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Will The New Lexus LF-A Really Be As Great As We Anticipate?

pacotacolol submitted on 12/30/2007 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 5:36 PM
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Will The New Lexus LF-A Really Be As Great As We Anticipate?

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user75 - 12/30/2007 6:12:22 PM

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The LF-A is never going to be successful

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 6:26:33 PMView My AgentSpace

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how do you know this? i am optomistic about it

SupraNeverBack - 12/30/2007 6:31:29 PM

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When you in doubt about this machine, then listen to it...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ShrOWznZbns

user75 - 12/30/2007 6:37:51 PM

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i just know. its very ugly. not american looking

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 6:38:13 PMView My AgentSpace

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uh duh. it's japanese.

user75 - 12/30/2007 7:42:09 PM

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i know

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:42:58 PMView My AgentSpace

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seems like you know every thing.

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 8:31:06 PMView My AgentSpace

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deboosted for a simple statment

CHAMATHKAR - 12/31/2007 10:14:30 AM

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Cant say that though but its evident that it will get beaten up if it is very pricey, and it cant hold much up to a gt-r if the acceleration is just under 4s , Lexus are trying too much to tune this car for max speed whereas Nissan tuned theirs for acceleration... only time can tell..Besides since this is their flagship car it will definitely be priced over $120,000...

S4cabriofoxone - 1/3/2008 1:51:17 AMView My AgentSpace

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"i just know. its very ugly. not american looking"

Huh? So now, with the new Chevy Malibu, American car design is the ruler that all other countries must measure up to?

SupraNeverBack - 12/30/2007 6:21:53 PM

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Top secret my xxx. It's out for 5years already.

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 8:52:42 PMView My AgentSpace

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what

user75 - 1/2/2008 6:06:30 PM

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thats pointless

STJ88 - 12/30/2007 6:26:37 PM

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I find it one of the best looking car in the last few years.

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CarANDdriver - 12/30/2007 6:39:23 PM

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The LF-A is very hot looking. the best looking out there.

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CarANDdriver - 12/30/2007 6:39:23 PM

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The LF-A is very hot looking. the best looking out there.

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 6:54:22 PMView My AgentSpace

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so, do you like the way i post multiple times? becuase it appears you are coping

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:02:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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well "lol" is in my name.

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:10:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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um yeah. if i owned one, i would never sit in it. i went to a spyker/ferrari/maserati/fisker dealer and saw the D12, the suv. Classic guages, fast for a 4300 pound suv. the price was a little stiff though.

i heard at the dealer that they don't sell used spykers. they call it refurbished spykers. they completely take it apart and put it back together again, only the chassis stays

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:45:17 PMView My AgentSpace

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thats my favorite part. and the gauge cluster. do you usually go to L.A. show?

CarANDdriver - 12/30/2007 8:56:04 PM

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i like spykers

pacotacolol - 12/31/2007 1:16:44 PMView My AgentSpace

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no cares what you like.

SupraNeverBack - 12/30/2007 6:54:33 PM

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Production car has no camouflage=better aerodynamic, no test equipments = lighter, aluminum replaced by carbon fiber/fiber glass plastic = even lighter, which means it will a lot faster.

What do you expect from a Super Car weights less than 2,700lbs with a 550+hp, 9000rpm engine and a lighting fast shifting F1 sequential shift gearbox and drag coefficient smaller than Prius's 0.26?




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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 6:59:29 PMView My AgentSpace

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highs: gonna be great at high speed, whatever it looks like
lows: should try to stick with a nice looking test mule; try to make little changes
vertict: the LF-A can be great car, or it can be as generic as a kia.

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enthusiastx11 - 12/30/2007 9:54:40 PM

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supra:

"Production car has no camouflage=better aerodynamic, no test equipments = lighter, aluminum replaced by carbon fiber/fiber glass plastic = even lighter, which means it will a lot faster."

prototype has no air conditioning, power windows/seats, sound system, nav system and a million other comfort and luxury features that add up to hundreds of pounds. prototype also doesn't need to meet emissions requirements. hmmm...

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CarANDdriver - 1/2/2008 6:04:50 PM

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no camo? the car is gonna wiehg aton

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:01:22 PMView My AgentSpace

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fastonekiller: which car? the Zonda F or Lexus

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 8:31:41 PMView My AgentSpace

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the wieght

CarANDdriver - 12/30/2007 8:57:14 PM

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its 2300 pounds,

pacotacolol - 12/31/2007 9:31:03 AMView My AgentSpace

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hes making that up. ill try to find the wieght

user75 - 12/30/2007 7:11:56 PM

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i hate all cars except m3 and landrovers

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:13:06 PMView My AgentSpace

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whoa! you hate all cars? what is your problem?

user75 - 12/30/2007 7:13:54 PM

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the m3 is nice and i love landrovers!

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:14:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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then why are you on autospies?

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:14:12 PMView My AgentSpace

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then why are you on autospies?

user75 - 12/30/2007 7:14:48 PM

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becuase i wanted to be apart of something.

and i like to spy before i buy

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:32:30 PMView My AgentSpace

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uh... you drive i toyota tercel wagon? i saw your photos

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 8:53:20 PMView My AgentSpace

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Is hating all cars hard?

CarANDdriver - 12/30/2007 8:56:26 PM

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you hate the corvette?

EL34 - 12/30/2007 7:39:14 PM

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I'd rather be driving a Corvette.

;-)

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:47:21 PMView My AgentSpace

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yeah... a zr1

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 8:53:59 PMView My AgentSpace

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drive a zr1 into a junkyard? you must be a retart

pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 7:55:49 PMView My AgentSpace

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they are giving the first one away to charity

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ThierryHenry14 - 12/30/2007 7:56:28 PM

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I think that this car will be great.

I can somehow picture two versions of this car, a luxury version, more like an SLR type, and a pure/raw track and sporty version, to take on the likes of the GT-R, F430 Scuderia, and GT3 RS.

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CarANDdriver - 12/31/2007 1:25:43 PM

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just like the 6 series eh?

ThierryHenry14 - 12/31/2007 5:24:43 PM

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something like that...

enthusiastx11 - 12/30/2007 8:09:53 PM

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on what NEW information is this "story" based?

let us know when we have verification that the car will be produced, specs are released and a production-ready car is tested by an INDEPENDENT source.

until then, there's nothing to do but speculate!

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pacotacolol - 12/30/2007 8:54:50 PMView My AgentSpace

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i was talking about the car. not the contents of the story

CarANDdriver - 12/30/2007 8:55:43 PM

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tell me about it

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ErichHartmann - 12/31/2007 9:21:25 AM

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The three comments above me crack me up. Pure stupidity ring a bell?

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Targa - 1/4/2008 11:11:28 AM

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It amazes me how much the lexus fan boys dismiss that which Lexus tries so hard to copy.

Not saying this is not a great car and not saying that Lexus does not make a good car, but just totally trashing the German makers makes no sense.

It is cool you have your favorite, but don't be jerks about it

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Lexus - 12/30/2007 9:09:31 PM

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I think everyone up here should wait for the official spec before making judgement on this Lexus LF-A. Almost everyone up here doubting the Nissan GT-R because it was big and only had 480hp.

And look at it actual test spec from Edmund.com The Nissan GT-R run the famous in 7:38s and do 0-60 in 3.3s or less.

I hope Lexus can back up it claim for this New Lexus LF-A. No matter what, this Lexus LF-A will be a Force to reckon with.

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enthusiastx11 - 12/30/2007 9:56:47 PM

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"this Lexus LF-A will be a Force to reckon with."

isn't that passing judgement? and what previous models has lexus produced that would lead us to believe they really understand performance cars?

ThierryHenry14 - 12/31/2007 12:22:35 PM

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hey, is this "flylow" under a new name?

ThierryHenry14 - 12/31/2007 10:12:20 PM

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we are talking US sales only, right?

enthusiastx11 - 12/31/2007 10:19:03 PM

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yes thierry. US sales only. globally the 3-series outsells the IS by more than 12x.

bmwdrvr - 12/30/2007 9:10:52 PM

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this crazy i mean seriously how many posts can you create that are pure speculation about a car that isnt even out yet....and for that matter we are having muliple messages on this car each week, that and some other lexus...does lexus own this site or something come on...lol 10 messages of speculation on an unreleased car

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EL34 - 12/30/2007 10:24:28 PM

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Hey, I saw a couple of new Chevy Malibu's today and it's a pleasant looking car.

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stash84 - 12/31/2007 9:46:03 AM

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thats funny..coming from someone that drives a 3 series lol

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KZ258 - 12/30/2007 9:47:41 PM

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"I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying." this punchline really needs to change pronto

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pacotacolol - 12/31/2007 9:04:19 AMView My AgentSpace

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got it

EL34 - 12/30/2007 10:25:49 PM

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There's one thing all of us cannot deny and that is this Lexus looks an awful lot like the new Toyota Matrix.

;-)

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Lyall - 12/31/2007 12:33:58 AM

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EL34- its already 10pm and you haven't said a single funny thing yet. Come on Dude!
On another note- a very happy 2008 to all on this blog, even Keysersoze.

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Designer1 - 12/31/2007 2:26:47 AM

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Personally I'm not that crazy about the front of the car, its basic. But I should say the most important thing in this segment is to have the right performance. As far as quality, no worries there it will definitly have the best quality, but I hope they do change the front there's realy nothing special about it, the back is unique to it though and I love it.

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JUGNU - 12/31/2007 5:16:49 AMView My AgentSpace

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pacotacolol

"Or will it be more of a copy of the R8 or just less unique and futuristic"

Could u please elaborate? What makes u bring Audi R8 into this?

LF-A concept is already there and it's 100% original (and i saw nobody ever raising the question that it looks like anything let alone R8). And the production LF-A will look like it as it will be the production version of the concept.

u guys are just........

fastonekiller

"lets wait and see what the actual specs are of the production LF-A."

yeah that's good idea. but then stand by it and don't try to prove or disprove the info.

U say Pagani has 750 BHP and did this lap time. I can show you many other sports cars with 750BHP or more but are nowhere closer to the Pagani F Clubsport lap time.

So i repeat not believing the info and waiting for the official one is good idea but then stand by your decision. Don’t try to prove it or disprove it.

On other note, if this were a german car say R8 V10, i could see u and many other german fans believing this info and try their fullest to prove it unlike here where u r trying to disprove it.

Awesome job Lexus and bring it soon.

JUGNU

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TheSailor - 12/31/2007 6:59:27 AMView My AgentSpace

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Without the weird side scoops and the catfish face, the LF-A actually looks really good... They turned down the design on the front and borrowed a pair of scoops from the Murcielago, and now it looks like a proper sports car... The first from Japan... It is going to be interesting to see if it really is as good as the rumors say... I don't believe the Nordsleife time though... Had they really done a 7:27 time around the ring, people would be aware of it and nobody in the community around track racing in europe can confirm the actual source of the rumor... At least none of the people I know...

Still, looks bloody good! Now release it already so we can get some reviews!

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Heyhuub - 12/31/2007 9:57:50 AM

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Please shut up, you're talking absolute rubbish.

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Bill - 12/31/2007 11:55:53 AM

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+1 @ Heyhuub

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ThierryHenry14 - 12/31/2007 12:21:13 PM

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haha... I needed a good laughter before lunch...

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TheSailor - 12/31/2007 1:00:53 PMView My AgentSpace

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LOL... You really believe that yourself?

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ErichHartmann - 12/31/2007 1:08:40 PM

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You slam Audi for "lack of heritage" and yet you praise Lexus?

Anyone see what I see?

Starts with an "M", ends with an "N".

Fill in the blank!

M _ _ _ N

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pacotacolol - 12/31/2007 1:21:50 PMView My AgentSpace

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whats the answer.

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user75 - 12/31/2007 1:23:12 PM

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monin?

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Htay7500 - 1/1/2008 9:50:34 AM

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hi david989.

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CarANDdriver - 12/31/2007 10:57:37 AM

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the new jaguar xf r is awesome

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pacotacolol - 12/31/2007 11:25:55 AMView My AgentSpace

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thats a little random.

Jag_xfr - 12/31/2007 12:47:39 PM

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The Jag XF is gonna be the daddy of all luxury cars!

TheSailor - 12/31/2007 1:01:46 PMView My AgentSpace

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...and I like green apples!

pacotacolol - 12/31/2007 1:08:38 PMView My AgentSpace

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@ TheSailor

+3 for that concluding comment.

LexSucks - 12/31/2007 1:08:34 PM

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Acura NSX anyone?

Its simple. Folks do not go to Japan to spend over $100,000 on A car. They go to Europe or Italy.

The sad part is that even though the Acura NSX wasn't successful (in sales) the NSX did show Ferrari and lamborghini that a Super car doesn't have to be demanding to drive. Even though the Lexus will probably fail, The Lexus will probably show the other makes a thing or two about exotic cars.

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user75 - 12/31/2007 1:12:26 PM

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the NSX is going to be the rival to the LF-A if it become a production car.

pacotacolol - 12/31/2007 1:16:14 PMView My AgentSpace

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yeah. wow. you finally said something worthwhile!

congrats on your new feat.

masaman23 - 12/31/2007 1:48:04 PMView My AgentSpace

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The LF-A is very good car. its going to do well

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SupraNeverBack - 12/31/2007 6:14:52 PM

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Zonda F what? The car that was claimed 210mph top speed but never could reach 200mph and costs what 1M dollar?


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RealitySmack - 12/31/2007 8:44:30 PM

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I don't think the weight value of 2900lbs is correct. It may be close but, I don't think it's 2900lbs. And obviously, the time is most likely correct since, it's been reported everywhere.

But, assuming it weighs 2900lbs with 550hp. Then to compare it with a Zonda, your best bet would be to look at the suspension layouts of both along with gearing and transmission set-up. And I don't mean the suspension/tranny *type*, I mean the specific *technical numbers* that go with all the suspension components and transmission. Another part to getting good *numbers* around the track is to have a good suspension and transmission. Even though it uses a DSG tranny, there still can be some modifications that Lexus might have made to get an advantage. This might explain the reported time, IF assuming the weight is 2900lbs!

But at this point, it is very hard to deduce anything concrete since we don't have any definite data on the weight/suspension set-up/tranny set-up.

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RealitySmack - 12/31/2007 9:06:44 PM

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