Will the Lexus LF-A tear the GT2 and GT-R to shreads?

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— Agent009 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:43:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -27   

Amazing car.

Agent 009, can you find out if next Supra benefits from LF-A in any way? A 9,000 rpm engine will be a good start.

— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 9:11:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

Wait a minute.

Remember my post of GT-R running 7:15 at Nurburgring? It's sourced from the same magazine AUTO EXPRESS.

Now, eventually GT-R runs officially at 7:38, so maybe we should add some 20 seconds to 7:24 and you'll get 7:44, which I think will be more likely for an NA RWD weighing probably at 3,500 lb(I guess).

— dlin (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 2:01:03 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

exactly dlin, auto express is worthless

— SevorbeupstryIsBack (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 1:42:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

the r8 would kill both of them!!!!! lol

— pacotacolol (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 8:01:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6   

Alright my money is still on the gt-r, though cos edmunds recorded a 0-60 time of 3.3 seconds and i think dlin is quite right, they probably ran on slicks....
Only time can tell...<<ALL HAIL THE JAPANESE SUPER CARS>>

— CHAMATHKAR (View Profile)

Posted on 12/30/2007 12:50:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

Pattycake Fight!!!!!

— Bmw8ter (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:55:14 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -4   

theres no reason for a flame war. LF-A tears a new one? why not? im down for the advancement of automotive technology.

— gsh23 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:35:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 7   

Wow this is definitely an Amazing number since this Lexus first true attempt make a Supercar. Around the famous track in 7:24s, rev to 9000rpm, Incredible.

This is truly exciting, I can't wait to see the official spec for this Lexus LF-A.

Congratulation to Lexus and their team and Yahama to.

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:36:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9   

In the future Lexus will probably come out with a Lighter and more Powerful version as well.

Lexus

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:39:17 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

Where is that time for the Porsche from? Porsche even claims that their (previous) record run was 7:32, not 7:25. Even Wikipedia has the time at 7:32.

— Ironman273 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:40:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 11   

here we go again...
more superlatives about a car that hasn't been produced yet.

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:50:02 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

This verifies what I clocked at the Nurburgring 4 1/2 months ago as I posted on this site. I'm employed as an auto engineer with a competing company and 4 of us were at the track when this Lexus/Toyota(?) was testing. As I posted in August the times we recorded the LF-A in several sectors of the track were the fastest all of us had ever witnessed. We knew it was a high-powered V10, but what really surprised us was the incredible handling in fast bends. I stated at the time it was faster than the Porsche GT3 RS, but from today's report it seems it's faster than even the Porsche GT2. I am impressed!

— BMW995 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:50:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 9   

Just look at that styling - it looks like a big silver cat fish.

I could never drive a car that looks like that.

I didn't say space ship, I said cat fish!

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:51:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -18   

Still not a fan of the design. However, that engine sounds quite impressive. But I think they should have tried to see what they could do all Toyota/Lexus rather then get help from outside.

— Czelinski (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 1:52:34 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -12   

Czelinski,

stop making execuse, the same can be said to MB AMG, BMB M, and Audi S/RS. Just admitted, if this rumor is true, the German just got their azz beat again by the Japanese. First the Nissan GT-R embrass them and now this Lexus LF-A. And don't worry the Honda NSX will soon join them, so is the Toyota Supra.

This Lexus LF-A is going to embrass all the German supercar, and make them look like a VW Bettle ;-)

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 2:00:04 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Absolutely POINTLESS to even speculate at this time as NO OFFICIAL performance numbers currently exist for the LF-A.

Note: As I stated before, almost any thread topic that contains a Question Mark is little more than a Flame War Ignition Switch.

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 2:06:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 8   

These are unofficial results ... anyone can claim a figure as estimated, but until they can be verified then they do not exist. It " should hit 210 mph " ... What can it actually do? Until the car actually is able to provide " Official Figures " all of this info is heresay. What is the point, except to start a flame war? what a stupid article

— BMW4me4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 2:09:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Lexus should change the name to the GTA so it goes good with the GT2 and the GTR.

;-)

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 2:20:29 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -13   

Enzo Ferrari was a lover, not a robot designer, and if I wanted a robot I would take the auto pilot system in the Boeing 777.

lol

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 2:54:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

Everyone knows the sexy Euro women at the auto shows are the sexiest.

Ferrari's are sexy and Lexus' look like shrimps.

:-)

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 3:24:06 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -9   

flylow, I've been all over Europe.

I've been to Spain, Portugal, France, Monte Carlo and England.

I've been to Singapore and all I remember is, if you walk on any grass in public you could be arrested and cained.

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 3:41:42 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Lexus #1? what planet are you living on? I swear! Fanboys are ruining the internet.

— LexSucks (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 3:42:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

your screen name is LEXSUCKS?
cmon..how could you hate a particular brand?

You are the true fanboy..its obvious before you start writing

— stash84 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 7:43:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 4   

more cow bell? i don't follow...elaborate please.

— r15mohd (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 3:09:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

This Lexus looks like a cowbell ;)

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 3:24:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -8   

The 'Cow Bell' is a reference to a B.O.C. skit performed by Will Farrell on SNL.

It was really hilarious...

Now: Back On Topic.

— DaHarder (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 6:59:57 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

The Lexus smashes the lap record as well as getting hit by every branch on the ugly tree. Still the Japanese auto makers are upping the ante'and only good things can come from this. Can't wait for the German and US response.

How will Tata respond??? hehe

— Porschinator (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 3:35:22 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

Not to take anything away form this beauty but it's not in production yet!!!!!!! Let's wait and see how the final production version performs!!!This is still a ordinary street legal production sports car and not a true race car. When it comes to true performance and racing technology Toyota has been struggling as of late like in F1.

— 1000rrRider (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 4:00:49 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Just like the LS600, when every toyboy talking about its going to be in the RR and the Bentley level, but lost to a regluar A8. Now they put this in the Enzo level.

— 528i (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 4:03:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

whats the GTB's Top end speed? 330? Thats the GT2's top speed. So why does it rule of the GT2, but not the 599? Lexus wants 350, but can only get about 335... The GTR does about 310, so it may be a little outclassed in terms of top speed, so thats a valid arguement.

Either way, its different target audiences...

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 10:08:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

There is Nothing wrong with having Yahama to help them built the Lexus IS-F and Lexus LF-A.

Toyota/Lexus own them don't they? Why waste time and spend more money on a technology that you already have?

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 4:14:07 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

That what Lexus is aiming at, the Lambo, Ferrari, and Aston Martin buyer.

Lexus

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 4:15:33 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

This Flylow character sounds like an idiot. I'm sorry, but putting down Ferrari and Renault?

Ferrari and Renault both have a very successful Formula 1 history. They also have produced very innovative cars with global appeal. You can slam Renault, Citroen and Peugeot all you want, but the fact remains that the French have equally contributed a great share of innovations and technology to the automotive world - moreso than Toyota, which simply build affordable and reliable cars but never even ventured into daring designs or technology.

And WRC is not "true racing" as you defined it. WRC is about strategy, endurance and handling mainly. Speed is not really of importance. Heck, a 1950s Mercedes 190D (Diesel) won the South Africa Rally in the late 1950s beating out faster competitors. "True racing", as is generally considered by the purists, pertains to Formula 1, Le Mans, Mille Miglia, Carrera Panamericana etc.

Toyota hasn't done well in any of these. They have not even participated in them with the exception of F1 and Le Mans. Lexus? What motorsport heritage does Lexus have? None.

— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 6:20:18 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

I don't even want to get into arguements with people who knows nothing about motorsports...

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 10:12:15 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

haha... POrsche in F1? they won their titles back in the 80s and left, but the key is, they WON titles...

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/31/2007 12:30:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

How long has Honda and Toyota/Lexus been racing in Le mans or F1 compare to the German brand?

Don't worry they will catch up with the European in Le Mans or F1 soon. You cannot be #1 forever. No knew that Buggati Veyron was going to outgun and blow every supercars in Market before it came out.

— Lexus (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 4:49:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Its funny how everyone here fell for such useless headlines...

Seriously guys, its a good way to get hits on the website. If its unofficial, it means nothing. It is what it is, and when it comes out into production version, we'll see what it does or doesnt do. enough said.

But to you guys fall for the flame war tricks every time.

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 5:10:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

If Yamaha built the engine does that mean you could drive in the car pool lane because this Lexus is half motorcycle?

:-)

— EL34 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 5:20:12 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -3   

Lexus has stated from the beginning that the LF-A concept was aimed at taking on the likes of Ferrari and Aston Martin GT luxury coupes. It's the SLR of the Lexus range. Of course the Lexus-hating press will pit it against the Hyundai Genesis coupe and claim the Hyundai the winner based on price...

— Anthony (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 5:33:40 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

Both Lexus fans and German car fans suck! There! I summed it all up for everyone. That appears to be the moral of the story judging by the posts here. Geez. Calm the f down and please all bring your car preferece bias down juuuuuust a notch.

Thanks!

— 0to60 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 5:34:20 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

flylow.

sad that you need to resort to childish namecalling rather than engaging in debate...

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 2:49:33 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

and sure, wealthy people buy lexuses. wealthy people who don't care about cars and just want a reliable, comfortable people mover. not those who LOVE cars.

you do realize people of similar means can have different priorities right?

— enthusiastx11 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 2:51:53 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Curious to see how the new Z06 and forthcoming NSX will do around the ring? LF-A looks like stretched 350Z... I'll take a GT-R purely based on looks. Impressive UNOFFICIAL stats never the less.

— LJB27 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 7:22:08 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2   

Okay, IMO... scrap the LF-A... put a toyota badge on it and call it the Supra. :) It'll sell like hotcakes!

— jman93 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 7:32:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1   

I have to give my vote to the GT-R. Nothing seems to be able to touch this machine!!

— PerformanceGuy (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 7:41:13 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

IF this time is true (which I doubt), then expect it to be slower once they put in all the electronics and luxuries that they will obviously put in.
I'm speculating (as is everyone as we know nothing about this car) that it didn't have proper seats, airbags, safety stuff, carpets, sound/heat insulation and all the electronic fripperies that we have come to expect.
I expect the real LF-A to have perhaps a bit less hp (500-520) rev to about 8500 (still pretty good), and not be quite as fast as this.

One thing confuses me - where will this car fit? Surely it makes more sense to walk before they run and position it as at the most a 911 turbo fighter?? Isn't an Enzo/Lambo-fighter a bit of a grand start?? Would people pay that much for a Lexus? It seems to me that they have gotten ahead of themselves...

— Rupert (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 8:43:58 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

^^^ I think what he's trying to point out is the distribution of the company. You can't argue with him by pointing out the distribution of the race of people within a company!

By that logic you can also argue about the design of Aston Martin's V8 Vantage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_V8_Vantage_%282005%29

— RealitySmack (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 10:11:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

1. What constitutes a true factory team, as opposed to a "false" factory team?

2. If Toyota is indeed, in your words, a true factory team, that would make it even more pathetic, would it not? Having factory resource but not doing anything.

I just want you to think about that... I'm not knocking on Toyota, I'm just saying that your comments make Toyota look bad.

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 12:40:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Certain cars deserve eternal respect. Skyline, Supra, E46 M3, E39 M5, Porsche 911 Turbo (I like it better than the GTs), STi, Evo because they gave you the most from the little they had (none of these were huge displacement engines except the M5).

It's nice the LF-A beat the rest, but I was expecting it to beat the time by like 10 seconds atleast (to be impressed).

Midengine,
Maybe the Fuhrer couldn't afford them (nice accidental typo btw). You did notice that the same guy fills 3 jobs right? Anyway, do you know what a Director does? They say yes or no after the real engineers make the car (their only real input is "make it go faster" or "use less fuel"), and even after that, Toyota says yes or no.

I wonder how many Germans were on the LF-A development team?

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 10:02:35 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

a mule is not the same as a car that you can buy

this time is irrelevant

— chewy (View Profile)

Posted on 12/28/2007 10:05:09 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

As always, we have the usual suspects hating. When there's news about the R8 or any European supercar all the haters have nothing to say but praise. When the GT-R or LF-A is mentioned they all come out in droves saying the same pointless and ignorant comments, trying to downplay other companies' achievements. It takes a small person...

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 12:37:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 5   

I forgot the Honda NSX from my list. Oops. And yes, if I a momentary lapse in judgement and forked over $60K plus on a car, I'd badge it back to a Honda.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 1:52:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

And your point is? Do you hear me knocking Porsche? Crazy...

You must still be pissed at me for proving your wrong in one of the other forums.

— huu76 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 3:11:19 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Very nice numbers, hopefully they're all correct. It would be nice to have more news on the Acura NSX and see how competative that one will be, and also on the new Supra IF there is one anyways.

Great job Lexus.

— Designer1 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 5:12:27 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Impressive, indeed! But let's just wait for the official numbers.

— AUTO_UNION (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 5:29:40 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

"It revs to 9,000rpm and pumps out 552bhp. Combined with a highly aerodynamic body, it should enable the LF-A to hit 210mph"

(so it won't be hard to imagine that) all these will make it ATLEAST 1 second faster to 0-60 than the IS-F. That's 3.2 second which makes LF-A quicker than the GT-R (3.3sec till now).

Plus a design which is better than the GTR with Lexus lever of Interiors and quality.

Awesome job Lexus.

JUGNU

— JUGNU (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 7:04:38 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3   

The two should be compared on performance only.The nissan is a cheap car with alot of power,it will not have the refinement.

— autopro (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 10:19:10 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

The car was not homologated at the moment, isn't it? I'm not sure that the final vehicle with emission controls can do it. Let's wait for the final serial model, I have doubt of the performance. It happened lot of case that the prototypes performance is outstanding, but the final model with catalyc converters, with comfort equipments (airco, audio, power seats...) performance was far away from the ideal.

— deepwater (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 11:39:10 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

Flylow, you still have not replied to my arguments. Guess you need some time looking up things on Wikipedia. Good luck and take your time!

— Bill (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 12:03:44 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0   

The LFA is just going to be way more expensive than the GTR or probably even the 991 GT2. I think i will like the GTR the best, even if the LFA beats it's record, because GTR is buyable (within a good pricing range), whereas the LFA - i can just look at it, but can never buy it - and something that is within my reach lights up my sense of excitement more than something that i can not get. And besides The GTR is a dream machine, only if i can round up enough money for a good downpayment.

— farabira1 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/29/2007 2:36:18 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

yea, just look for the stupid comments... actually, on this site, look for the extra stupid comments... hehe

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/30/2007 12:15:05 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Everyone give yourself a pat on the back! This post reached 246 comments! You rock guys!

— M53R (View Profile)

Posted on 12/30/2007 8:54:37 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

great lexus is on par with mercedes amg

— c36amg (View Profile)

Posted on 12/30/2007 2:34:32 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Wow, 250 posts almost. Late for the party because I have to work hard to save money for this baby. :)But most likely I can only settle for a GT-R.

I knew it will the fastest. After throwing those test equipments away, I bet it could be even faster. Lexus basically tries to bring out street legal F1 machine with its signature reliability and luxury.

More anticipated is the green hybrid super car.

— SupraNeverBack (View Profile)

Posted on 12/30/2007 6:29:11 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I bet this V10 capable of 9,000 RPM will sound very nice!! I can't wait to hear it.

— LexusLion (View Profile)

Posted on 12/30/2007 7:46:19 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

Hey, Lexus Admirer, can you please respond to some of my posts about Porsche in F1?

— ThierryHenry14 (View Profile)

Posted on 12/31/2007 5:40:27 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2   

255!!!

— silver1 (View Profile)

Posted on 1/1/2008 6:30:10 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

What is the point of the title of this article?

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 1/3/2008 1:57:43 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

What part of the ring did they cut off this time?

— 993Turbo (View Profile)

Posted on 1/4/2008 8:23:13 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1   

I thought the Zonda F had the fastest standing ring time.

— 993Turbo (View Profile)

Posted on 1/4/2008 8:27:53 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1