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Why Do Cars Of The 90's Have Better Style Than Now?
American culture is a cyclical and cannibalistic beast, often times feasting on that which was popular in what many would call their “recent memory.” An example of this is the looming fact that the 1990’s---the decade of M.C Hammer pants, Grunge and Beverly Hills 90210---are making a comeback.

Evidence of this comeback can be seen in a number of arenas from the resurgence of flannel in the latest clothing lines of New York fashionistas to the chilly economic outlook for the auto industry. Sales this February for some manufacturers were down as much as 25% compared to last year.

Back in 1990, the economy was also skidding into a recession and car sales plummeted by similar amounts mainly amongst the Big Three and German manufacturers. This recession didn’t really lift until the dot.com boom of the late nineties when everyone and their mother-in-law got into buying the latest gas guzzling SUV’s.

The best part about this 90’s comeback, though, is that it hasn’t yet hit some of the soon to be classic cars from that era. While certain vehicles from the 1980’s like the Audi Quattro and some Mercedes models have seen their values skyrocket in recent years, nothing like that has really hit anything sold between 1990 and 1999.


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Ironman273Ironman273 - 3/11/2008 3:39:21 PM
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The author had access to better drugs?

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Agent009Agent009 - 3/11/2008 3:42:37 PMView My AgentSpace
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Well name a few cars from this decade that actually define a genre such and spawn copycats like the Miata, and the host of small convertibles that followed.

That is the point.

Many of the designs of this decade are regurgitated hack of other styles. You see it everywhere, they are simply copying bits and pieces from everyone else.



M35MTM35MT - 3/11/2008 4:31:15 PMView My AgentSpace
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Bravo 009. I hold the style of the 90's in high regard. Not only were most of the designs timless, but they seemed to have a bigger impact, most likely do to the fact that technology was also becoming 'the car' - computers control was moving in and really making changes.

I'm no chasis code expert, but I can mention a few cars that are 'classic' IMO:

Early 90's BMW 5-Series
Late 90's BMW 7-Series
1996 Audi A4 (huge impact - beautiful!)
Acura Legend
1996 E-Class (ovid headlights)
Supra, Skyline, RX-7, Evo VII
Mid 90's Honda Civic (tuner trend) Overall I believe Honda's best designs came from the 90's, very clean, sharp designs for a mainstream car.





Agent009Agent009 - 3/11/2008 4:51:26 PMView My AgentSpace
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Thank you, I have my moments - but it looks like the market is turning into a cut and paste style of design.

Take the new Hyundais and Hondas. Easy to confuse them with other brands when looking from the rear.

The profile and rear of the LS is very similar to the 7 Series.

Where has the originality gone?



Ironman273Ironman273 - 3/11/2008 4:52:46 PM
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Although I see what you're getting at with examples like the Miata, isn't it too soon to expect to compare the "success" of 90s design to 00s design? I'm sure 10 years from now we'll look back with nostalgia at the "naught" designs. With enough thought a similar article could be written for every decade, and the 80s are even mentioned in the article. The 70s speak for themselves with cars like the new Camaro, Challenger and Mustang.


Agent009Agent009 - 3/11/2008 4:58:06 PMView My AgentSpace
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Everything is cyclical. The 60's and early seventies were good. The late 70's and most of the 80's were boring. The 90's were a renaissance so to speak. The 00's I'm afraid is yet another dry time as far as designs go.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/11/2008 5:39:05 PM
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Lexus and Hyundai will continue to plagiarize other companies' designs and regurgitate them into ambiguous shapes for the masses.

It's hard to say that anything from the nineties had as much as an impact as BMW's flame surfaced bangle-butt design from the 2002 7 series.

If you look at the German cars, they continue to innovate with their designs and set the pattern that Asian manufacturers will copy from. Among Asian makes, only Nissan/Infiniti has an original visual concept (now, if i like it is another story, but it is original)

It seems like every new car design I see from the Japanese is derived from either BMW's flame surface theme, or Audi's sleek losenge look from the A4/A6/A8 of the late nineties.

I don't think that designs from the nineties were better. We have some unvelievably gorgeous cars on the road now. I think the reason why styling seems to appear to have gone stale is that there are so many bland Japanese and Korean cars on the road.

BMW, Cadillac, and Audi are still making fantastic new designs.

Tell Toyota/Lexus, Honda/Acura, and Hyundai to get a clue and get original.



S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/11/2008 6:12:56 PMView My AgentSpace
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"Thank you, I have my moments - but it looks like the market is turning into a cut and paste style of design."

That is true, but you mustn't forget the design breakthroughs of this decade.

In no particular order:

MINI Cooper
2002 BMW 7 Series
2003 Range Rover
Nissan 350Z
BMW X5
Audi R8
Rolls-Royce Phantom
Audi A8
Bentley Continental GT
Porsche Cayman
Cadillac CTS
Mercedes-Benz CLS
Maserati Quattroporte
Aston Martin DB9
Ferrari Enzo
Mercedes-Benz SL
Audi A5/S5
BMW 6 Series
Infiniti G

...I could go on.



djrickpdjrickp - 3/11/2008 3:50:33 PM
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BMW 7 series. Many have copied Bangle butt even though the press hated it. It's grown on me.
Infinity FX series. the first to do the crossover correctly



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EnnNorakEnnNorak - 3/11/2008 11:33:49 PM
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I'll never get used to the Bangle butt and I can't believe that the styling of some of the most expensive cars like the RR has deteriorated.


tattedtwicetattedtwice - 3/12/2008 8:56:00 AM
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You are so wrong that a title and a spot is being reserved for you in Guiness's book. Your post was good for a chuckle though. The mere notion that any company would copy any element from a nissan, let alone the practically-invisible-except-when-being-made-fun-of maxima, is amusing.


NItePhireNItePhire - 3/12/2008 9:04:56 AM
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What about the butt on the Hyundai XG300/350 that was awhile back as well. It looks a little similar in the butt cheek area.


tattedtwicetattedtwice - 3/12/2008 9:16:08 AM
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Exactly. Some could argue that even the XG had the raised-decklid look first, since it came out as a 2001.


WhelanWhelan - 3/11/2008 3:51:27 PM
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I could agree with this, especially with the comment above about the Miata. But also take note of the Civic hatchback that was around in the 90s. Now look what you have. Subaru WRX comes in hatch, Mazda 3, Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe, the list goes on of cars that are in hatch form now and are gaining popularity like crazy.

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RupertRupert - 3/11/2008 5:46:44 PMView My AgentSpace
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Don't think the Civic is responsible for the hatch style - we had hatches forever in Europe, the Civic was just 'another'. Although it did look good.


NItePhireNItePhire - 3/12/2008 9:08:16 AM
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Cant forget about the Golfs and Rabbits of the world.


answeranswer - 3/11/2008 4:01:00 PMView My AgentSpace
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Two of what I consider to be the best looking cars ever were the original Lexus SC400 and the BMW 850csi.

Both Lexus and BMW still make a similar sized two-door now, but neither really has that "wow" factor.


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M35MTM35MT - 3/11/2008 4:34:23 PMView My AgentSpace
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Agreed - the 850 made a much bigger impact than say, the 650 (closest thing to it)


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/11/2008 6:14:40 PMView My AgentSpace
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Actually, I think the 6 Series was very controversial when it first came out. The design is polarizing, stunning, beautiful, artistic, timeless, contemporary... that car won't be looking old any time soon.


PlanBPlanB - 3/11/2008 4:10:49 PM
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Where's the Mitsubishi 3000GT or 2nd generation Eclipse? Or even the Mazda RX-7?

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Agent009Agent009 - 3/11/2008 4:55:38 PMView My AgentSpace
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All are unique designs but the first Gen RX7 was far more innovative and ground breaking.

The 3000GT never spawned a following with copycats, and the Eclipse suffers a similar fate.



PlanBPlanB - 3/11/2008 5:04:49 PM
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I agree with you. But from a classic standpoint, and since we're only talking about the 90's, they were some of the best from that decade.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/11/2008 5:46:14 PM
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The best looking car designs of the 1990's:

1993 Lexus GS300
1993 Lexus SC300/SC400
1992 Acura Legend
(particularly the coupe - the sedan looked good too, but it was very reminiscent of the BMW 7-series of the era. the coupe had it's own unique angular look)
1992 Acura NSX
1997 BMW 5 series
1995 BMW 7 series
1999 Mercedes-Benz CLK coupe
1998 Audi A6
2001 BMW M3
1992 Dodge Viper
1997 Toyota Landcruiser


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pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/11/2008 5:49:12 PM
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The 1999 Cadillac Seville (SLS/STS) should be on the list too. It still looks good today.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/11/2008 5:50:13 PM
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Can't forget the 1997 DB7 that resurrected Aston Martin and the Jaguar XK8 that made everyone forget all about the XJS.


cdokecdoke - 3/11/2008 7:28:37 PMView My AgentSpace
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Now this is just my opinion, but I believe that the most beautiful Jaguar of the 90s was the XJ220- minus its rims.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/11/2008 7:45:54 PM
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Agreed. (to Cdoke)


pchera01pchera01 - 3/14/2008 6:22:48 PM
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1990 300ZX TWIN TURBO


pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/11/2008 5:56:44 PM
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Today's most gorgeous designs:

Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
Aston Martin DB9
Bentley Continental GT
Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe
Jaguar XK8R
Ferrari F430
BMW M3 / M5 / M6
Mercedes-Benz S-Class w/ AMG body kit
Audi R8
Cadillac CTS coupe concept
Maserati Quattroporte
Maserati Gran Turismo

Gorgeous stuff. Can't say that i would rank nineties design ahead of right now when i think about these beauties.


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Agent009Agent009 - 3/11/2008 6:02:23 PMView My AgentSpace
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Interesting all either American or European


S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/11/2008 6:16:21 PMView My AgentSpace
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Well, that's because, in truth, there is not a single Asian car on sale that could be considered one of the most beautiful on the road today.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/11/2008 6:36:42 PM
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The most unique and moving Japanese design is the Infiniti FX. The EX looks good, too.

Honda's designs are good but they're pretty bland, with healthy doses of weird.

Lexus styling is just tired, boring, derived.

the best Lexus designs ever were the SC and GS from the 1990's. Everything else is either an ambiguous blur (current LS) or an outright rip-off (1989-2006 LS.)



M35MTM35MT - 3/12/2008 8:12:04 AMView My AgentSpace
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Although I'm no fan of it, (nor are most people on this site) and I'm not saying it looks that good - however - I do believe that the Lexus RX created some copy cats in its sudtleties - mainly the "chin up" or "nose in the air" front end design. Studying the front end and you'll see what I mean - it's really the only character this car has, but it DOES hold a presence of snooty-ness that attracts its buyers.

The original G35 coupe should get some recognition hear. That was the single more gorgeous coupe/sports car to come from Japan this decade, and deserves to be on "the list".



M53RM53R - 3/13/2008 1:13:34 AMView My AgentSpace
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Pushrod, I totally agree.


Sunshine1810Sunshine1810 - 3/11/2008 5:59:17 PM
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I do prefer the designs of the 1990's to the designs of today. Today all the car companies have huge grills which make them look hideous. I used to own a 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX and I miss the curves from that car.

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RupertRupert - 3/11/2008 6:01:20 PMView My AgentSpace
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Inspiring/good looking cars of the 90's

Mercedes SLK - revived folding metal roofs.
1991 (round then wasn't it?) - BMW 3 series - clean, crisp, and a huge advancement
I suppose the 1999 - 3 series too, just for being good.
1996 Merc E class - almost made the S class redundant.
1995 7 series - it showed big cars could be athletic and comfortable, and was an antidote to the bloated S class
1997 Mercedes ML - terrible car but set the trend for future road-biased SUVs.
Toyota Rav-4
Honda CR-V - this and the Rav pretty much started the cute-ute phase.
1999 Merc S class - the new luxury style, elegant, clean, modest.
1990 Renault Clio. Set the standard for small cars for the next 10 years.
1993 Peugeot 306 - one of the best family hatches, with Pininfarina styling and great handling, and advanced diesel technology.
1998 Ford Focus - the best family car for decades, best selling car in Britain for nearly 10 years
Audi A8 - established Audi as a world player
1999 BMW M5 - the definitive sports saloon.


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answeranswer - 3/11/2008 6:51:26 PMView My AgentSpace
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That 7 series still looks great today. A well kept black one is hot!

First car I was ever in that had foot "pillows" in the rear seating area.

Super dark blue looked good as well.

Great car!



RupertRupert - 3/11/2008 6:59:46 PMView My AgentSpace
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I love them - and my dad has one! It's great!

Although the trouble is people assume you're a Russian gangster if you drive one now...I think if I travel with him I'll just sit in the back seat and put a peaked cap on him :)



RupertRupert - 3/11/2008 7:00:27 PMView My AgentSpace
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And I think it looks great - understated aggression.


tattedtwicetattedtwice - 3/12/2008 9:00:08 AM
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"Mercedes SLK - revived folding metal roofs."

Wrong. This is the beauty of having a popular, if overrated, name; people assume you came first at some things. The slk didn't revive the hardtop, seeing as the 3000GT Spyder beat it to market, being released in the 1995 model year. And the Spyder, to this day, looks better than any hardtop to hit the road since then.



RupertRupert - 3/12/2008 5:35:53 PMView My AgentSpace
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I had no idea about the Spyder - I had never even heard of it.


M53RM53R - 3/13/2008 1:17:43 AMView My AgentSpace
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My dad had a metallic green 1997 indivisual 740iL. It was a beauty. I still think its the best colour ever.


1995e341995e34 - 3/11/2008 7:12:35 PM
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there were some great boxy designs in the 90's. i think i prefer the new stuff though. the lines are now much more expressive.

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asiancars233asiancars233 - 3/11/2008 7:25:41 PMView My AgentSpace
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The only two I can think of that could look as good as cars do now is a Toyota Supra and a Lamborghini Diablo

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vman1013vman1013 - 3/11/2008 9:22:24 PM
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The last twin turbo supra was 10 years ahead of its time! Truly amazing and leap years ahead of the Supra it replaced. One of the greatest "All New" of all time.

That would actually be an intesting thread. What were the greatest "All New Cars" of all time? Not renamed, restyled, updated. I'm talking E46 being relaced by the E92. The second generation GS replacing the first generation GS, etc...



1995e341995e34 - 3/11/2008 10:59:12 PM
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E39 ---> E60


1995e341995e34 - 3/11/2008 11:00:39 PM
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w210 ---> w211


Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/11/2008 7:26:59 PM
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Certainly the 90's was the design heyday for Chrysler, with the Voyager, Grand Cherokee, Plymouth Prowler and their range of fantastic concept cars which never saw production.

FIAT had the Coupe, and Alfa Romeo had the 156.

I think what you are seeing today is a 'globalisation' of design studios, so you can have a Renault designed in Korea and a BMW designed in America.

In the 90's their was a clear distinction between cars of different origin, expressing the 'typical' design style which defined that country.

Sadly today that distinction has been diluted.


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Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/11/2008 7:33:53 PM
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I've just realised a a major flaw in my argument.

The FIAT Coupe and Alfa Romeo were designed by foreigners. The Coupe was designed by Chris Bangle, and the 156 By Walter De' Silvia- A Danish.

I guess these are just great designs in their own right, however I can't help wondering that although these people were not Italian, they were working under the roof of Italian design studios, surrounded and influenced by Italian designers and the country itself.

Now days a SAAB can be designed in Germany (which is the case) etc., where designers become 'removed' from the spirit of the marque and its country of origin.



RupertRupert - 3/11/2008 7:43:35 PMView My AgentSpace
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Renault/Peugeot/Citroen usually do their designing in-house or with the Italians - Renaults and Citroens always look very French.


RupertRupert - 3/11/2008 7:44:18 PMView My AgentSpace
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1 thing - 'Walter De' Silvia- A Danish.'

A Danish? He's a pastry? :P



Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/11/2008 8:21:07 PM
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"Renaults and Citroens always look very French"

Too bad that Renault's are now just Nissans in pretty frocks.

A sad time.



RupertRupert - 3/12/2008 5:37:34 PMView My AgentSpace
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Surely the other way around? I believe Renault is the dominant partner in the business - Renault gave Nissan their diesels and platforms, Nissan the AWD hardware and reliability (well some).


Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/13/2008 1:36:43 AM
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Not quite.

Renault gave Nissan their B-segment platform (Nissan Tiida, Note) which in turn is used on the Megane and Scenic.

Nissan's A-segment and C-segment platform is used by Nissan (The Clio is a Micra underneath and the Laguna a Primera).

The 3.5 V6 in the Espace and Val Satis is from Nissan, and the Renault Koleos is a Nissan X-Trail with a body designed in Korea (over there it is a Samsung).

The ponderous six-speeder in the Megane 225 and Clio Sport is a Nissan item also.

Basically the only 'real' new Renault is the Twingo- based on the previous-generation Clio with Renault-developed turbo-charged engines.

...They'll probably find their way into Nissan models very soon.



Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/13/2008 1:38:25 AM
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*Nissan's A-segment and C-segment platform is used by Renault*

Although I recall the A-segment platform being co-developed.



Htay7500Htay7500 - 3/11/2008 7:58:07 PM
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apparently, the 90's was the best in lots of things, like music, and tv as well as, cars. sadly, its lost somewhere in this century. oh well.

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TargaTarga - 3/12/2008 2:37:26 AM
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Ummm... the 90s sucked for music.... as does this time

:)



answeranswer - 3/12/2008 4:19:54 PMView My AgentSpace
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Are you trying to tell us that Vanilla Ice sucked?


528i528i - 3/11/2008 8:09:49 PMView My AgentSpace
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To me the best looking BMW of the 90's was the E39 BMW 5 series. RS4 is a good looking car too.

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StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 3/11/2008 8:45:24 PM
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Every new car makes 90's car look weak, small and underpowered. LOL 98 Infiniti i30, 97 Accord.

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StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 3/11/2008 8:47:38 PM
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Only nice car from the 90's was the '92 GS 300, that dual rear outlet look that most manufacturers are using/copying now.

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/11/2008 10:10:20 PM
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"dual rear outlet look"

The what now?



M35MTM35MT - 3/12/2008 8:16:06 AMView My AgentSpace
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Does Toyota even make a "StickShiftCamry"?


StickShiftCamryStickShiftCamry - 3/13/2008 11:53:27 PM
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Yes, 3.0 V6 Stick shift from '92 - '01. 4 Cyl w/ stick shift for ever, '09 CE or SE 4 cyl w/ stick shift!


WillisWillis - 3/11/2008 9:11:09 PM
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The 1990s Fiat Multipla should be thrown in here. A car so ugly words fail to describe it - and that's what makes it a unique car. Interesting how ugly design can elevate a car to near cult status.

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Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/11/2008 10:10:48 PM
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The Multipla is a fantastic car though.


vdivvdiv - 3/11/2008 11:23:59 PM
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Here's one I have to suggest, 1993 Ford Probe GT :)

Also a few favorite, 1990 Honda Accord, 1995 Honda Prelude, and the obvious (or obviously controversial) 1999 BMW X5 4.4i.


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huu76huu76 - 3/12/2008 12:20:46 AM
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009, S4foxy,
Take a look at the 90s Chrysler Concorde, there's your CLS.

Bangle Butt = Maybach's first
Acura Integra/Honda Prelude = Ford Fusion

Honda NSX
Toyota Supra
Toyota Celica
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Nissan ZX300
Mazda RX7
Nissan Skyline
I'm sure nobody would ever recognize these timeless designs.

Acura Legend mysteriously has the clear glass encased dual headlamps that BMW is famous for now.
Amazingly, MB CLS and BMW now have nearly identical headlamps as the Nissan Silvia.


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Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/12/2008 12:50:23 AM
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I don't think your qualified to comment on design, huu.

It's no surprise you picked on Japanese cars, but it is interesting to note these are ALL sports coupes.

Notice how many of the European cars mentioned are just ordinary sedans -that's the difference. Anyone can design a coupe that looks good (even Hyundai) but it is more difficult to design a sedan that warrants iconic status and is mentioned years after its inception as being a truly 'great' design.

Let's take another look at that list:

The Celica is not timeless, not more so than any other of its contemporaries.

The Skyline? R32 Maybe. Subsequent models have been ugly, boxy creations which have not dated well.

PLEASE stop lecturing us on the fact that every single breakthrough European car was ripped off an earlier Japanese car. Firstly your comparisons are amateur and weak, and second, whatever examples you can come up with, there are at least double that where Japanese cars have directly emulated European design.

About time you realised Europe has been the undisputed leader of car design for decades. Japan is in the little-league in comparison.




Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/12/2008 12:50:55 AM
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*picked all Japanese cars*


Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/12/2008 5:04:23 AM
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Can you be more specific about what model Maxima you are talking about, (US, Japan version etc.) maybe a link to an image?




S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/12/2008 5:33:34 PMView My AgentSpace
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If you want to talk about modern sedan side profiles, look no further than the Audi 5000/100. Before the defaming "60 Minutes" fiasco, the car was considered a breakthrough in design. It was the first to utilize "aero" side surfacing, i.e. a lack of cladding, making the car look far more modern. It set standards. The original Ford Taurus was the first to imitate the theme, and it was a smashing success (until Ford ruined it).


Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/13/2008 3:49:46 AM
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Ok,

I understand what you are talking about on the 2000 Maxima, however I cannot help think you are hypothesizing about it being universally adopted by other designers, how can you be sure the Maxima was the first with this design element?

As far as the Maxima design goes, I don't think that particular element you are discussing is particularly ground-breaking.

All well proportioned sedans adhere to a strict geometry which (in most cases) ensures the C-pillar line follows down to the rear bumper lower edge, in much the same way the A-pillar should theoretically cut through the centre of the front wheel.

All sedans do what the Maxima does. I think there the Maxima IS different is the relationship between the C-pillar and rear wheel. The C-pillar sits almost on top of it, so that 'imaginary' line you speak of cuts directly through the boot line more prominently.

In essence, the C-pillar is more steeply raked and finishes aft of the rear wheel, that 'imaginary' line actually finishing mid-bumper. This design is more obvious on the 5-series, however one cannot be certain it was influenced by the Maxima.

I know the 1998 Fiat Marea had similar C-pillar proportions, although the boot was noticeably higher than the shoulder line of the car.



S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/13/2008 11:07:12 PMView My AgentSpace
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The 2000 Maxima was somehow both boring and ugly to look at. I NEVER liked that model. It didn't start any trends.

However, compare the Audi 5000...

http://www.audiworld.com/model/100/pix/91-100.jpg

To its contemporaries:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/toyota-camry-6.jpg

http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/member_cars/images/seiferth_535_05.jpg

http://www.europeanmotorcars-ltd.com/cars/86300SDL/8.jpg

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1979-86-jaguar-xj6-series-iii.jpg

To put it simply, the car looked newer than anything else out there. It was groundbreaking. It wasn't just "another" two-box sedan; no, not at all. Keep in mind that all four of the pictures above are of 1986 models--the 5000/100 was released in 1982.

Read up on Wikipedia:

"Edging out the Ford Sierra as Car of the Year in Europe, the 1983 Audi 100 had a remarkable aerodynamic look, achieving a drag coefficient of 0.30 for its smoothest base model. The increased aerodynamic efficiency resulted in better fuel economy and consumers all over the world were waking up to this fact. This became a great marketing tool for Audi in the 1980s and marked a huge leap forward from the boxy shape of the C2 as well as the technology it introduced, including the Procon Ten safety system. Audi was able to catch up to modern smooth look first seen in this sector on the 1975 Citroën CX.

The Audi in turn influenced the Ford Taurus, an American-made sedan from 1986. This rounded look became the norm by the 1990s. It also set a styling trend of flush wheel covers, a thick black side door moulding and blacked out window frames eventually adopted by a range of cars from the 1984 Honda Accord to the K cars.

...The 100 also featured a breakthrough diesel engine, one of the first to use direct-injection in the turbo-diesel model."

Also, read what The Truth About Cars has to say. This is from an article written in 2006:

"If Wal-Mart (of all places) sells dinner plates suitable for the Museum of Modern Art, why are today’s cars so dull? My theory: car designers are still in the thrall of the 1984 Audi 5000.

When the Audi 5000 debuted in 1983, the motoring press slobbered all over themselves. They showered the model with endless praise, touting it as “the world’s most aerodynamic sedan.”"





S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/14/2008 6:17:54 PMView My AgentSpace
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You don't get it.

Give it up already.



Matthew1Matthew1 - 3/15/2008 12:30:35 AM
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XY,

I just got it. I seemed to have over-analysed the Maxima. Now I know the feature you are speaking of, and I cannot belive we had a detailed discussion on it.

So what your saying is, the Maxima's rear bumper is sloped downward. Is THAT it?

That still makes the Maxima a traditional two-box design.



M35MTM35MT - 3/12/2008 8:20:59 AMView My AgentSpace
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Here's something - headlamp designs.

The "foggy" or "sracthed up" looking boxes that were on cars for decades were still prominant in the 90's and died out in the 00's - replaced by the clean-lense multi-density lamps - and no, the over used projector beams.

Some cars in the EARLY 90's had projector beams and looked way ahead of their time, (EARLY 90s!) I'll mention a few please add any I miss:

1995 Infiniti J30
1995 Lexus ES
Toyota Supra
BMW 7 Series
Audi 100 (I think?)


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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/12/2008 5:40:14 PMView My AgentSpace
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BMW 3 Series (http://images.automotive.com/reviews/images/96bmw328.jpg)

Audi A6 (http://images.automotive.com/reviews/images/98audia6.jpg)

Lexus LS400 (http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2000/Lexus/1647/2000.lexus.ls400.6432-396x249.jpg)

BMW 5 Series (http://dharam.us/love-my-cars/My-540i/DSC05300.JPG)

Audi A4 ('98 refresh) (http://www.chooseyouritem.com/autos/photos/272500/272820.jpg)

That's all I can think of.



tattedtwicetattedtwice - 3/12/2008 9:09:23 AM
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To me, the single best looking sports car from the 90's is the original and "2nd gen" (1994-96) Dodge Stealth R/T. The frigid, boring 300z, the god-awful hideous supra, the horribly overdone and overrated z and g35c, none of them can touch that car. The only cars that come close are the RX7 and NSX.

Dodge outdid themselves on that timeless design.


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pushrod27pushrod27 - 3/12/2008 7:50:23 PM
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ARE YOU SERIOUS??? The Dodge Stealth was a clone of the Mitsubishi 3000GT.


Htay7500Htay7500 - 3/12/2008 6:19:31 PM
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