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Wicked shots of the 2008 BMW M3 from Spain- Is it the Hottest car of 2008?

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Wicked shots of the 2008 BMW M3 from Spain- Is it the Hottest car of 2008?

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SupraNeverBack - 7/9/2007 6:47:46 PM

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All the reviews come to the same conclusions:

"the steering never scores more than six out of 10 no matter where or how you drive the car. Nor do the brakes, which suffered from fade on the road and went away badly on the track. Or the fuel consumption, which was regularly down in the mid-teens on roads on which the old car would have hit well over 20mpg."

Let me tell you what IS-F will be over the sucker M3:

1. Power/Torque: 430+hp/385+lb.ft, 100+lb.ft more than M3's.
2. Steering: not act like M3's light and vague.
3. Brakes: 14.2" 6 piston calipers Brembo, not fade and suck like M3's.
4. Gas mileage: no gas guzzler tax, not gas guzzler M3's low-teems mpg.
5. Gear box: lock-up control from 2nd to 8th gears, throttle-blip for rev-matching during down shifting, virtually no gap, no lag for up-and-down shifting, not the long-throw action of M3's manual and over-sensitive clutch.
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Rupert - 7/9/2007 6:57:13 PMView My AgentSpace

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The IS-F is still an AUTOMATIC, and the C63 has the torque lock up from 2-7 as well.
430hp? Yeah right, I'm betting no more than 415.
It has a big old 5.0 litre V8 up front, not a purpose built unit like the M3 but a bigger 460 engine, and steering? What do you know about the steering that we don't? All Lexi have had light and vague steering, do you really think this will have better steering than the BMW?

You are speculating wildly on no fact at all, other than 5 litres and 400hp +.

SupraNeverBack - 7/9/2007 7:04:26 PM

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Mercedes still has some work to do. This doesn't sound like it has locke-up control from 2nd gear.

"On the early example we drove, however, the C63’s gearbox didn’t do the engine justice. Despite being reworked to provide a satisfying blip of the throttle on downshifts, it was slow to respond to upshift requests. AMG admits it needs work and says a fix is in the pipeline prior to North American sales early next year."

SupraNeverBack - 7/9/2007 7:07:15 PM

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Don't be surprised if IS-F has 450hp. It will limited by the Lexus' response power philosophy to avoid gas guzzler tax by all means.

henbmw - 7/9/2007 7:14:24 PM

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Funny you don't quote the rest of that article. Here's some highlights:

"Brakes have long been an M3 weakness, but the single caliper items fitted to the test car coped admirably with high-speed runs on the tortuous Spanish mountain roads that formed our road route."

"In many ways it is a deeply impressive car, with a huge range of abilities and very few flaws."

"And it is very, very good. This car is fast, practical, well built, comfortable and safe."

The article never bothers to mention the IS-F, they simply suggest that 'purists' wait for the CSL.

enthusiastx11 - 7/9/2007 7:50:43 PM

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get a grip. the IS-F is totally unknown quantity. lexus has never even made a performance car. let's wait to drive the thing before we decided that lexus has taken over a category that they don't currently play in.

the M3 is an icon. and this new one is beautiful. can't wait to drive it!

enthusiastx11 - 7/9/2007 8:04:52 PM

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i'd be surprised if the IS-F tops 400hp. either way, it'll likely have typical numb and lifeless lexus handling. not to mention a less-than-ideal weight distribution due to the large conventional v8 and the stretched front nose.

audirevolution - 7/9/2007 9:47:02 PM

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The IS-F will be BORING with horrid steering. No driving experience.
If Lexus matches the original M3, I will be very impressed.

Wazz - 7/10/2007 3:00:18 AM

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In reply to Ricemaster.
Toyota has the biggest budget in formula 1 and they have been there for quite a few seasons and they are not even close to the likes of Ferrari. Whereas BMW is in their 2nd season and already they are the 3rd best team and improving all the time. Just because you have the most money to spend on development, that does not mean you will create the best car.

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 7/10/2007 7:20:40 AM

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