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Will The Car Makers Pull Out Of F1?
If Formula One does not act, car manufacturers could quit and the very existence of motor sport could be under threat. That is the belief of FIA president Max Mosley, who in an interview with the newspaper Welt am Sonntag justified his tough stance on modernising the rules for the future.

Talks with the carmakers have already begun about revolutionising the rulebook for 2011, with things like biofuel-powered V6 engines on the table. The last carmaker to pull out of F1 was Ford at the end of 2004, but Mosley insisted: “We must continue to cut the costs. My experience is that if one manufacturer decides it has become too expensive, another one could also say goodbye very quickly. We have to remember that the people sitting on these companies’ executive boards are not necessarily F1 fans.

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CarboyCarboy - 5/31/2007 2:54:57 PMView My AgentSpace
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Introducing,
Al Gore and the Treehuggers!!!!!!

ROFLOL

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SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 5/31/2007 1:43:48 PM
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F1 is becoming the most boring racing in the world. After qualify finished, you already know the results.

I found NASCAR is more excited to watch.

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CarboyCarboy - 5/31/2007 3:37:23 PMView My AgentSpace
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How can you find NASCAR drivers named Billy Bob and Earl driving around in ovals all day exiting?


sewingmachinesewingmachine - 5/31/2007 7:33:00 PM
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if u wanna watch crapcar, just watch the last 5-10 laps instead of all 500


DarkOneForceDarkOneForce - 5/31/2007 2:35:56 PM
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It's unbelivable how much damage Max and Co. have done so as to "cut costs", "improve safety" and "put the driver back".

The result, the lack of mecanical grip = boredom and super expensive winglets aerodynamics_&_chassi = hierachisation increased to the max historical values.

I definately agree with bimmermike.

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Anti_BangleAnti_Bangle - 5/31/2007 5:49:45 PM
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I totally agree with this. Max and Co. had ruined F1 big time. Current F1 series could be the most technologically advanced of all, but it is also the most boring of all time.

If I were one of the manufacturers, I would definitely pull out, and concentrate the effort and resources on making better passenger cars. Look at how much money and effort Toyota had poured into its F1 team? What did Toyota get in return?? 0% result, 100% embarrassment.


chewychewy - 5/31/2007 10:29:16 PMView My AgentSpace
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Max Mosley has not done anything himself to make it better.

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TheSailorTheSailor - 6/1/2007 7:11:57 AMView My AgentSpace
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This is so idiotic! Why in the world should they employ biofuels in F1?! Why should they care about the environment at all?! They play such a small part anyway, and I really doubt that it will have any publicity effect or help promote environmental thinking anyway... It will just make people find something else to look at... What's next? Electric vehicles in WTC?! COME ON!!! Make all the fuel efficient vehicles you want and develop all the clever new technology you can, BUT DON'T TOUCH OUR MOTORSPORTS!!! They need to be dirty to be fun to watch!

Way to shoot yourself in the foot Max!!!

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silent_powersilent_power - 6/1/2007 4:29:59 PM
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"What did Toyota get in return?? 0% result, 100% embarrassment."

That' s really good for Toyota from every aspect.
They have so much money that they could buy the whole F1. But they prefer to win in F1 under "procedural kerbs".

You call it failure, they call it "vaccination".

Definitely not an advertising game for Toyota.

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TheSailorTheSailor - 6/1/2007 7:06:00 PMView My AgentSpace
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WHAT?!? You need to get a reality check! that is the biggest pile of BS I've seen in a long time! Just admit it, Toyota is doing so incredibly bad that it is basically a joke... You'll feel much better afterwards!

Also, no one, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, will spend that much money on having a mediocre team (or apparantly, somebody will)... Toyota would love to be on top, but they just can't!

BTW... "They have so much money that they could buy the whole F1"... Very cute! According to you guys, Toyota could buy the world!

definitely a complete failure for Toyota!


TheGeniusTheGenius - 6/1/2007 11:57:57 PM
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Can anyone tell me if Max, Bernie & co are serious about reducing F1 costs? In the 80s a $70 million dollar /year budget for a team was huge and there were talks about reducing costs. Then came the 90s and top teams were shelling out just over $100 Mill a year. Now big spenders are in the $200Million - 300 Mill range. Why are more races being added to the schedule which increases equipment costs, testing and other related costs? Why are some of the newer races at far flung areas of the globe that increase travel and logistics costs for the huge teams that support the drivers? The answer is simple..Bernie goes where the dollars are period! If they really wanted to cut costs, get one engine supplier, cut the number of races down, and make other changes that limit development to cars, but then we'll probably end up with boring NASCAR-like races, and I don't want that. Frankly, F1 is for big boys with dough, and I doubt if the playing field will ever favor non-factory teams with smaller pockets so lets keep it that way and cut out the biofuels eye service and other related bs!!! I've never seen an f1 expense sheet, but I have a hunch that fuel cost is a rounding error on their budgets..


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silent_powersilent_power - 6/2/2007 6:26:04 AM
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Whoo! It is Drama boyz that should get a reality check. F1 story is a win story for Toyota.
Toyota spends too little in F1 for their targets they ve set.
Definitely a scandal for your lovely companies.
I advise you should keep your worry-sensitive feelings about other F1 teams...

TheSailor wrote:
"Toyota would love to be on top, but they just can't!"
Let me correct it.
Toyota would love to be on top, but they just want to do it on their way.
Look for the answer in the years to come.

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TheSailorTheSailor - 6/2/2007 8:38:06 AMView My AgentSpace
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Can you please explain to me how not ever winning anything is a "win story"?! Because I fail to see your side of things and I'm pretty sure everybody else here does to!


silent_powersilent_power - 6/4/2007 1:55:51 PM
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I am not surprised! Besides thats the way of thinking in West.

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