefer the G37 though, it's an heck of a car for sure.

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Batman219 - 5/11/2008 6:36:52 PM

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Very tough call. On the one hand you have the Nissan, reliable and doubtless the better value. On the other hand you have the BMW, incredible driving dynamics and teutonic pedigree.

If I had to choose it would be the Nissan simply b/c there are too many BMWs where I live.

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Chronoseus - 5/11/2008 6:54:41 PM

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Actually none of the above. Although a never tend to like any of this cars, this generation actually cought my eyes, I'm talking about the Accord coupe. I never, and really never, liked any of the previous Accords, but the new coupe looks great, far better that both of the contenders up there. As far as performance goes, 0-60 figures are meaningless, mpg... thats another story, Accord 4 me. Interior, I'm sorry I know this is in the eye of the beholder and I dont care if I piss some people off, its my oppinion, never liked Bimmer's interiors and the Infinity's are somewhat... OK. Like I said Accord 4 me, just my thoughts.

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Spoonie_G - 5/11/2008 7:03:18 PM

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BMW

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lady - 5/11/2008 7:20:35 PM

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I made this decision and went with the G37. BMW interior is just too boring, plus the Infiniti was biggest bang for my buck. I'm in love with the sound of the exhast, and it's a great driving experience.
I personally think the car is sexy. Some may say there is no street presence, but there is tons of parking lot presence. For the first month I drove the car to work, people from all levels of management (entry level to directors) would come by my office to ask about the car. I did not expect such a response since there are much faster and more expensive cars in the company. At times I'd walk out to my car to find a group of guys standing around my car. It was weird, but let me know I made the right decision.

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craig1211 - 5/11/2008 8:05:11 PM

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I love these comparo's - Some of you mention that the G37 has a cheap interior. Have you actually been in one? Driven one? The seats are to die for and nice driver oriented touches like the instrument binnicle moving with the power tilt / telescoping steering wheel. BMW's is a lever way under the dash someplace. Also the manual BMW I drove had a shifter that while nice - was not as buttery as the G37. I loved the older BMW's my E46 had the dash that tilted towards the driver - that was cool - now its an ugly straight dash plain cheap looking and rather ugly. My wife thought the BMW coupe exterior looked "girlish" - once she said that I was done with that choice! By the way she is now driving a 2008 328 coupe with no extras because she could not work the I Drive. I also love the music box hard drive in my G37 again not avialable on the BMW. Actually if Caddy does it all right on thier mew CTS coupe I might be there in 2 years - we shall see!

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amazinBimmer - 5/11/2008 8:37:19 PM

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another idiotic post. of course its the bimmer.. there isnt even a close second. a distant second would be the infiniti and the Benz with lexus and audi bringing up the rear.

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craig1211 - 5/11/2008 9:22:04 PM

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amazinbimmer, lighten up! They are both exceptional cars as I mentioned earlier I have owned both and I bought a 328 sedan for my wife last year. I'm sure you love your bimmer as much as I like my current G37. But please not a close second??? I thought they were very close. There were subtle driving refinments in the 335 to be sure. In the end features, value and the ugly bimmer interior changed my mind. I have heard rumors BMW is soon going to address the cheap looking interior issue.

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bmwdrvr - 5/12/2008 6:08:03 AM

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wow, cheap interior in a BMW, this coming from the owner of a nissan 350Z with four seats parading around as a luxury car......god awful......the only thing infiniti has been able to get right with its vehicles is the performance, they lack quality, and refinement things that make a LUXURY/PEFORMANCE car, anybody can make a sports car not everybody can make a car that is as luxurious as it is performance oriented, the only reason to buy a G37 over any other car in the class is you like the 350z but need a backseat, because otherwise thats all your getting........

bmwdrvr - 5/12/2008 6:19:41 AM

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there is a reason why the altima, maxima, g35, g37 and 350Z all have prices that overlap....there is no quality difference, which is why mags keep saying how poor the interior of the G cars are, and how they lack refinement they had to cut costs somewhere and its obvious where, very obvious

FactsRule - 5/12/2008 8:29:55 AM

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The BMW's interior is "not cheap"... It is made consists of much higher quality materials than can be found in any infiniti, lexus, or acura. These materials are just not "blinged out" which to me makes the G37's interior look cheap.

I have driven them both and own the 335i coupe. The leather seats of the BMW will age and hold up much better with time.. Same goes for the dash, buttons and all other interior materials on the BMW and for that matter all BMW's..

Just because something looks more expensive does not mean it is higher quality. I would love to see a G37 and a 335i with the same number of miles and usage 5 years from now and then let's compare the interiors. I bet you anything the 335i will look much better than the G37.

I've owned both Lexus, Infiniti, MB, Acura, Audi and several BMW's and know for a fact that the German makes hold up much better over time..

Vendetta - 5/12/2008 6:05:01 PM

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The interior of the 335i Coupe is ugly looking trash.

Like someone else said before, the interior design looks like it came from a Ford Crown Victoria.

1BadMan - 5/11/2008 9:40:11 PM

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I would not choose the fancy Nissan. BMW 335i all the way. The G37 is a nice looking car, but the BMW is it!

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amazinBimmer - 5/11/2008 9:49:14 PM

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craig.. you should got the 335i

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09CTSVforMe - 5/11/2008 10:15:25 PM

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Bigotted a$$hole. Americans build BMW's.

S4cabriofoxone - 5/12/2008 8:50:21 AMView My AgentSpace

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Americans only build the Z4, X3 and X5.

kthor - 5/15/2008 1:21:08 AM

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The X3 is made in Austria, not the US. The X6 is also made in the US.

PerformanceGuy - 5/11/2008 10:10:29 PM

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The G37 takes this category, it is a amazing machine.

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craig1211 - 5/11/2008 10:35:29 PM

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amazin, I have a 328i in the garage. My wife drives it and I was shocked when I took it to the store the other day. Sorry for me the G37 is it. Power Tracks like on rails, interior kills the bimmer, many more features and amenties that BMW does not even offer. seats better shifter better - in fact amazin, I have a freaking BMW Visa card with 50,000 points on it I cant even use (I was planning to use on a down payment) lol Thats ok thought you got yours and I got mine and were both happy - life is good!!

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enthusiastx11 - 5/11/2008 11:26:00 PM

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335i.

extraordinary engine, phenomenal handling with a great ride, great looking.

i have one. love it.

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lexusis350 - 5/11/2008 11:36:59 PM

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I like things about both of them. I like how the BMW has everything you could look for in a sport sedan. I also like the looks of it. It's a great car. But for the G37, I really like how Infiniti emphasizes their Japanese heritage instead of disguise it and make it seem like they're European. Take Lexus for example. They're good cars, but it seems like they're ashamed to say they're Japanese so they make their cars with European ideas. Infiniti builds a true Japanese car.

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altdude - 5/11/2008 11:37:22 PM

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335. The rear of the G37 looks awkward, to me. It gives me the impression that it's not 'finished' design-wise. The 335 is a much more elegant shape. Not that the G37's a bad car to drive at all... but I still think it's 'not quite there yet'.

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mercuryguy - 5/12/2008 12:07:23 AM

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The Stars of the Detroit Auto show this year was the VW Passat and Audi A5/S5.
Audi A5 was around $50K. Seems like a lot of car for the money.
I like BMW, but you have to spend a lot to get a lot.

The falling American Dollar will push likely Import car prices higher though. With people losing homes, and upside down in their current car loans, most will probably have to wait for the economy to get better.


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valhallakey - 5/12/2008 12:36:40 AM

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