Will the BMW X6 kill sales of the Range Rover Sport and Infiniti FX?

The difference between the X6 and the other two is that the X6 looks like crap and isnt very practical with that back end.

— STJ88 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 5:59:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I like the "X" shape in the front, but the rear is awful. Isn't X6 suppose to be bigger than X5 per naming? If that's the case how comes the shape of rear? Could it actually be called X4?

Anyway, nothing looks better than FX. With the introduction of EX the future FX should get bigger to the size of X5. Therefore X6, from the point of look or size, won't kill FX.

— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 6:13:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Nothing can look better than FX. Best really SPORT-UV made up to now!

— OBSERVER1984 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 6:54:30 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

I drive Range Rover Sport and I am actually considering X6 as my next vehicle. However, I am still not fully satisfied with the rear end.

So far, not an Range Rover Sport killer to me.

— MrGunFun (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 7:26:36 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

I think the Range Rover sport appeals to a different market than the X6 will. Infiniti has a good following with the FX, evem in markets it is not sold people import them. The redesign should be shown soon, so everyone shall wait and see

— rok_altima (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 8:13:43 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

Are the sales of any of these vehicles noteworthy enough to be killed?

Did the X5 coming out kill the sales of other SUV's?

— rack (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 8:47:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Looks awesome from the front

— henbmw (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 9:19:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I'm considering the next-generation FX as a future vehicle, but if this were competitively-priced and offered just as much interior space I would at least look at it...

— Will_ (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2007 9:23:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

the rear looks way too low - it really destroys the look of an SAV

— Audi4Life (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 5:39:09 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Front Bumper looks like last gen Cayenne Turbo's.Ugly
Rear is horrid.

I hope this is not what the new BMW SAV look like.

JUGNU

— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 8:27:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

I think the X6 will look hot, even the back (and hey, at the moment its just photoshopped). IMO it will be a winner.

— Wazz (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 9:20:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Actually, the 7 is the Class leader there as well (numbers sold that is)

— E39Sleeper (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 10:27:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

There are a coouple of reasons the 7 is the leader. First the emerging markets factor and second its cheaper than the S CLass.
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— TauronB2G (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 2:53:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

As for sales... the Lexus LS is the class-leader; 7 Series isn't even close. But is that really how you measure excellence?

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 6:17:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Nothing is going to get killed. The X6 will not make a massacre out of the competition with sales figures.

— richardp996 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 10:30:38 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

We ll have to wait and see. From the photoshops ive seen so far, it looks hot...

— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 10:37:30 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Ever compared recent Audi and BMW prices?

— Heyhuub (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 1:19:59 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

Obviously, not.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 6:25:24 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

the FX? that thing is a porky beast that already looks dated. no style to it...just fad.

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 12:30:15 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7   

well then, i'm not one of the 'many.'

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/14/2007 6:35:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

Will the BMW X6 kill sales of the Range Rover Sport and Infiniti FX?

I don't know about the Range Rover off road, but for sure it will school the Infiniti as does the Mercedes R-Klasse skool the Datsun FX hatchback.

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 11:24:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -9   

the X6 does look hot.

and much like the FX and range rover sport it's more about looks and performance than actually hauling around lots of people and their gear.

it'll definitely compete with both very well. however, the infiniti will likely be a lot less expensive so i doubt there will be much cross shopping.

range rover sport will be core competition.

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 12:26:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

RRS and X6/FX45

These are two completely different class of vehicles.

RRS is a real offroader with hi/low-range transmission, center locking diffs and optional real locking diffs. It has cross link air-suspension for articulation. Real approach/departure angles and wading depth to ford in water. It also has real 7,700 lb towing capacity.

The X6/FX are hot-rod station wagons with AWD. Neither can go offroad except a few dirt path. Sure, they're faster on road and probably have better on-road dynamics because of their car-based unibody construction.

if the RRS did not have all that off-road hardware and did not have a body on frame truck chassis, it would have saved 800-1200 lbs off its curb weight and go very fast. However, as a Land Rover, it has to adhere to its heritage. A RRS without offroad cred is like a Ferrari with 4 doors.


Take your pick.
They tailor to different market segments.

Sure, a few will cross shop. Mostly poseurs.

— speedmaster (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 1:22:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

All have good and bad points like everything else. Consumers buy these machine for their macho look, being a very low maintance funtual soccer type vehicle is not in the picture for these kinds of buyers. These crossover look good coming and going, the new BMW will have style and that name going for it, but in the long run all three bring a flare to the table and they all will continue to do fine in the market place.

— chuck717 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 2:54:50 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The Range Rover appeals to image seekers more than the X6 will. The FX is more of a value option in the class. The X6 will slot in between them. The Rover will be more functional (off roading and interior space) the FX will most likely be sportier though less practical and the X will be right in the middle. I'm waiting to see the rear end of it though. The front grew on me more than the X5 did but I fear an Aztekian rear end. That scares me. BMW has made some off styling moves the last few years, lets see if they keep it up.
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— TauronB2G (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 2:57:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

It's certainly not going to kill anything with its looks or usefullness.

— Neverfollow (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 3:42:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Really? Please, give me facts.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 6:27:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

amazinBimmer is a clever troll. He really knows how to work the whole perceived reality quotient.

— Hyundai (View Profile)

Posted on 8/13/2007 1:36:06 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

I think this is a stupid move for BMW, one that just spells "SELL-OUT" in my mind. Not only is the X6 awkard and ungainly next to the X5, but it will probably be impractical, will guzzle gas and still won't handle like a real BMW. A shame. BMW can't be everything to everyone.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 6:29:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

No it won't. The Range Rover has a heritage that goes back to WWII. Ask this question again in another 65 years.

— johnct (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 8:18:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

CommonSense,

"And if you look at it from a practical point of view, YOUR BEYOND WRONG. You mention that the FXand X are poseur cars."

You misread what I wrote. I said the RRS vs FX45/X6 are two different class of vehicles. Only those who cross-shop the two segments are poseurs. Read it again.

RRS excels offroad and as a real S"Utility"V

X5/X6/X45 are hot-rod SAV/Station wagons with AWD.

I can tow with my RRS. I tow my FJ40 and soon to be Elise/Cayman. I can't do that with the X6/FX45.

Again, two different class of vehicles. If you want a fast wagon, get the FX/X series. I personally get a S4/RS4 Audi wagon or M5 station wagon if I wanted a fast "AWD" wagon.

— speedmaster (View Profile)

Posted on 8/12/2007 10:35:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

firstly you wouldnt compare fx to an X6. 2nd bmw owned range rover for a certain period of time. in that time they range rover had hydraulic problems and other electrical problems in there car. bmw fixed those issues, took some ideas from range rover and developed there own 4WD, then sold range rover IMO this is were bmw are better. they are able to make a better vehicle and have excelled from there. now range rover are owned by ford, and IMO range rover are going backwards from now on

— bmwpowerf1 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/13/2007 6:14:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

No match for the new RX and LX570 though. Infiniti is junk.

— david989 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/13/2007 8:27:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7   

Since when are the FX and the Range Rover Sport in the same league ?

The FX is plastic crossover competing with the Hyundai Veracruz and the Lexus RX, entry level luxo utes. The Range competes with the X5 4.8is and the Cayenne Turbo. Different dimension.

— JWalkerLegrande (View Profile)

Posted on 8/13/2007 11:28:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The X6 is a great idea the sercet to success is to offer a product that few rivals offer like the x3 or the 1 series coupe Mercedes has not had answer to the x3 for four years, the Infinti FX is the closest rival. Also BMW needs more profitable sales, the 1 series is not enough.

— Larry (View Profile)

Posted on 8/14/2007 12:24:24 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

You guys forget one thing.

The RRS has a GVWR of 6,000lbs. Section 179 write-off baby.

As CommonSense said, "By the way people who make enough money to purchase these vehicles didnt make it by being stupid."
Thank You for the compliment.

I bought my RRS because I was able to write off $34,000 the first year in taxes. This year, I will write off 11,000. It will be written off in 3 years of ownership. Then to the next thing.

This is why depreciation is not an issue for me and many people. I'll trade it in within 3 years with 40,000 miles on the clock for a fullsize RR.
If I get $35,000 then so be it. Who cares. I got my money's worth.
I'm been checking the residuals and the RRS is holding up very good. '06s are still being traded-in at 53K. Not bad!!!

And since I use it for commercial reasons, I can park in the yellow zone. I cant see how I can convince DMV that the FX and X6 are commercial vehicle with a small boot/load capacity and insignificant towing.

And yes, people do take their $40-90K SUVs offroad. Just because someone of you are 'afraid' to get it scratch, I am not. I don't go on narrow trails.
In the 10 years of SUV ownership, I've never gotten serious "trail damage" Nothing that a light detail won't fix. Some of us don't go rock crawling but we sure do go the campgrounds, desert runs, and long style expeditions which the RR is suited for.

I know the FX does not meat Section 179 GVWR rules. I doubt the X6 will either.

— speedmaster (View Profile)

Posted on 8/14/2007 7:47:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

X6 shall be launched with the most advanced predictive torque vectoring AWD system in the automotive world called Dynamic Performance Control.

— autogeek (View Profile)

Posted on 8/17/2007 11:30:50 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1